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Sep 14 2016, 10:32
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crute
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Once you go into imperil mage territory its not just dmg that matters the chance of your imperils going off and chance of stragglers after a t3 matters as well. Therefore deprec prof cr matter a lot too and dark coincidentally have both of in willow of destruction.
This post has been edited by cirrux: Sep 14 2016, 10:35
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Sep 14 2016, 19:31
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cichy133
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Sep 14 2016, 20:08
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Benny-boy
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QUOTE(cichy133 @ Sep 14 2016, 20:31)  You now, its "ask the experts" thread, not "spam your requests" (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Sep 15 2016, 09:46
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-Shun-
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In which situations do you guys prefer to use weapon skills over spirit stance? for melee playstyle anyways
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Sep 15 2016, 10:19
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(IshimaruShun @ Sep 15 2016, 07:46)  In which situations do you guys prefer to use weapon skills over spirit stance? for melee playstyle anyways For 1h, almost never, because then you'd be frequently enabling and running out of OC, which is annoying. Better to perma-spirit stance. The only exception is when against monsters with huge amounts of HP, like FSM, Real Life, and the dragons. Niten can use Skyward to stun enemies for a few turns, which results in safer but slower play. Niten has no PA though, so almost no one uses it seriously...
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Sep 15 2016, 10:47
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Sep 15 2016, 10:19)  QUOTE(IshimaruShun @ Sep 15 2016, 09:46)  In which situations do you guys prefer to use weapon skills over spirit stance? for melee playstyle anyways
For 1h, almost never, because then you'd be frequently enabling and running out of OC, which is annoying. Better to perma-spirit stance. The only exception is when against monsters with huge amounts of HP, like FSM, Real Life, and the dragons. Niten can use Skyward to stun enemies for a few turns, which results in safer but slower play. Niten has no PA though, so almost no one uses it seriously... i may also add when in DW and again against very tanky mobs Frezined Blows may be useful at any point, while T3 skill for 1H style is a certain-kill only around the end. either way, all of these are very particular cases. personally i'd also go for Spirit Stance (and eventually OFC) as much as possible
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Sep 15 2016, 11:04
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Sep 15 2016, 10:19)  For 1h, almost never, because then you'd be frequently enabling and running out of OC, which is annoying. Better to perma-spirit stance. The only exception is when against monsters with huge amounts of HP, like FSM, Real Life, and the dragons.
I would still rather use 200OC and OFC than micro-manage T1 and T2 1H skill. OFC is crazy good and should be used as soon as you can (well, not at the end of a round) while remaining in spirit stance (OC >230).
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Sep 15 2016, 11:14
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Sep 15 2016, 09:04)  I would still rather use 200OC and OFC than micro-manage T1 and T2 1H skill. OFC is crazy good and should be used as soon as you can (well, not at the end of a round) while remaining in spirit stance (OC >230). Yep If I still used 1h I think I would only ever use the weapon skills when fighting FSM (not on TT&T, use OFC for that) to finish off the last 25%. But I'd probably forget to do it most of the time since I'd just need to keep hovering a bit more to achieve the same thing.
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Sep 15 2016, 12:03
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-Shun-
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I see, looks like I'll stick with spirit stance then.
And I dont think I'll be able to collect all the figurines for OFC anytime soon....... or ever hahaha... orz
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Sep 15 2016, 12:11
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(IshimaruShun @ Sep 15 2016, 12:03)  And I dont think I'll be able to collect all the figurines for OFC anytime soon....... or ever hahaha... orz
Just buy it, you should be able to get each at ~25k.
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Sep 15 2016, 12:14
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Usagi =
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Sep 15 2016, 08:12)  He does it regularly and this exactly how threads end up as garbage can (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) We already have almost no moderation on forums and I don't think we should encourage such behavior (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) I agree. Cichy can post it in the ponyverse thread instead if he really wants to post it in HV chat. PS:: I misyped Cichy as Cirrux when writing this lol. Cichy and Cirux, what a duo! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This post has been edited by LOL50015: Sep 15 2016, 12:14
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Sep 15 2016, 12:26
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Sep 15 2016, 11:14)  If I still used 1h I think I would only ever use the weapon skills when fighting FSM (not on TT&T, use OFC for that) to finish off the last 25%. But I'd probably forget to do it most of the time since I'd just need to keep hovering a bit more to achieve the same thing.
yep. only case in which T3 skill may be useful. also, mind that T2-generated BW proc is required to stack for T3 skill to connect, so it's not so granted of a thing.
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Sep 15 2016, 14:19
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Juggernaut Santa
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Sep 15 2016, 10:19)  Niten can use Skyward to stun enemies for a few turns, which results in safer but slower play. Niten has no PA though, so almost no one uses it seriously...
Skyward Sword doesn't stun, it stacks 3x PA and 5x BW on 5 monsters (Target+2 Above+2 Below). It's "useful" at mid-low levels to stack a proc (Penetrated Armor) that the style can't provide otherwise, and kill the monsters fast. At higher levels probably, SG apart, monsters aren't that tanky and damage isn't that low to justify the use of Skyward Sword. It could be useful on SG anyway.
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Sep 16 2016, 03:54
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Sep 15 2016, 12:19)  Skyward Sword doesn't stun, it stacks 3x PA and 5x BW on 5 monsters (Target+2 Above+2 Below). Oh, you're right, I was thinking of FRD that Niten sometimes uses. But that's not their weapon skill, it's the Dovahkin skill. A question - does anyone know if monster order is randomized, or if (for instance) the first monster picked by the system goes into the first slot as Monster A, etc? I imagine it wouldn't be hard to figure out
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