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So what would you recommend instead? Something that stuns or something that gives armor pen?

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=50a4f49289 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Just a joke. Mace is the best in this patch.

Almost no procs, tons of misses, and every single round has at least 3 giants.

I feel hated on today (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=50a4f49289 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Just a joke. Mace is the best in this patch.

Lol, so 2h swords are good? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Lol, so 2h swords are good? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Not really.

Lol, so 2h swords are good? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Nah.
By the way check your mail. It is nowhere near Slaughter ADM, yes, but I think pretty hich proc chance AND crit will compensate that.

So... mkonji sold this and opt to stick with non-eth instead; from his own words "I'd rather keep my 29% non-Ethereal" ...

Wait... What?! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

So... mkonji sold this and opt to stick with non-eth instead; from his own words "I'd rather keep my 29% non-Ethereal" ...

Wait... What?! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Hes not yet lvl220 and he has no problems with the schoolgirls?

speaking of schoolgirls,i have just reached 220 and i found only 3 trophies ( +3 the ones from the last round ) on the Twilight.Is that the common drop rate,and if so does it increase with difficulty? (cleared it on normal since it was my first time )


edit: yeah i meant end of days (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by mitsos21: Sep 12 2011, 20:36

Hes not yet lvl220 and he has no problems with the schoolgirls?

He is now... And he doesn't seem to like the speed of EoD, that's for sure. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

I would use it even if the benefits in schoolgirls marathon are not count... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

speaking of schoolgirls,i have just reached 220 and i found only 3 trophies ( +3 the ones from the last round ) on the Twilight.Is that the common drop rate,and if so does it increase with difficulty? (cleared it on normal since it was my first time )

I believe what you really meant is "End of Days" right? ... And yes, that's the common drop rate. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) (10% for non-final round)

This post has been edited by buktore: Sep 12 2011, 20:07

Nah.
By the way check your mail. It is nowhere near Slaughter ADM, yes, but I think pretty hich proc chance AND crit will compensate that.

Not sure what Slaughter ADM means but thank you very much.

So... mkonji sold this and opt to stick with non-eth instead; from his own words "I'd rather keep my 29% non-Ethereal" ...

Wait... What?! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

For the record I didn't actually sell it, I'm just letting him test it out.

But I did normal EoD just fine (a little slow) with my non-ethereal. The speed wasn't THAT that bad, but I was expecting a bit quicker on Normal since on Heroic Crusade/To Kill A God the girls die mighty quick. But I guess 1 girl is a little different than 50 and it starts to drag.

In most of my battles (Heroic Arenas bellow T&T and item worlds) the Ethereal was definitely weaker because I don't have a very high-crit build (I prioritize Agility) and only reliably stunning 3-5 per hit is a big difference from reliably stunning 5-7 (on top of the 29% stun proc, my non-eth also has a good deal better crit bonus). But when I did Nintendo T&T I noticed a non-marginal difference (about half the potions used). I'll probably keep it around as a sidegrade for doing EoD and T&T.

I'm having quite the opposite effect; there are so many giants to deal with that I'm starting to think I should shell out a ton of creds just to get an ethereal mace for them. As it is right now on Heroic, it takes on average, 10-12 hits to kill them (4-5 with stun proc). And when you have ENTIRE ROUNDS full of giants, it gets pretty hairy.

WTB> Good Eth Mace (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

This post has been edited by Koudesu: Sep 12 2011, 20:26

I'm having quite the opposite effect; there are so many giants to deal with that I'm starting to think I should shell out a ton of creds just to get an ethereal mace for them. As it is right now on Heroic, it takes on average, 10-12 hits to kill them (4-5 with stun proc). And when you have ENTIRE ROUNDS full of giants, it gets pretty hairy.

