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Sep 25 2011, 18:45
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varst
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(SuperHuy @ Sep 26 2011, 00:41)  Hey guys im a mage type character and i was wondering if it is worth it to invest in the tier2 nukes (meteor, blizzard, etc....) then their tier 1 equivalent (inferno, snowstorm, etc). I didnt try it much but the damage increase is neglible to the increase in mana consumption but that might be because im low level. Oh and ive been using light armor, should i be using cloth? Thanks in advance! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) It's all because you're using light armor. Get some elementalist/fox clothes, train your cloth prof., get a good staff, and you should be fine.
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Sep 25 2011, 18:56
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buktore
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QUOTE(varst @ Sep 25 2011, 23:21)  You guys should start moving your discussion to 'a few request' thread.
Does anyone even actually want to request anything or even care at all? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I was pretty sure that all of this is just for the lulz... I'm wrong?! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Sep 25 2011, 19:03
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varst
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 11,561
Joined: 30-March 10

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QUOTE(buktore @ Sep 26 2011, 00:56)  Does anyone even actually want to request anything or even care at all? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I was pretty sure that all of this is just for the lulz... I'm wrong?! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I would say you guys have made some good points, but unfortunately some other players may skip this thread because of various reasons. Putting the discussion in the request thread won't make it more serious; I do think I have seen tons of bad ideas there, including those 'give more stamina' posts which pop up once in a while
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Sep 25 2011, 19:06
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Mi-Ala Starbreeze
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,024
Joined: 7-March 09

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M'eh. I am too lazy to clear Arena challenges now. Missed approx. eight flat days of Arenas, guess that equals roughly 300k Cr lootquality-dependant.
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Sep 25 2011, 19:57
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Randommember
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 3,447
Joined: 13-November 10

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QUOTE(MiAla @ Sep 25 2011, 19:06)  M'eh. I am too lazy to clear Arena challenges now. Missed approx. eight flat days of Arenas, guess that equals roughly 300k Cr lootquality-dependant.
Some people say they clear all arenas every day. I don't understand that, I did that for a while when I was lower level and didn't have all that many arenas to clear, but now I can't clear all arenas since that would drop me below 80 stamina, which is a place where I don't want to be. So do people actually play below 80 stamina? I'm sure that they do of course, but do they really do that a lot, I mean stamina regenerates at the same rate even if you got 80 stamina or 40 stamina, so continually doing lots of arenas would continue to push your stamina down and mean you'd never make it back to 80+ unless you skip a day or two here and there. Personally, I stop playing when I hit 80, and wait for it to regen. This post has been edited by Randommember: Sep 25 2011, 19:58
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Sep 25 2011, 20:07
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hzqr
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 4,672
Joined: 13-May 09

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I, for one, only play below 80. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) I'm trying to slow down my leveling, and having great status does not help. I think the last time I was above 80 was ~2 weeks ago.
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Sep 25 2011, 20:07
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ohmightycat
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 11,382
Joined: 13-December 09

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As somebody who does play with stamina below 80, I can say that it seems to drop a lot slower once you hit 79 compared to how it flies down from 99-80.
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Sep 25 2011, 20:46
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Slobber
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 7,794
Joined: 4-February 11

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yes consumption is usually double when it's great status. stamina 79/lower goes a much longer way than 80+. i use 80+ for leveling purposes but for item purposes i use 79/lower
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Sep 25 2011, 20:53
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MidNightPass
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 5,230
Joined: 20-March 11

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QUOTE(dcherry @ Sep 26 2011, 02:46)  yes consumption is usually double when it's great status. stamina 79/lower goes a much longer way than 80+. i use 80+ for leveling purposes but for item purposes i use 79/lower
I believe it is 5 times more.
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Sep 25 2011, 21:19
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RajaNagaSoz
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QUOTE(DragonRanger @ Sep 25 2011, 12:13)  Should I bother investing in Regen, or should I stick to Cure magic? I have the distinct feeling the HP restoration from Regen is quite a bit less than the Cure spell.
If you're a melee type, i can relate that regen doesn't seem all that great, however, it's something nice to toss out when you get channeling at the -very- least. Using regen and a mace seem to work better since the patches, as when enemies are stunned, even if you miss, you still get hp, as as long as you can continue facecrushing through the earlier arena levels (the ones with 2-4 enemies per round) regen can coast you through a good 4-6 rounds without needing a single cure. I still wouldn't cast it by itself as a normal cure seems more cost effective. If you're a mage, you probably have the mana to keep it on all the time, but i don't know about maging really, so i'm probably wrong. Usually i end up waiting until i'm knocked down to below my cure's restoration, and use it, if it channels or i get a mystic gem, i put up regen, if regen is up, i put up haste, if both are up, spark of life. If all three are up, holy crap why am i getting channeling again?!
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Sep 25 2011, 21:28
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Slobber
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 4-February 11

