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post Sep 21 2016, 05:03
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I'm trying to IW a shade piece on my own now that I can actually survive.

(Also, I think if I request one more IW from Super-L, he's going to hunt me down and hit me with it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) )

The question is.. if I start with a darkproof when I'm going for Juggernaut 5, should I wait it out or immediately throw an amnesia shard and start over?

Or does it depend what I get other than juggernaut whether I wait or not?

I'm only going with hard difficulty so only 300pxp at a time. PFUDOR still brutally strangles me with Legendary IWs.
It's still a huge challenge of continuous regen, health draughts, and restore health on just Hard difficulty.

Or better yet... Super-L, ...are you getting frustrated with my constant IW requests?
I understand if you are, because they are a complete pain in the azz, and you're already a rich player.
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post Sep 21 2016, 05:10
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Does reforge reset upgrades as well as potencies?
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post Sep 21 2016, 05:20
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QUOTE(fodasher @ Sep 21 2016, 05:10) *

Does reforge reset upgrades as well as potencies?


Just resets all pxp and potencies. Any upgrades stay put.
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post Sep 21 2016, 05:20
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QUOTE(redphil @ Sep 21 2016, 05:03) *

I'm trying to IW a shade piece on my own now that I can actually survive.

(Also, I think if I request one more IW from Super-L, he's going to hunt me down and hit me with it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) )

The question is.. if I start with a darkproof when I'm going for Juggernaut 5, should I wait it out or immediately throw an amnesia shard and start over?

Or does it depend what I get other than juggernaut whether I wait or not?

I'm only going with hard difficulty so only 300pxp at a time. PFUDOR still brutally strangles me with Legendary IWs.
It's still a huge challenge of continuous regen, health draughts, and restore health on just Hard difficulty.

Or better yet... Super-L, ...are you getting frustrated with my constant IW requests?
I understand if you are, because they are a complete pain in the azz, and you're already a rich player.


You should unlock 1 potency at time, 2 if you have dark descent.
And if you don't get full jug from first run, you reset.
Then you go on and hope it goes up to 5.

The other way is to soulfuse it and go iwbth and go for 4 potencies hoping for jug 3/4 first hit


QUOTE(fodasher @ Sep 21 2016, 05:10) *

Does reforge reset upgrades as well as potencies?

No.

Salvaging does that (and makes the item untradeable and throws it in bazaar where only you can buy it for 5x the buy price)
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post Sep 21 2016, 09:23
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QUOTE(redphil @ Sep 21 2016, 03:03) *
The question is.. if I start with a darkproof when I'm going for Juggernaut 5, should I wait it out or immediately throw an amnesia shard and start over?
Always

No matter what you're doing, first potency (or first or second, if on high difficulty or soulfused) must always be desirable, otherwise reset. (if you don't reset, it's extremely likely you'll have to reset in the future, which means more shards paid, as well as more runs spent on an almost-certain failed attempt)
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Or better yet... Super-L, ...are you getting frustrated with my constant IW requests?
No, if it's something I didn't like, it's not a service I would be offering
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post Sep 21 2016, 13:37
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Sep 21 2016, 05:20) *

You should unlock 1 potency at time, 2 if you have dark descent.
And if you don't get full jug from first run, you reset.
Then you go on and hope it goes up to 5.

The other way is to soulfuse it and go iwbth and go for 4 potencies hoping for jug 3/4 first hit
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Sep 21 2016, 09:23) *

Always

No matter what you're doing, first potency (or first or second, if on high difficulty or soulfused) must always be desirable, otherwise reset. (if you don't reset, it's extremely likely you'll have to reset in the future, which means more shards paid, as well as more runs spent on an almost-certain failed attempt)
No, if it's something I didn't like, it's not a service I would be offering


OK. First out of gate, or throw it away. Thank you!

The best answer is "Send out for service", for this is a pain. Hard difficulty feels like IWBTH.