WTB> Good Eth Mace (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

But, see, the thing is giants have horrible Agility. So with your high agility and a 3 turn duration stun, you can EASILY get 4-5 hits on them from a single stun proc. And with Hearseaker, and 29% stun chance, and nearly 80% chance Domino strike, three well-placed attacks will usually stun every one of them.

I'm having quite the opposite effect; there are so many giants to deal with that I'm starting to think I should shell out a ton of creds just to get an ethereal mace for them. As it is right now on Heroic, it takes on average, 10-12 hits to kill them (4-5 with stun proc). And when you have ENTIRE ROUNDS full of giants, it gets pretty hairy.

WTB> Good Eth Mace (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

Try a good Rapier or an Estoc (if you're 2-hander). Giants resistance to piercing damage was nerfed since 0.6.1, so it's a good way to deal with them.

But, see, the thing is giants have horrible Agility. So with your high agility and a 3 turn duration stun, you can EASILY get 4-5 hits on them from a single stun proc. And with Hearseaker, and 29% stun chance, and nearly 80% chance Domino strike, three well-placed attacks will usually stun every one of them.

Currently level 144 with a 58% Domino Strike chance :< and no Heartseeker. I do have this though.

My agi atm is 175, with a 158.4 Action speed. I've been meaning to switch from Shield to Haste, but I need to start updating my Shade gear again.

I was considering trying Estoc, but stun is actually keeping me alive longer, because instead of 5+ giants macking on me, I'd have 2 or 3.

Currently level 144 with a 58% Domino Strike chance :< and no Heartseeker. I do have this though.

My agi atm is 175, with a 158.4 Action speed. I've been meaning to switch from Shield to Haste, but I need to start updating my Shade gear again.

I was considering trying Estoc, but stun is actually keeping me alive longer, because instead of 5+ giants macking on me, I'd have 2 or 3.

Mace is just better, given the mobs hit harder now .

unfortunately the new patch has made incapacitation vital to fighting against monsters. stun/sleep/blind etc. i've had to swap elements from elec/fire -> wind/elec just to avoid getting killed from a wave of attacks (despite spirit shield). wind = chance to miss

For the record I didn't actually sell it, I'm just letting him test it out.

But I did normal EoD just fine (a little slow) with my non-ethereal. The speed wasn't THAT that bad, but I was expecting a bit quicker on Normal since on Heroic Crusade/To Kill A God the girls die mighty quick. But I guess 1 girl is a little different than 50 and it starts to drag.

In most of my battles (Heroic Arenas bellow T&T and item worlds) the Ethereal was definitely weaker because I don't have a very high-crit build (I prioritize Agility) and only reliably stunning 3-5 per hit is a big difference from reliably stunning 5-7 (on top of the 29% stun proc, my non-eth also has a good deal better crit bonus). But when I did Nintendo T&T I noticed a non-marginal difference (about half the potions used). I'll probably keep it around as a sidegrade for doing EoD and T&T.

Oh... That make sense now. Thanks! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I guess it's a difference in preference. I don't really care about the fact that stunned mobs = you don't take damage. I only care about speed; the only reason I use mace right now is because it does the most damage (plus it's something I already own, so no hassle trying to get it). If this got changed in the future, most likely, I'll switch.

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I have a feeling that the high damage done by mobs are meant to be mitigate by equipment upgrade (forge). And since that isn't done yet, you end up with mobs that could curb-stomp people to death, even in normal diff.

Things will probably get better. Probably... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Things will probably get better. Probably... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Or not. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Oh... That make sense now. Thanks! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I guess it's a difference in preference. I don't really care about the fact that stunned mobs = you don't take damage. I only care about speed; the only reason I use mace right now is because it does the most damage (plus it's something I already own, so no hassle trying to get it). If this got changed in the future, most likely, I'll switch.

Don't get me wrong, I care about speed too. It's just that I usually don't bother with high-difficulty challenges (they rarely give good drops, anyway; pretty much everything good I own I got from lvl 50 boss trophies). And at the lower difficulty, more stun = more two-shots.