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I recently switched from dw/light to 1h/heavy i just got this thing to drop, is it worth using for at least the short term, since it seems extremely hard to find a good low level rapier of slaughter? Or is it actually worth spending a little time item world on it and some basic forging? Or do I go for option 3 which is what I've been doing, just keep hoping someone sends a low level worthwhile rapier to slaughter to auction for a price I can actually afford? For reference I've been stuck with this club as a 1h weapon.


Exquisite Ethereal Club of Slaughter

Legendary Fiery Shortsword of Slaughter

The shortsword is a lot better than the club.
Cheaply forge the physical damage to 5 (disregard the rest, it's not worth it) and use it until you can find a good mag/legendary rapier (ideally before level 300 since you will be increasing the difficulty and the high HPs of IWBTH/PFUDOR really make the rapier shine).

You also need IW10 since it's not ethereal.

This post has been edited by Sapo84: Sep 24 2016, 02:52

nvm, already done.

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Peerless Agile Leather Leggings of Protection

Woohoo, my first Peerless! ...Now what do I do with it? Other than being Peerless, it looks not all that great?

forgive english and literacy im a south east asian troll this is very hard for me

please help im a pure beginner to hentaiverse
i've been really careful on ring of blood challenges, setting the game to normal, buying a bunch of scrolls and potions. but i'm sure i'm missing a lot( i almost died instantly fighting early legendary bosses at 25000 credit reward levels at normal mode) and im sure i'm not doing it right so
could someone give me some advice on how to get ready to fight flying spaghetti monster and how difficult is it really and how did you guys got over it because blood tokens are so hard for me to get it would be waste if cant finish the challenge for shit im kindly asking also those who had experience fighting the spaghetti challenge too

and also it wrong to ask specific questions like these here, if so please tell me where should i ask
thank you

forgive english and literacy im a south east asian troll this is very hard for me

please help im a pure beginner to hentaiverse
i've been really careful on ring of blood challenges, setting the game to normal, buying a bunch of scrolls and potions. but i'm sure i'm missing a lot( i almost died instantly fighting early legendary bosses at 25000 credit reward levels at normal mode) and im sure i'm not doing it right so
could someone give me some advice on how to get ready to fight flying spaghetti monster and how difficult is it really and how did you guys got over it because blood tokens are so hard for me to get it would be waste if cant finish the challenge for shit im kindly asking also those who had experience fighting the spaghetti challenge too

and also it wrong to ask specific questions like these here, if so please tell me where should i ask
thank you

Low-level, FSM is difficult because SP attack can oneshot you. Best to keep it from using the attack somehow - probably with Silence. (You'll need to grind some Depreciating proficiency) Sleep doesn't work well because attacks wake it up. Stun doesn't work so well because it can't be refreshed without the monster attacking at least once in between.

Also use a rapier so the fight doesn't take forever, and bring spirit potions and spirit elixirs just in case you get Sparked multiple times, which is not unlikely.

You could also just play on Normal. Damage will be low, but all that really matters is the first clear bonus and the noodly, neither of which depend on difficulty.

Woohoo, my first Peerless! ...Now what do I do with it? Other than being Peerless, it looks not all that great?

Keep it or auction it. Somewhat good for leather, but leather itself is cheap and useless.

On DW, is playing with 2 good quality rapiers better than a good quality rap/wak setup?

Hypothetical -> legendary on all, and all weapons being either ethereal/slaughter or hallowed/slaughter, and IW10.

Also assuming goal is quickest destruction of monsters to get through rounds in record time.

This post has been edited by redphil: Sep 25 2016, 01:29

On DW, is playing with 2 good quality rapiers better than a good quality rap/wak setup?

Hypothetical -> legendary on all, and all weapons being either ethereal/slaughter or hallowed/slaughter, and IW10.

Also assuming goal is quickest destruction of monsters to get through rounds in record time.

nope. the big deal is having PA effect. redundant PA weapons is sub-optimal since PA chance is added multiplicatively as well - better boost something else at this point, like ADB, Crit, Parry... whatever

Low-level, FSM is difficult because SP attack can oneshot you. Best to keep it from using the attack somehow - probably with Silence. (You'll need to grind some Depreciating proficiency) Sleep doesn't work well because attacks wake it up. Stun doesn't work so well because it can't be refreshed without the monster attacking at least once in between.

Also use a rapier so the fight doesn't take forever, and bring spirit potions and spirit elixirs just in case you get Sparked multiple times, which is not unlikely.

You could also just play on Normal. Damage will be low, but all that really matters is the first clear bonus and the noodly, neither of which depend on difficulty.

ty for reply thats a lot of info

i currently have no depreciating skill proficiency at all (0.27) ok so im gonna grindfest
spaghetti's sidekicks aren't that strong right?that mikuyuki or something so i don't really have to worry about them onehitting me so i just have to silence spaghetti then finish his sidekicks first is that ok?

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nope. the big deal is having PA effect. redundant PA weapons is sub-optimal since PA chance is added multiplicatively as well - better boost something else at this point, like ADB, Crit, Parry... whatever

Cool.. ok. So Waki is best with Rap? (Mainhand Rapier, Offhand Wakizashi or opposite?)

i currently have no depreciating skill proficiency at all (0.27) ok so im gonna grindfestty

Crude IW + Spellspam is much easier for grinding proficiency.

spaghetti's sidekicks aren't that strong right?that mikuyuki or something so i don't really have to worry about them onehitting me so i just have to silence spaghetti then finish his sidekicks first is that ok?

FSM spawns with the 3 stronger schoolgirls, the ones that come earlier in Ring of Blood. Like FSM, their normal attacks are pathetic, but their SP attacks hurt a lot for a low level player, on high difficulty at least. They're not super dangerous, but you can't be careless. Use Spirit Shield. Leather armor will help too, that way you Resist a lot more (you should probably be using Leather anyway come level ~200).

