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post Oct 10 2016, 00:11
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QUOTE(jackalo @ Oct 9 2016, 23:46) *

mkay it bust be bugged then. 60x60 = 3600 x (max t/s 4) = 14400 total turns

is there anyway for me to get the display correctly cause it tends to regularly show over 4 t/s when doing hellfest or any kind of long arena.


What do you have installed?
My guess is that you may have two scripts installed and they are writing two times for every turn.
This would explain why your t/s is nearly double the max one.

But probably it's better to move this discussion in the Scripts thread.

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post Oct 10 2016, 00:17
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15, 25, 35, 45, 55, 65, 75, 85, 95, 100.

actually 100 is quite bad. 5 bindings wasted and little to no improvement if compared to 95, without even counting all the funds needed to get there. only a status symbol.

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extra question, would fusrodah be better for hellfest instead of godslayer and OFC ?

never did it, but based on IWs i guess you may not even need too many skills for Hell difficulty, so just pick the Godslayer's bonus attack.

QUOTE(redphil @ Oct 9 2016, 23:47) *

Search for the thread in my signature's quote of the month.

It explains indirectly what's going on with HatH and GPs.

It may be there to stay if no HatH perks are added.

a tl;dr please? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Oct 10 2016, 00:11) *

What do you have installed?
My guess is that you may have two scripts installed and they are writing two times for every turn.
This would explain why your t/s is nearly double the max one.

But probably it's better to move this discussion in the Scripts thread.

something like Round Counter Plus and Reloader's Counter option enabled at once, perhaps?
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post Oct 10 2016, 01:09
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you, sir, are playing wrong in some way. mind if i ask you what do you usually do?
DW style with Rapier + Waki and Shades, and then? what do you usually cast, for example?
I'm pretty sure it's the Arcanist that's the problem. Wasted suffix.
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post Oct 10 2016, 01:39
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I'm pretty sure it's the Arcanist that's the problem. Wasted suffix.

even if it was, the only reason i can think for him to struggle at hard difficulty with DW Shade is to play without abilities and with broken gears.
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post Oct 10 2016, 03:28
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Somehow I beat the odds and won the 2 handed peerless weapon lotto even though I only had a 2% chance.
Question: Should I keep using my older DW magnificent weapons until they wear out/I level up making them obsolete anyway?

Also, I accidentally sold a level 26 magnificent staff to the item bazaar. Do you think no one grabbed it? Should I have tried to sell it on the forum?
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post Oct 10 2016, 03:49
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QUOTE(sensualaoi @ Oct 10 2016, 01:28) *
Somehow I beat the odds and won the 2 handed peerless weapon lotto even though I only had a 2% chance.
Question: Should I keep using my older DW magnificent weapons until they wear out/I level up making them obsolete anyway?

Also, I accidentally sold a level 26 magnificent staff to the item bazaar. Do you think no one grabbed it? Should I have tried to sell it on the forum?
At level 73, I don't think anything matters much, but a Peerless is a moderate upgrade from a Legendary, which is a huge upgrade from a Mag, so sure, go with the Peerless. It's already soulfused, after all.
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Also, I accidentally sold a level 26 magnificent staff to the item bazaar. Do you think no one grabbed it? Should I have tried to sell it on the forum?
Depends what type it was. If it was good (matching attributes) then you might have been able to sell it for 100k-200k or so.

That said, never bazaar staves (or shields or cloth) - salvage them instead, due to the value of high-grade mats.
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post Oct 10 2016, 05:54
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2 3 The effect Spark of Life was dispelled.
2 2 You gain the effect Spark of Life.
2 1 You use Scroll of Life.
1 3 The effect Absorbing Ward was dispelled.
1 2 You gain the effect Absorbing Ward.
1 1 You use Scroll of Absorption.

and the scroll icons still appear but can not trigger (I died but SoL didn't trigger). What's happened?

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post Oct 10 2016, 05:55
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Hi when can i finish random encounters on IWBTH? I can finish on nintendo difficulty if i use a lots of potions. What is the best difficulty for leveling up, Arenas or grindfest? Anything I should change on my dw light build? I can still reset everything once. Usually i use all buffs i have at the start of the battles (regen,protect+fireshield, shadowdance, haste and if i get a lucky channeling heartseeker) and autoattack to victory, but sometimes i get killed instantly before buffs on Nintendo+ . I try to save the SP for SoL so i dont use spirit form often.
Thank you for your help.


