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post Mar 7 2016, 21:28
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Mar 7 2016, 19:09) *

No cooldown script ? no babysitter? counter plus?



The stat slim has cooldowns. Either slim again or the hoverplay has babysitter as well and ... yeah... counter plus... i tried to get one, but it was not compatible i guess, so i decided that i could do without for a bit and afterwards I didn't try again to get one.

Will try Fabulus's one tomorrow though and hope for the best.


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Does anyone else have the impression that in the new patch energy drinks will lose value? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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post Mar 7 2016, 23:18
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 7 2016, 10:02) *

use Mag Cotton armors and forge WIS and profs. forging them won't require HG Cloth until lv25 and meanwhile you may acquire them for 20k each - provided you already don't own them. no need for phazons and you will even be able to burn a lot of LGs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

as for staff, go for a staff of proficiency in what you want to boost.no need for it to be prefixed, or even Ethereal may work.

btw, which prof do you need to raise?

I want to raise Elem, Holy, and Dark. Do I really need to forge anything beside WIS while grinding profs? Maybe IW in hopes of getting capacitor for armor and penetrator / economizer for staff?
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post Mar 7 2016, 23:19
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QUOTE(Epion @ Mar 7 2016, 21:28) *

Does anyone else have the impression that in the new patch energy drinks will lose value? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


I hope amnesia shards will lose value (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Mar 7 2016, 23:42
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Mar 7 2016, 21:18) *

I want to raise Elem, Holy, and Dark. Do I really need to forge anything beside WIS while grinding profs? Maybe IW in hopes of getting capacitor for armor and penetrator / economizer for staff?

In my experience elem takes the longest, holy/dark spells cost so much mana that you can keep getting prof with T1 spells.
If you're just going for prof, use non-offensive armor, if you have some, with 1H (of nimble if possible) and a shield. This pushes your MP consumption up, but that's beneficial for prof grinding anyway. Then select a difficulty that you can (defensively) manage without problems and keep casting away. (try to keep your adb low, but shield will reduce incoming damage and make sure that the rounds don't last too long, so that you don't get oneshot once you go over like 600 turns)
For Elemental prof you can use the approach outlined above, or just get some cheap leg phase of element at auctions and just with it.
You don't need to forge anything for this, but be prepared to drink potions and draughts by the bucket-load.
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post Mar 8 2016, 00:00
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Can someone please tell me if this piece any good to auction or just trash: Legendary Zircon Phase Robe of Mjolnir?
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post Mar 8 2016, 00:03
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QUOTE(qberg @ Mar 7 2016, 22:00) *

Can someone please tell me if this piece any good to auction or just trash: Legendary Zircon Phase Robe of Mjolnir?


It's above average for spell damage. Maybe 100k?
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post Mar 8 2016, 00:05
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Thanks, safmy!
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post Mar 8 2016, 00:06
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Mar 7 2016, 22:18) *

I want to raise Elem, Holy, and Dark. Do I really need to forge anything beside WIS while grinding profs? Maybe IW in hopes of getting capacitor for armor and penetrator / economizer for staff?

in your shoes i'd forge WIS, AGI, Evade and prof. also, i would take a Crude item and go with IW. then keep spamming T1.
as for staffs, elemental and divine may be raised with oak. elemental and forbidden with willow. both of those have the side advantage to have boosted WIS.
no need to boost your EDB/MDB. you won't have so many difficulties with Crude IW, yet with low firepower you will have plenty of time to cast spells.

but mind you, i speak only by judging stats. not an expert of grinding prof at all (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

QUOTE(simrock87 @ Mar 7 2016, 22:42) *

with 1H (of nimble if possible) and a shield.

this qualifies as 1H style, which will quickly kill mobs anyways. if you really want to go through the melee route, i'd suggest a DW (shortsword/waki? double waki?) of battlecaster/nimble, to boost both Mana Conservation and Parry. or maybe shortsword of battlecaster/waki of nimble? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
as for armors, probably Shade of Arcanist to boost Magic ACC, Evade, DEX, AGI, END and WIS yet with low ITR. your EDB/MDB won't be boosted that much, yet you will retain a decent ADB firepower and defensive stats in case shit should happen. again, you don't need Leg armors. Mag are enough.

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post Mar 8 2016, 01:01
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What's the Lmax value for EDB on a elemental redwood of matching suffix/prefix, 36,76 or can it be higher?


Also, 50% mitigation reduction by prof factor= x2 damage to monsters, right?

If without EE I have 643 Elemental prof, prof factor = (643-338)/338 = 0,902 ==>mit reduction = (0.902^1.5)x50= 42,8

With EE I will have 643+(10%base prof=33) =676 prof factor = 1 ==>mit reduction =50

42.8/50=0.856 so with EE hath Perk I will have + 14.4% damage? (Making the 10% more damage from Dæmon Duality less op if I'm right)
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post Mar 8 2016, 01:17
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QUOTE(tayulog @ Mar 7 2016, 23:01) *

Also, 50% mitigation reduction by prof factor= x2 damage to monsters, right?