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QUOTE(MidNightPass @ Sep 25 2011, 12:53)  I believe it is 5 times more.
oops. yeah 5x* more (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Sep 25 2011, 21:38
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hzqr
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 4,672
Joined: 13-May 09

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Regen becomes a lot more effective once you raise your proficiencies. When I first got it, it looked completely useless and I hardly used it. This is what they do for me now, after some training:
Cure → 3729 HP (Channeling → 5600+ HP) Cure II, Cure III → Full HP (~6300 HP)
Regen → 9918 HP (Channeling → 15048 HP) Regen II → 34650 HP (Channeling → 51072 HP)
tl;dr raise your proficiencies
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Sep 25 2011, 21:46
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DragonRanger
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All the advice makes me wish I could give karma to all of you at once. I'll settle for giving it out one-at-a-time.
My curative magic proficiency is currently 45.34.
This post has been edited by DragonRanger: Sep 25 2011, 21:55
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Sep 25 2011, 22:12
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HaliZorat
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With monsters hitting harder than ever, Regen's usefulness has gone down somewhat though, since the small amount it heals per turn can't last very long against hoards of high damage attacks. I'd have to say that unless I was very unlucky, I only needed Regen alone to sweep through Arenas at Nightmare or lower before the recent patches. Now, I usually have trouble even on Heroic.
However, it's still much better than Cure with high proficiency and it's something I usually constantly keep up (both for healing and for the Channeling chance, which I use for either Regen II or Heartseeker).
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Sep 25 2011, 22:35
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Slobber
Group: Gold Star Club
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Mmm I agree somewhat with you there. My Cure heals ~2.5k in 1 shot while my Regen 2 heals ~450 per shot. Often times I lose 1k hp a turn. When I refresh buffs/use gems, ~450 per pulse is perfect whereas Cure would have been overkill. This is the beauty of regen - very fast healing that doesn't give them much of a chance to attack you while still allowing yourself to heal. In situations where I lose lots of life, my Cure goes from 2.5k hp heal to 3k because regen pulses as well but that's gravy compared to the speed advantage regen offers.
When I do normal arenas, I usually keep AF+Regen 2 up and that's it.
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Sep 25 2011, 23:56
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Mi-Ala Starbreeze
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,024
Joined: 7-March 09

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QUOTE(Randommember @ Sep 25 2011, 20:57)  Some people say they clear all arenas every day. I don't understand that, I did that for a while when I was lower level and didn't have all that many arenas to clear, but now I can't clear all arenas since that would drop me below 80 stamina, which is a place where I don't want to be.
So do people actually play below 80 stamina? I'm sure that they do of course, but do they really do that a lot, I mean stamina regenerates at the same rate even if you got 80 stamina or 40 stamina, so continually doing lots of arenas would continue to push your stamina down and mean you'd never make it back to 80+ unless you skip a day or two here and there.
Personally, I stop playing when I hit 80, and wait for it to regen.
When I used to clear all arenas I started @ 88-90 stamina every day and ended up @ 75-77.
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Sep 26 2011, 00:14
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Koudesu
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Posts: 458
Joined: 29-August 05

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I'm only doing the arenas with trophies. I hardly have the time to do every arena, but then again I'm doing them all on Nightmare or above.
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Sep 26 2011, 00:24
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n125
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 6,282
Joined: 23-May 08

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It's too exhausting and time-consuming to do all of my arenas, especially every day. Usually I just start at Crusade and call it a day once I finish Twisted Plots. That usually takes my stamina from 99 to 78. If I start the session with less than 99 stamina, I'll usually stop a couple arenas short of Twisted Plots just so my stamina has enough time to regenerate back up to 99 before the next Dawn. If I happen to get an artifact and it turns out to be an Energy Drink, sometimes I'll use it and finish off the remaining arenas just to work on proficiencies (Forbidden is a bitch).
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Sep 26 2011, 00:35
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Koudesu
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I'm going to work on my proficiencies a little after I get spirit shield, in preparation for level 200.
Shift str/dex/agi into vit/int/wisdom, grab a level 10ish 2 handed weapon, and swing away with a bunch of mana potions. Should help me boost my light armor/2H/supportive/curative profs nicely.
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Sep 26 2011, 07:43
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teals03
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I have generally been just doing arenas on normal cause its fast and easy. I don't think that credits are effected by difficultly level? I recently started turning up the difficulty to as high as I could manage for each individual arena challenge cause I just read the patch notes and it states your get better loot which makes complete sense obviously. Yet, the only items I seem to be getting when I turn up the difficulty are godly potions and worthless crystals. (I don't plan on making a monster)
Unless making a monster is actually worth the time and unreasonable amount of crystals?
This post has been edited by teals03: Sep 26 2011, 07:44
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