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Mar 9 2016, 13:52
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HV withdrawal symptoms...
Stay calm and breathe.
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Mar 9 2016, 14:00
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Mister E-
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QUOTE(karyl123 @ Mar 9 2016, 12:08)  The site is currently in Read Only Mode. This page is therefore not available.
NUOOOOOOOOO
well i did of what you told me to, now still waiting for a sage for any advice >_<
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Mar 9 2016, 14:06
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safmy
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Mar 9 2016, 03:40)  Good info, thanks, though something's going wrong since rounds aren't being recorded.
At what level of crystal perks is that? bad reasoning
Your turns aren't being recorded, but at 7 Arch that's around 6.2 artifacts per fest. At 19k per artifact that's 117.8k.
So for Crys5 at Arch 7, total revenue is 117800 + 104455 + (73000 * 2.29) + extras = 497k + extras, maybe 520k. So for Crys5 at max training, total revenue is 8.13 * 19000 + 104455 + (73000 * 2.29) + extras = 426k + extras, maybe 450k.
340k hellfest, 370k ninfest, 450k pffest.
Scrolls are fine, especially on PF they increase income gained via saved Cure turns much more than they cost (in terms of cost of 1 turn + cost of 1 scroll every 100 action time). (but on low difficulty with high level and forging, it's debatable)
Positive mana potions as mage over PF-fest? Positive spirit elixirs as well? Wow
I used gums to complete this run, I didn't have the patience. Normally I'm negative 20 or so mana potions. I've only got Crystarium IV . Rounds not recorded because I'm using spell spam + reloader maybe? I can see the round counter though. edit2: question on IW, I've got archmage lvl2 and annihilator lvl 3 and penetrator lv 4 on a redwood staff. For redwood staff, should I just abandon all hope of penetrator? Since I'll either be using it primarily without imperil? This post has been edited by safmy: Mar 9 2016, 14:56
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Mar 9 2016, 14:08
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karyl123
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QUOTE(Mister E- @ Mar 9 2016, 19:00)  well i did of what you told me to, now still waiting for a sage for any advice
>_<
heeeeyyy guuuyssss this dude ask me me how to be a good mage. but i am total clueless about maging. he didnt even know what to ask. I also dont know what to ask to be good mage. --------------- side note : any error after maintenance ? like stamina back to 99 like usual for peeps that not in battle? I didnt read the site update that EH will have maintenance. This post has been edited by karyl123: Mar 9 2016, 14:09
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Mar 9 2016, 14:48
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nec1986
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For proper mage player needs something close to 400 level or higher and maybe 10-20m credits. And sure iw, soulfuse and other stuff. This way its quite good. Otherwise can work too, but its usually high amount of cures and in long runs also sp elixirs. Tho i think its acceptable. Also i d say 1h mage is very decent style and many ppl underestimate it. Sure its harder than ordinary 1h play, because it includes imperil debuffing, but with ofc it has almost same clearspeed as my full mage and at the same time defense even better than my full 1h. It has some disadvantages like high mp comsumption, but at the end its only small amount of credits and when player needs additional defense then its like nothing.
Overall i d say any mage aim at 2 targets: 1. Get as much mdb+edb as possibly. 2. Reduce monster`s defense by prof/imperil. Because we have to choose between cotton/phase armor then we mostly look for balance: Elemental mages. Without imperil full 1,0 prof factor which means double amount of current level. Its possibly by 2 gears with good forge and prof perk. 2 clots is almost half, but we sacrifice so high amount of edb, because its very common for monsters to have even 70 mitg. Full 1,0 prof factor reduces 50 points and this way monsters defense instead 70% damage reduction gives only 20%. Its huge difference, because when we did 100k base damage it was increase from 30k to 80k (almost in 3 times higher). Imperil also reduces mitg and this way we usually aim at 0,6-0,8 prof factor which is possibly with only 1 cotton with good forge and prof perk. As i said we always wanna get as much edb as possibly, but without debuff harm. Holy/Dark mages have reduced imperil reduction so this way 1,0 prof is ok for both styles. Overall monsters mitg also slightly lower so 0,7 prof factor with imperil is also not so bad and gives similar result.
Thats why high budget is good for mages. They dont have good defense and the lower level/longer clearspeed player has the harder it to play. Without prof forge we or use additional slot for cotton or have weaker debuff. It can be not so big difference in turns, because on pf even top mage probably has close to 7t/round and cheap good mage probably 12-13t/round, but definitely it ll be huge difference in income damage. Still its mostly question about attention and focusing, because with new pots our restoration is almost unlimited.