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post Oct 10 2016, 06:37
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Hi when can i finish random encounters on IWBTH? I can finish on nintendo difficulty if i use a lots of potions. What is the best difficulty for leveling up, Arenas or grindfest? Anything I should change on my dw light build? I can still reset everything once. Usually i use all buffs i have at the start of the battles (regen,protect+fireshield, shadowdance, haste and if i get a lucky channeling heartseeker) and autoattack to victory, but sometimes i get killed instantly before buffs on Nintendo+ . I try to save the SP for SoL so i dont use spirit form often.
Thank you for your help.
The more you level up, the more your innate toughness from abilities and level scaling. But another problem is that, starting around level 150 and becoming quite obvious past level 170, is that monster PL starts increasing at an exponential rate instead of at a linear rate, until you reach the PL cap. But your level scaling keeps increasing indefinitely; assuming you follow the path of least resistance (1h + light), a player could probably handle IWBTH RE by 250 or so.

Cast Spark first so you don't get killed first.

Use Spirit Stance as much as you can; past very low levels, the SP drain is completely insignificant, and well worth the greatly increased damage.
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post Oct 10 2016, 07:16
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This is my current shield
Superior Kite Shield of Protection

shield with the highest block in my inventory so far
Superior Force Shield of Dampening

Would it be worth the mats + IW time for any of these? or would it be better if I just buy a soulfuse worthy legendary kite/force shield. I'll be buying a forged+IW'd mag rapier so I thought about upgrading my shield too.

Or should I prioritize IW on armour first? I have 3 power stuff equipped so I only have 2 (exq leathers) out of 5 upgraded. I think those actuators are expensive so I doubt I'll be upgrading my power armours.... which means my only choice is IW
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post Oct 10 2016, 07:24
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This is my current shield
Superior Kite Shield of Protection

shield with the highest block in my inventory so far
Superior Force Shield of Dampening

Would it be worth the mats + IW time for any of these? or would it be better if I just buy a soulfuse worthy legendary kite/force shield. I'll be buying a forged+IW'd mag rapier so I thought about upgrading my shield too.
IW isn't worth it for something you're going to use for only a handful of levels, especially if a shield (no Juggernaut = near no benefit), especially if Superior.
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or would it be better if I just buy a soulfuse worthy legendary kite/force shield.
Better by far, if you can manage to find one.
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Or should I prioritize IW on armour first? I have 3 power stuff equipped so I only have 2 (exq leathers) out of 5 upgraded. I think those actuators are expensive so I doubt I'll be upgrading my power armours.... which means my only choice is IW
Uh. Do you mean you're using 3 Power Armor and 2 Leather Armor?
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post Oct 10 2016, 07:25
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QUOTE(bigjoeardamax @ Oct 10 2016, 05:55) *

Hi when can i finish random encounters on IWBTH?



QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Oct 10 2016, 06:37) *

assuming you follow the path of least resistance (1h + light), a player could probably handle IWBTH RE by 250 or so.



In my experience, RE PFUDOR is possible at lv250 or so, as soon as you have OFC. Because RE is only 1 round, you get maximum effect of the Cannon. you just have to survive long enough to build up OC to 210, go Spirit, and fire OFC.
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post Oct 10 2016, 08:20
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@jackalo

That quite good clear time despite you don't have very high ADB (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

6t/s ~ most likely this come from your scripts error like sapo said above (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I have this error before with oldest version crackingcast & reloader 1.3.3b ~ make me get 5.5t/s but I feel slower in term of clearing time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

what scripts that you use now ???


For PF DwD with 1H , I think the best that we can get is around 4100 or 4200 turns (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
maybe (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Since blackjac00 can clear it around 4300 turns with 13k+ ADB , max damage perk and OFC perk , so I think it's close enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


if you have 4t/s ~ that around 17mins clear time for PF DwD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
if you can reach 4200 turns (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

btw , for late rounds DwD with 1H , you can clear it with 50~60 turns ( after OFC cooldown is over ) with high ADB ( 11,5K above + at least DD perk ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


well , in the end we can always ask ssss2 or amiya who have 14k+ ADB and max damage perk for total turns in PF DwD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)



Yup , PF DwD isn't worthy now at least since 2016 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I got 2 peerless , bunch of good / auctioable leg in 2015 but very rare to see leg clear bonus since 2016 from PF DwD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)



After change into dark mage , I'm playing DwD in nintendo now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Oct 10 2016, 08:41
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Oct 10 2016, 13:24) *

IW isn't worth it for something you're going to use for only a handful of levels, especially if a shield (no Juggernaut = near no benefit), especially if Superior.

Okay
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Better by far, if you can manage to find one.

Indeed (._. ) Looks like I should wait until lvl 300 or something for that.
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Uh. Do you mean you're using 3 Power Armor and 2 Leather Armor?

Yea, guess my wording was confusing.

Looks like my only other option is to keep increasing those drop chance levels. Just got past the 1/4th mark on scav, lotd and archeology

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post Oct 10 2016, 09:33
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QUOTE(bigjoeardamax @ Oct 10 2016, 05:55) *

Edit: Swear i attached the pics.

You have to embed the image to the post.
If you just press "Add this Attachment" the image is not inserted.

QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 10 2016, 08:20) *

For PF DwD with 1H , I think the best that we can get is around 4100 or 4200 turns (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
maybe (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Since blackjac00 can clear it around 4300 turns with 13k+ ADB , max damage perk and OFC perk , so I think it's close enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
if you have 4t/s ~ that around 17mins clear time for PF DwD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
if you can reach 4200 turns (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

4100-4200 with or without imperil?
It seems a bit low without imperil (but it may actually be possible with OFC perk is you can oneshot SGs with 3 PA applied).
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post Oct 10 2016, 09:51
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You have to embed the image to the post.
If you just press "Add this Attachment" the image is not inserted.
4100-4200 with or without imperil?
It seems a bit low without imperil (but it may actually be possible with OFC perk is you can oneshot SGs with 3 PA applied).

with imperil especially in early rounds with 3 mobs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

from my own experience with 1H ( nearly 12,6k ADB plus 20% damage perk ) , imperil run is always faster than non imperil run in PF SG arenas (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Coz I maybe need PAx2 to reach imperil effect on enemy defense plus sometime PA is hard to trigger at some annoying very high chaos mob (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

With imperil , my usual PF DwD is around 4600 ~ 4700 turns depend on how much critical hit (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

without imperil is around 200 more turns for me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


well , just ask sssss2 with his 1H set , how much turns that he need for PF DwD with imperil and non imperil (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Oct 10 2016, 15:17
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QUOTE(IshimaruShun @ Oct 10 2016, 06:41) *
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Uh. Do you mean you're using 3 Power Armor and 2 Leather Armor?
Yea, guess my wording was confusing.
Wording wasn't exactly confusing, it's just not the sort of thing one would generally expect someone like you to do, hence the question.

Always only ever use one type of the three types of armor: cloth, light, or heavy. That way you can gain the (significant) bonuses from proficiency.

Depending on your funds and RE => fragment frequency, I'd expect you to be able to start to get L Power Slaughter (fully permanent gear) maybe around level 330, soulfusing gear down from level 370 or something like that. What you're looking at in the meantime is probably 2 or 3 somewhat-temporary gears that'll probably last you 40 or so levels until you replace it due to stat degradation. On the low chance you already have a 0.82+ Legendary Power soulfused, that'll last you longer, and it'd be a different story - but otherwise, whatever your armor, it's pretty likely to not be worth investing a good number of shards in order to get an acceptable IW. Non-soulfused stuff won't last long enough, and you should generally hold off on soulfusing until the 300s when quality gear starts becoming generally available.
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post Oct 10 2016, 16:46
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Oct 10 2016, 21:17) *

Wording wasn't exactly confusing, it's just not the sort of thing one would generally expect someone like you to do, hence the question.

Always only ever use one type of the three types of armor: cloth, light, or heavy. That way you can gain the (significant) bonuses from proficiency.

:facepalm: My mistake, I meant plate. Must've thought of leather from reading leggings. Sorry bout that
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Depending on your funds and RE => fragment frequency, I'd expect you to be able to start to get L Power Slaughter (fully permanent gear) maybe around level 330, soulfusing gear down from level 370 or something like that. What you're looking at in the meantime is probably 2 or 3 somewhat-temporary gears that'll probably last you 40 or so levels until you replace it due to stat degradation. On the low chance you already have a 0.82+ Legendary Power soulfused, that'll last you longer, and it'd be a different story - but otherwise, whatever your armor, it's pretty likely to not be worth investing a good number of shards in order to get an acceptable IW. Non-soulfused stuff won't last long enough, and you should generally hold off on soulfusing until the 300s when quality gear starts becoming generally available.

So no need to do IW for now? My new weap finally made nightmare easy but I dunno what's the acceptable amount of defenses to survive hell. Gonna test tomorrow once arena cd refreshes. So far i have
66% phs mitigation, 60% mag mitigation, 30.8% block, 33.3% parry and finally reached 10k hp \o/
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post Oct 10 2016, 17:08
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:facepalm: My mistake, I meant plate. Must've thought of leather from reading leggings. Sorry bout that

So no need to do IW for now? My new weap finally made nightmare easy but I dunno what's the acceptable amount of defenses to survive hell. Gonna test tomorrow once arena cd refreshes. So far i have
66% phs mitigation, 60% mag mitigation, 30.8% block, 33.3% parry and finally reached 10k hp \o/
It's not so much that there's "no need", but that the benefit of IW (more HP for a handful of levels) is likely not worth the cost of IW (long, low-profit battle series, plus expensive amnesia shards). Probably just keep building up fragments and replacing outdated gears every now and then, until you see something worth using for a very long time.
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post Oct 10 2016, 17:17
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I was just curious, how many entries/tickets should I buy to have a fair chance at winning the lottery? I'd like to know how many tickets Jenga buys, since he wins almost every single time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

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