You can tank the SGs attacks, but the FSM's SP attack is so much stronger, so FSM needs to be silenced or something.

Remember, you can't even fight FSM until level 200. (But noodlies are worth 30k-something, and the first clear bonus is very nice)

Regardless, if you play on low difficulty and have potions and elixirs in your battle items, it should be quite easy, you probably wouldn't even need Silence if you have Spirit Shield.

Cool.. ok. So Waki is best with Rap? (Mainhand Rapier, Offhand Wakizashi or opposite?)

If rapier is mainhand, then offhand is best as waki.

Offhand has ADB nerf, so you want the higher damage weapon in mainhand and lower damage weapon in offhand. Offhand also has parry buff, so you want the higher parry weapon in offhand and the other weapon in mainhand. Both of these point to mainhand rapier and offhand waki - if using a rapier and a waki is already decided.

This post has been edited by Superlatanium: Sep 25 2016, 02:45

If rapier is mainhand, then offhand is best as waki.

Offhand has ADB nerf, so you want the higher damage weapon in mainhand and lower damage weapon in offhand. Offhand also has parry buff, so you want the higher parry weapon in offhand and the other weapon in mainhand. Both of these point to mainhand rapier and offhand waki - if using a rapier and a waki is already decided.

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Is there some 'cheap' crafting or upgrades that I should've been doing with my crappy self found gear like how in some MMOs you can upgrade your leveling gear to +4 until you get to the level where you find equipment you can +10 or something.

If not, at what level should I start browsing through the player shops for Mag+ to start with forging/IW?

Is there some 'cheap' crafting or upgrades that I should've been doing with my crappy self found gear like how in some MMOs you can upgrade your leveling gear to +4 until you get to the level where you find equipment you can +10 or something.

Sure, for gears that don't require expensive special materials to forge, I'd say always forge everything to at least 5. It's not expensive and provides a very significant percentage increase over the base stats. Probably don't upgrade past 5 though unless you're rich, or unless the gear is a keeper (soulfusable). The useful bindings generally cost too much for lower level players to use on a whim, even if you do get 90% of them back.

If not, at what level should I start browsing through the player shops for Mag+ to start with forging/IW?

For weapon, ASAP. Exq+ prefixed rapier of useful suffix will help you immensely, IWd to 10 and soulfused. That's by far the highest gear priority anyone should have.

For everything else, I wouldn't bother looking much until level 280 or so, since before that, whatever you find you'll outgrow pretty quickly, and it will (nearly by definition) be pretty low quality. Easier to find and use your own Superiors and Exquisites forged to 5 and then replaced every 35 levels or something. Weapon needs to be good and soulfused quickly, partly due to ADB level scaling, but armor is significantly less important.

Since armor will be replaced relatively quickly, no point in IWing; it takes too long.

A good shield is useful, but its most important stat (block) doesn't much grow with level scaling, so soulfusing it doesn't have much importance. Maybe think about it once you've found a good quality force shield at level 300+ and have soul fragments to spare.

The useful bindings generally cost too much for lower level players to use on a whim, even if you do get 90% of them back.

I must be missing something. How do you get 90% of them back? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

I must be missing something. How do you get 90% of them back? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

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Sure, for gears that don't require expensive special materials to forge, I'd say always forge everything to at least 5. It's not expensive and provides a very significant percentage increase over the base stats. Probably don't upgrade past 5 though unless you're rich, or unless the gear is a keeper (soulfusable). The useful bindings generally cost too much for lower level players to use on a whim, even if you do get 90% of them back.
For weapon, ASAP. Exq+ prefixed rapier of useful suffix will help you immensely, IWd to 10 and soulfused. That's by far the highest gear priority anyone should have.

For everything else, I wouldn't bother looking much until level 280 or so, since before that, whatever you find you'll outgrow pretty quickly, and it will (nearly by definition) be pretty low quality. Easier to find and use your own Superiors and Exquisites forged to 5 and then replaced every 35 levels or something. Weapon needs to be good and soulfused quickly, partly due to ADB level scaling, but armor is significantly less important.

Since armor will be replaced relatively quickly, no point in IWing; it takes too long.

A good shield is useful, but its most important stat (block) doesn't much grow with level scaling, so soulfusing it doesn't have much importance. Maybe think about it once you've found a good quality force shield at level 300+ and have soul fragments to spare.

Looks like I missed out on power ups again hahaha. Reminds me of the time the abilities page got a rework and I reached level 100 without noticing I didnt get to equip any of the abilities I upgraded.

For the rapier, it should be fine if I consider the level 300 ones too right? Since I'll be soulfusing anyways.

Also, when you say forge to 5, you mean upgrade all the stats available? Are there any low priority upgrades like maybe elemental mitigation (prefix) or dex and agi?

Anyway, I think I'll wait until I get a replacement for most of my current armour then since they're mostly beyond 40 levels below me. Maybe just the helmet and body armour. Guess I should hit WTS and start getting me some low grade materials too.

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For the rapier, it should be fine if I consider the level 300 ones too right? Since I'll be soulfusing anyways.

Yep, but in that case, don't settle for Exq since you'll be using a lot of soul fragments

Also, when you say forge to 5, you mean upgrade all the stats available? Are there any low priority upgrades like maybe elemental mitigation (prefix) or dex and agi?

Probably only the useful ones. Eg elemental mitigation, magical mitigation, Agi, and more are not very useful.

Is attack speed bonus (swift strike, agile buckler, etc.) bad for 1h heavy? never really played it so not sure what's good or bad for it.