This post has been edited by nec1986: Mar 9 2016, 14:51
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Mar 9 2016, 18:51
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f4tal
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Mar 9 2016, 19:13
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Mar 9 2016, 23:51)  1st , just sell it to bazaar 2nd , send it to auction (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Mar 9 2016, 19:14
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Juggernaut Santa
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Mar 9 2016, 17:51)  These could make some money in auction :v I sold slightly better ones at 1.1m and slightly worse ones at 400k (not same suffixes though). It's worth to try. The breastplate is...free high grade leather I think. Even lv 200 non-power stuff is almost impossible to sell, I do not think that a lv 315 has more hope >.<
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Mar 9 2016, 20:19
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(FabulousCupcake @ Mar 9 2016, 18:16)  iirc Fire stuff are quite hard to find, so you may auction it. sadly for you this has quite low EDB, INT and WIS, so it's unlikely it'll fetch high prices. still a Leg though, so worth to try
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Mar 9 2016, 20:22
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FabulousCupcake
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 9 2016, 19:19)  iirc Fire stuff are quite hard to find, so you may auction it. sadly for you this has quite low EDB, INT and WIS, so it's unlikely it'll fetch high prices. still a Leg though, so worth to try
The fire EDB is record breaking lowest (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Mar 9 2016, 21:22
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Ea-Moon
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Something I can't really find in the Wiki.
With melee weapons that have an elemental prefix, does forging the element just add bonus damage to actual spells, or to the Elemental Strike itself as well?
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Mar 9 2016, 21:32
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Ea-Moon @ Mar 9 2016, 20:22)  Something I can't really find in the Wiki.
With melee weapons that have an elemental prefix, does forging the element just add bonus damage to actual spells, or to the Elemental Strike itself as well?
only to elemental spells, and only in case you cast them.
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Mar 9 2016, 22:49
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tayulog
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Mar 9 2016, 13:48)  Overall i d say any mage aim at 2 targets: 1. Get as much mdb+edb as possibly. 2. Reduce monster`s defense by prof/imperil. Because we have to choose between cotton/phase armor then we mostly look for balance: Elemental mages. Without imperil full 1,0 prof factor which means double amount of current level. Its possibly by 2 gears with good forge and prof perk. 2 clots is almost half, but we sacrifice so high amount of edb, because its very common for monsters to have even 70 mitg. Full 1,0 prof factor reduces 50 points and this way monsters defense instead 70% damage reduction gives only 20%. Its huge difference, because when we did 100k base damage it was increase from 30k to 80k (almost in 3 times higher). Imperil also reduces mitg and this way we usually aim at 0,6-0,8 prof factor which is possibly with only 1 cotton with good forge and prof perk. As i said we always wanna get as much edb as possibly, but without debuff harm. Holy/Dark mages have reduced imperil reduction so this way 1,0 prof is ok for both styles. Overall monsters mitg also slightly lower so 0,7 prof factor with imperil is also not so bad and gives similar result.
Do you have some data of your average damage to monster before/after you buy the prof perk? (with only the prof perk, no equipement upgrades/ almost same level etc) (Edit: I equip 3 cotton of the elementalist and I reached 692 elemental prof. Is it normal that the "proficiency capped at x2 your level" for a player is not capped on your character page?) This post has been edited by tayulog: Mar 9 2016, 23:24
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Mar 9 2016, 23:25
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nec1986
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As i remember prof perk gives very small bonus. Its important for higher prof factor, but in turns/round its very tiny difference and price for that is very high. Something like 0,2-0,3 turns for each round. So at start its much better to invest in something else. 1. Completely skip. Something like 0,7 prof factor is only aim. Even 0,6 ll be ok and as i said usually difference is very small. 2. Additional cotton. Its ok for temporary use also. But more or less i d advise to use very good base stats. It might be expensive, but mage mostly isnt cheap. For 100k cotton we can spend iw, soulfuse, and maybe few millions on forge. After that salvage becomes also expensive, because we lose huge amount of credits and this way good starter item d be actually even cheaper than losing mats and doing few times stuff like iw for good final result. QUOTE(tayulog @ Mar 9 2016, 23:49)  Is it normal that the "proficiency capped at x2 your level" for a player is not capped on your character page?
If you i got you right then its mostly means elemental prof is wasted. Sure you can get higher, but bonus from prof is maxed even at lower threshold. This post has been edited by nec1986: Mar 9 2016, 23:28
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Mar 10 2016, 00:03
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Juggernaut Santa
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Mar 10 2016, 00:10
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Mar 9 2016, 23:03)  yep.
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Mar 10 2016, 00:52
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karyl123
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QUOTE(ppp82p @ Mar 10 2016, 00:14)  These could make some money in auction :v I sold slightly better ones at 1.1m and slightly worse ones at 400k (not same suffixes though). It's worth to try.
The breastplate is...free high grade leather I think. Even lv 200 non-power stuff is almost impossible to sell, I do not think that a lv 315 has more hope >.<
i see :v icon where is nobody_xxx scout him lol.
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Mar 10 2016, 02:45
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Dead-ed
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QUOTE(karyl123 @ Mar 9 2016, 16:52)  i see :v icon
where is nobody_xxx
scout him lol.
He's busy with his selfies.
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