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post Sep 7 2011, 22:54
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QUOTE(MidNightPass @ Sep 8 2011, 03:50) *

Some overpowered stuffs... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


[hv.e-hentai.org] http://hv.e-hentai.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=aa023d474d
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post Sep 7 2011, 22:55
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QUOTE(buktore @ Sep 8 2011, 04:54) *


I am speechless. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Sep 7 2011, 23:06
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QUOTE(roadgray @ Sep 7 2011, 21:26) *

I've been trying out this mace http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=ff9b989323
with the same setup I have in my signature. While the stun and damage certainly is nice, I really miss my shield (especially on the higher difficulties).

So my question: What about clubs? How do they compare to maces?

I could equip a shield with it and not feel as naked as I do now.


I've been able to do insane single-target damage with Club + Swordchucks (regular 10k crits are niiiiiiiice) and have also tried Club + Shield, but ultimately you kill rounds so much slower that you'll run out of mana a lot quicker. Even with my good old pre-nerf 31% Block Kite shield, I kind find much going for the old Sword and Board (sans the Sword, these days). I have reluctantly moved onto the Mace just like everyone else. Traded in 100 monster trophies for Two-handed weapons in hopes for one, but all Snowflake gave me was a better Ethereal Estoc. The gods are mocking me.
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post Sep 7 2011, 23:10
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Why don't you look for one in WTS?
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post Sep 7 2011, 23:14
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QUOTE(mkonji @ Sep 8 2011, 04:06) *
but all Snowflake gave me was a better Ethereal Estoc.


(IMG:[s3.amazonaws.com] http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/newsfeed/000/167/499/laughinggirls.gif?1314500041)

Seriously, though, that is nice. But gods sure is mocking you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Sep 7 2011, 23:20
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QUOTE(MidNightPass @ Sep 7 2011, 23:10) *

Why don't you look for one in WTS?

Everyone who wants to buy one has to get past MiAla first.
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post Sep 7 2011, 23:22
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QUOTE(roadgray @ Sep 8 2011, 05:20) *

Everyone who wants to buy one has to get past MiAla first.


I don't mean an ethereal one though. It's nice to have but not a necessity.
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post Sep 7 2011, 23:22
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QUOTE(buktore @ Sep 7 2011, 23:14) *

[s3.amazonaws.com] http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/....gif?1314500041

Seriously, though, that was nice. But gods sure is mocking you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

You wait and see! Tenboro will buff armor next patch and Estocs will be viable again, mark my words!

Anyway, my non-Ethereal Mace does just fine in Heroic even if them Randomly Generated Mazes, Uselesses, and Fat Bottomed Girls are a bit of a pain to take down. Finding a Ethereal whose quality justifies the upgrade in this market is not something my pocket-book desires.
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post Sep 7 2011, 23:26
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QUOTE(roadgray @ Sep 8 2011, 00:20) *

Everyone who wants to buy one has to get past MiAla first.

And what might be the PЯOBLEM with that? O_o

QUOTE(buktore @ Sep 7 2011, 23:54) *

I would gladly eat your ribcage uncooked for that single item >__<
/drool
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post Sep 7 2011, 23:39
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Haven't used shields in like 170 levels, can't say I miss them (IMG:[i.minus.com] http://i.minus.com/ibpZKh2XFCGjQA.gif)
And yet I keep getting dozens of Bucklers of Protection (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Sep 7 2011, 23:41
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QUOTE(MiAla @ Sep 8 2011, 01:26) *

And what might be the PЯOBLEM with that? O_o

Maybe he's just can't afford to make any girl sad. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

QUOTE(MiAla @ Sep 8 2011, 01:26) *

I would gladly eat your ribcage uncooked for that single item >__<
/drool

Oh, you... Now I want to eat some roasted meat... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Sep 7 2011, 23:53
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>60% Block + 3 Counters + 25x4 Club = lulz. Its simple arithmetic.
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post Sep 8 2011, 00:19
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QUOTE(buktore @ Sep 7 2011, 22:54) *

QUOTE(cmal @ Sep 7 2011, 23:53) *

>60% Block + 3 Counters + 25x4 Club = lulz. Its simple arithmetic.

How high block can you get with high 1-H proficiency, shield armor and one of those uber block shields?
200 in proficiency gives you +10% block, I've seen shield armor with over 4% block bonus, and that shield has an amazing 38,62% block.

How high is it possible to get if you kit out for it?
And is block the primary avoidance, or is evade first? And when does parry/resist come in?
Since as I understand it, with 20% evasion and 50% block, that means if you get hit, you have a 20% chance to evade and a 40% chance to block and 40% chance to get hit.
Assuming that evasion goes before block, otherwise it's 50% block, 10% evade and 40% hit. Still same chance to get hit, but kinda important for the chance to counter.
Assuming also that you have no parry.
Parry works only against melee attacks and resistance only against magic attacks, correct?
And parry also gives a chance to counter?

So in what order are they applied. If you add in 20% chance to parry to the whole mess above, things can get kinda skewed. The chance to get hit would be 32%, but would the chance to get a counter be 60% (block and parry counted first, evasion last) or 48%?

And does crits go through avoidance? Or is crit counted as a chance from when you hit?
So if the enemy has a 10% chance to crit, would you get critted 10% of all hits, or 3,2% of all hits (10% of those that go through your avoidance). Or would you even get critted 10% of all hits and then be hit by the 32% of the remaining 90% non-crit hits?
Assuming in all cases that there is no miss chance.
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post Sep 8 2011, 00:20
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post Sep 8 2011, 00:48
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QUOTE(buktore @ Sep 7 2011, 16:54) *

How much is this? I cannot resist the urge to ask. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Sep 8 2011, 00:54
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QUOTE(foolboy @ Sep 8 2011, 06:48) *

How much is this? I cannot resist the urge to ask. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Into the range of half a million (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ? Who knows.
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post Sep 8 2011, 04:41
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And parry also gives a chance to counter?


I'm not sure about anything else you asked, but the wiki at least says that counter-attacks can happen on either a block or a parry. Because of that, whether block is applied first or parry, you get the same percentage of attacks that could trigger a counter-attack (in your example: 20% + 40% = 50% + 10%).
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post Sep 8 2011, 04:44
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I DW with 21% parry and I don't think I've ever countered in any patches.
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post Sep 8 2011, 04:50
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Can only counter when you block/parry with a shield equipped, not while dual-wielding
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post Sep 8 2011, 04:50
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Ah, makes more sense now.
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