I've already soulfused. Sigh. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Edit: No... wait.. I soulfused the Rapier. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I'm cleared! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Sep 21 2016, 13:58
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Since posts in the auction thread will likely be buried/not seen, I'll post here instead
QUOTE(ppp82p @ Sep 20 2016, 16:11) *
I can bet on it, since you (piyin) banned yourself from the biggest auctioneer out there (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Eh? If you're talking about mine, he's not currently on the shitlist. One would have to try really really hard to be rude enough to everyone else around for something like that. There were some who complained about mass bidding and resale with markup, but that's just the free market, which I'm not interfering with. I hope he didn't get the wrong idea from that exchange

Or did something happen I'm not aware of (I didn't know there were problems, or at least none that bad)
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post Sep 21 2016, 14:03
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Sep 21 2016, 13:58) *

Eh? If you're talking about mine, he's not currently on the shitlist. One would have to try really really hard to be rude enough to everyone else around for something like that. There were some who complained about mass bidding and resale with markup, but that's just the free market, which I'm not interfering with. I hope he didn't get the wrong idea from that exchange

Or did something happen I'm not aware of (I didn't know there were problems, or at least none that bad)

you were put in piyin's banlist - most likely for having posted in sss2 thread, since there are many common points between that banlist and those people who posted.

i guess ppp gave for assured that you would've banned him.
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post Sep 21 2016, 14:26
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 21 2016, 12:03) *
you were put in piyin's banlist - most likely for having posted in sss2 thread, since there are many common points between that banlist and those people who posted.
Oh



Wow
QUOTE(piyin @ Dec 20 2013, 16:38) *
BAN List:
-ST-Ru
-sssss2
-LOL50015
-Sesshomaru Moon
-jackalo
-jacquelope
-nobody_xxx
-needaname
-ArbiterErii
-ahmadindra20
-Sapo84
-Kadokura
-Scremaz
-hujan86
-ppp82p
-Fudo Masamune
-Superlatanium
-Basara Nekki
-tsunadebusty
-rockginger
That's just silly (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Well, I'm happy he put it at the top of his thread, since now newbies seeing something like that will probably warn them in advance about who they're dealing with if they stay on that thread, instead of closing it and looking for another.


Man... but I just said (before seeing any of this)
QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Sep 21 2016, 11:58) *
he's not currently on the shitlist. One would have to try really really hard to be rude enough to everyone else around for something like that.
Well, I guess this means... ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Sep 21 2016, 14:36
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Sep 21 2016, 14:26) *

That's just silly (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Well, I'm happy he put it at the top of his thread, since now newbies seeing something like that will probably warn them in advance about who they're dealing with if they stay on that thread, instead of closing it and looking for another.

my thoughts exactly. when i saw that i thought: "what should a newbie see when he would see a shop in which roughly all the current posters in Ask the Experts are banned?".
eventually someone will point it out sooner or later (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Sep 21 2016, 14:26) *

Man... but I just said (before seeing any of this)
Well, I guess this means... ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

it's your auction sir. your rules.
if you think there's the need to ban him, do it - otherwise not. the mere fact that you posted that before doesn't mean anything in my opinion. and if nothing else, you posted before seeing it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Sep 21 2016, 15:32
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Sep 21 2016, 09:02) *

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Listen to super all my experience and data support him.

However, you may want to opt for dark instead of holy just because you can probably get a better set for less money. The concept is the same, it's just dark.

Edt: In hindsight, since you already have an elec set it might be worthwhile to just try 1.0 prof with that set. I heard that non-imperil elem is passable.

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post Sep 21 2016, 16:14
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Hey guys 2 questions.

1. What stuff is worth salvaging? IE everything, only rare items (phase, power, ect), some specific rarity or better.
2. Is there any equipment type that's better to gamble on in the shrine? Only thing I could think of is cloth since high grades is worth a lot more then the others. Also the opposite, is there anything that's bad to gamble on.
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post Sep 21 2016, 17:00
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QUOTE(rexxrexrex @ Sep 21 2016, 17:14) *

Hey guys 2 questions.

