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The real and simple reason is that supply is smaller than demand. Players will burn much more than 10 Stamina before they get one Energy Drink from dropped Artifacts, at least I do.

I think one of the main reasons why the ED price keeps going up is the fast clearing times with the current HV equipment. For a long time I could hardly understand why some people bought ED so much, when I couldn't even get my Stamina below 80 on most days. It would take several hours to clear that many rounds. Now I can play so much faster even on PFUDOR that it doesn't take too long to burn 10-20 Stamina.

That's a good point. Although lower level players have gotten pretty gimped recently, higher level players (the ones who care about stamina) with 0.82+ equipment can now clear moderately faster than they could in 0.81.

Though, I don't think the change was that drastic. (maybe some of what you're seeing for your own character is due to leveling up?)

Maybe, have more people started playing mage? Though, most high level players have been doing that for a long time anyway...

How many mages were active before the cursed patch? Melee players in wtb seems like eccentric collectors now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

Ninja'd ^

This post has been edited by Dead-ed: Mar 8 2016, 16:32

isnt this baneable ?

isnt this baneable ?

Why would it be?

That's a good point. Although lower level players have gotten pretty gimped recently, higher level players (the ones who care about stamina) with 0.82+ equipment can now clear moderately faster than they could in 0.81.

Though, I don't think the change was that drastic. (maybe some of what you're seeing for your own character is due to leveling up?)

Maybe, have more people started playing mage? Though, most high level players have been doing that for a long time anyway...

I was indeed comparing my clearing speed with better equipment (and higher level) rather than between different patches. For example my new 1H Power set is around 30% faster than my 1H Shade set I was using just couple levels ago. That makes a huge difference in Stamina burn rate.

I was about to write about mages becoming more popular and their clear times being extremely fast, but I don't want to always complain about mage vs. melee balancing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) To some degree it's true though, I bet many mages have no problems burning Stamina faster than their regen rate + ED drop is. I think same also applies to many melee players that have good equipment sets.

Why would it be?

looks like a bot but well could be legit too

looks like a bot but well could be legit too

Well, it can be a cause for concern, looking at his account he has no reason to want to sell gp.

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showuser=1297817

looks like a bot but well could be legit too

?????

1. upup offers 20k GP @ 198
2. over the next couple hours, a number of people decide to buy a bit of GP @ 198, and the transaction goes through
3. at 14:23, another seller (Thf772) places a sell order @ 197, and as he is now offering the lowest price, immediate buyers start buying from him instead

Speaking of GP, I'm still waiting for GP price to drop to ~175c. Never going to happen I guess (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I just realized that you can't get GP cheaper from anyone since GP exchange is the only way to buy it. I suppose Lotteries are keeping the GP price high, mostly because of the all Peerless change, but is there anything else that affects GP price?

I just lost 100k because I sold my hath for the wrong amount (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Speaking of GP, I'm still waiting for GP price to drop to ~175c. Never going to happen I guess (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I just realized that you can't get GP cheaper from anyone since GP exchange is the only way to buy it. I suppose Lotteries are keeping the GP price high, mostly because of the all Peerless change, but is there anything else that affects GP price?

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Yea, i think ed price was increased so much because few main changes:
1. Many ppl was close to 500 level and they made some kind of marathon. That was first and main step for upward direction.
2. Rerolling to mages. I think many ppl changed style and mage is the most stamina hungry style. Sometimes it can be 2+ ed/hour easily. So thats why its more or less keep currect state.
3. We have base economy with some amount of credits and items. Crystals was dropped, their places takes artifacts. For example long time ago i was doing hellfest instead arenas. It was easier with higher profit. So for 24 base stamina i got ~10 arti. After nerfs i completely ignored fest, so for same 24 stamina it was already only something around 5-6 arti. Its huge drop and ed gain was slowed down.

This post has been edited by nec1986: Mar 8 2016, 18:53

If I do pf fest or hell fest, at what price ED will have negative value? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
Please tell me income summary genie (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

So ED prizes up.
Crystal packs down.
Shields and shield upgrade bindings/modulators down.


What else??

You might want to consider trying 1h if you haven't already, in very few levels you'll start taking heavy incoming damage, which DW doesn't have the defense to withstand, or at least not comfortably.

But if you do want to play DW/heavy armor, try Str = Dex = End = Wis. Agi can be at ~8/10ths of your level, and Int at 6/10ths. Playstyle and individual equipment quality generally matters a lot more than PAB distribution, though.

well, right now I'm on lvl 150 and my stats are
182
131
131
167
0
161
and the problems come in play beginning from nintendo difficulty)
the only thing I can't get is how will intelligence help me?

So ED prizes up.
Crystal packs down.
Shields and shield upgrade bindings/modulators down.
What else??

amnesia is hard to drop now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

rapier is cheaper too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

So ED prizes up.
Crystal packs down.
Shields and shield upgrade bindings/modulators down.
What else??

actuators slightly down.
shade fragments less or more stable.
rubbish bindings are still rubbish

well, right now I'm on lvl 150 and my stats are
182
131
131
167
0
161
and the problems come in play beginning from nintendo difficulty)
the only thing I can't get is how will intelligence help me?

Nintendo sounds about right. But soon, that'll become next to impossible, and even Hell will likely force you to Cure annoyingly often. DW isn't defensive enough once you start fighting monsters with PL 1500+, at least not until the player is high level or has good forged gear.

More Int = more base spirit = more time in Spirit Stance before you have to use draught (or potion). The effect isn't large, but given the exponential distribution of PABs, it's nearly free.

Dex is as useful as Str, just like End. Don't have those three too far apart.

If I do pf fest or hell fest, at what price ED will have negative value? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
Please tell me income summary genie (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

For me, with maxed training:
Hellfest revenue: 340k
Repair costs: 6k
Unprofitable at: ED = 167k

Ninfest revenue: 370k (+ high-grade salvage (~1 per fest))
Repair costs: 6k
Unprofitable at: ED = 182k + a bit

PF-fest: I don't know, depends on if you complete it (which I don't) or, if you flee at a certain round, which round that is. It's somewhat variable. I haven't done enough to figure out revenue with a low margin of error, but I just did 300 rounds and got:
Revenue: 117k in 300 rounds (high-grade salvage not included)
Repair costs: 2k
Unprofitable at: ED = 192k

For those that flee early-ish, looks like PF-fest is barely better than Nin-fest due to crystals. Maybe I'll try completing PF-fest to see what the numbers are, but I'm pretty sure I can't...

(if anyone else completes PF-fest - it's easy as 1h but I don't have a set now - tell us your revenue and we can figure it out)

Even if I had very high stamina costs, I still can't come close to justifying any PF-fest, Nin-fest is slightly better than Hellfest, but both of those give some 18% more income per turn than PF-fest.

This post has been edited by Superlatanium: Mar 8 2016, 23:37

Nintendo sounds about right. But soon, that'll become next to impossible, and even Hell will likely force you to Cure annoyingly often. DW isn't defensive enough once you start fighting monsters with PL 1500+, at least not until the player is high level or has good forged gear.

More Int = more base spirit = more time in Spirit Stance before you have to use draught (or potion). The effect isn't large, but given the exponential distribution of PABs, it's nearly free.

Dex is as useful as Str, just like End. Don't have those three too far apart.

well, that will sound kinda disappointing to you, but I live on regen, protection, shadow veil and draughts) and use cure often enough, but still don't find anything bad about that