1. What stuff is worth salvaging? IE everything, only rare items (phase, power, ect), some specific rarity or better.


Unsellable/unusable mag+ cloth/staff/shield is the only thing you should care about, some exquisite and average- may save small amount of credits, but you have to know current prices (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Sep 21 2016, 17:12
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QUOTE(rexxrexrex @ Sep 21 2016, 16:14) *

2. Is there any equipment type that's better to gamble on in the shrine? Only thing I could think of is cloth since high grades is worth a lot more then the others. Also the opposite, is there anything that's bad to gamble on.

it's worth to gamble either on what you need or what may have market.
it's not worth on everything that has too high chance of giving unsellable things.

long story short, better to sell trophies and let the duty of the gamble to someone else
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post Sep 21 2016, 17:36
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Alright, thanks for the answers!
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post Sep 21 2016, 18:18
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i guess ppp gave for assured that you would've banned him.

Nope, I gave for assured that he stopped sniping stuff in his auction...in fact he stopped posting in super's auctions at all.
Banning super and avoiding his auctions is equivalent of banning himself voluntarily (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Sep 21 2016, 18:46
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Sep 21 2016, 18:18) *

Nope, I gave for assured that he stopped sniping stuff in his auction...in fact he stopped posting in super's auctions at all.
Banning super and avoiding his auctions is equivalent of banning himself voluntarily (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

i'm not so sure. super's auctions are usually filled with stuff good enough for his shop. i don't want to badmouth him too much (absentees are always wrong, right?) but i guess he's just studying the situation a bit.
afterall he only banned latanium (alright, and a few other people (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ) from his shop. but if he isn't in banlist he has all the right to bid - and nobody of us to whine.
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post Sep 21 2016, 18:50
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Sep 22 2016, 00:46) *

i'm not so sure. super's auctions are usually filled with stuff good enough for his shop. i don't want to badmouth him too much (absentees are always wrong, right?) but i guess he's just studying the situation a bit.
afterall he only banned latanium (alright, and a few other people (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ) from his shop. but if he isn't in banlist he has all the right to bid - and nobody of us to whine.


Yeah but it would be extremely awkward for him to bid in super's action after what he did.
Frankly, I'd like to see him try, should be fun.

Regardless, I think piyin's role has been filled by zero1011 I guess. I've saw him bidding items en masse, although he hasn't set up stop yet, I wouldn't hold my breath considering he's been banned by Kei for profiteering.
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post Sep 21 2016, 19:03
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Sep 21 2016, 18:50) *

Yeah but it would be extremely awkward for him to bid in super's action after what he did.

not even awkward. only a bit rude imo.

QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Sep 21 2016, 18:50) *

Regardless, I think piyin's role has been filled by zero1011 I guess. I've saw him bidding items en masse, although he hasn't set up stop yet, I wouldn't hold my breath considering he's been banned by Kei for profiteering.

well, as above. reselling for profiteering isn't explicitly prohibited. afterall, he's taking all the risks connected to let an item rotting in his inventory. a single patch and he may be bankrupt.
personally i only care newbies aren't involved/scammed.
best thing you can do to avoid it is to do like Kei - offering a partial refund if you soulfuse the item to encourage you to actually use it.
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post Sep 21 2016, 19:33
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Sep 21 2016, 18:50) *

Yeah but it would be extremely awkward for him to bid in super's action after what he did.

Exactly.



QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Sep 21 2016, 18:50) *

Regardless, I think piyin's role has been filled by zero1011 I guess. I've saw him bidding items en masse, although he hasn't set up stop yet, I wouldn't hold my breath considering he's been banned by Kei for profiteering.

Well, I'm always been dubious about zero's behiavour...he buys, buys buys and resells only consumables.
He sniped me a couple of times items he didn't even use himself nor resell.
That's a bit annoying I guess (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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