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Damage Taken = Original_Damage_Roll * (1 - MMI) * (1 - SMI)        | SMI = SMI * 0.5
Damage Taken = Original_Damage_Roll * (1 - MMI) * (1 - SMI * 0.5)  | Original_Damage_Roll * (1 - MMI) = c (since constant)
Damage Taken = c * (1 - SMI * 0.5)

So, you have to factor in SMI, if SMI = 0 you gain nothing, with SMI = 50 you gain +25% factor or + 50% absolute, with SMI = 100 you gain +50% factor where math breaks (since you go from 0% damage to 50% damage, but meh, maths) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Question: Do you lose damage if SMI < 0?

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post Mar 8 2016, 01:48
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How does one play a hybrid? I seem to have collected alot of arcanist shade gear but not really an idea of how to use it. If I went the 1h mage route, i would gear up with cloth armor anyway wouldn't I?

I'm not sure how hybrid works.
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post Mar 8 2016, 01:52
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QUOTE(safmy @ Mar 7 2016, 23:48) *
How does one play a hybrid? I seem to have collected alot of arcanist shade gear but not really an idea of how to use it. If I went the 1h mage route, i would gear up with cloth armor anyway wouldn't I?

I'm not sure how hybrid works.
You don't, it's not a style that's remotely useful for anyone who wants to play efficiently and has the ability to play melee or 1h mage or mage. With no EDB, Arcanist is useless for a mage-like playstyle. Arcanist is for those who want to sacrifice a lot of clear speed (melee) for a tiny bit in mana savings. Not worth it, in the current patch.
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post Mar 8 2016, 01:55
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Mar 7 2016, 23:52) *

You don't, it's not a style that's remotely useful for anyone who wants to play efficiently and has the ability to play melee or 1h mage or mage. With no EDB, Arcanist is useless for a mage-like playstyle. Arcanist is for those who want to sacrifice a lot of clear speed (melee) for a tiny bit in mana savings. Not worth it, in the current patch.


Damn shame. Is best niten style still slaughter/nimble for survivability and slaughter/balance for clear speed?
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post Mar 8 2016, 02:14
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QUOTE(safmy @ Mar 8 2016, 01:55) *

Damn shame. Is best niten style still slaughter/nimble for survivability and slaughter/balance for clear speed?


best niten style is 1H rapier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 8 2016, 02:17
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QUOTE(safmy @ Mar 7 2016, 23:55) *
Damn shame. Is best niten style still slaughter/nimble for survivability and slaughter/balance for clear speed?
Yep, those its situation is similar to Arcanist's - it's not anywhere close to efficient, given the other good styles that exist.
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post Mar 8 2016, 02:54
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QUOTE(safmy @ Mar 8 2016, 00:48) *

How does one play a hybrid? I seem to have collected alot of arcanist shade gear but not really an idea of how to use it. If I went the 1h mage route, i would gear up with cloth armor anyway wouldn't I?

Arcanist isn't actually a hybrid. it's only a melee who casts a lot of spells. only cases i know who can use it proficiently are Frederiksc (2H Mace + full Leg Savage of Arcanist) and brewdonkey (DW Axe/Club + full Leg of Arcanist). in particular, the former uses to cast a bunch of deprecatings, and needs Arcanist for both Mag Accuracy and MP Tank. as a side effect, SP Tank and MP Regen are heavily buffed.
we're still speaking about exotic combos though.

the actual hybrid is 1H mage: elemental 1H weapon + Shield + Phase armors. it has been reported to work by mozilla_browser, but still slower than full mage and harder than 1H Power. not very efficient, as latanium said. probably to use only for wannabe mages.
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post Mar 8 2016, 03:12
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 8 2016, 00:54) *

Arcanist isn't actually a hybrid. it's only a melee who casts a lot of spells. only cases i know who can use it proficiently are Frederiksc (2H Mace + full Leg Savage of Arcanist) and brewdonkey (DW Axe/Club + full Leg of Arcanist). in particular, the former uses to cast a bunch of deprecatings, and needs Arcanist for both Mag Accuracy and MP Tank. as a side effect, SP Tank and MP Regen are heavily buffed.
we're still speaking about exotic combos though.

the actual hybrid is 1H mage: elemental 1H weapon + Shield + Phase armors. it has been reported to work by mozilla_browser, but still slower than full mage and harder than 1H Power. not very efficient, as latanium said. probably to use only for wannabe mages.


I can appreciate the meta, I have a set of 1h and mage that does well. I just want to have fun now. But a calculated fun if I could put it that way.

I guess there's no better way to learn than to whack away and see what works.
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post Mar 8 2016, 03:32
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QUOTE(Epion @ Mar 7 2016, 19:28) *
Does anyone else have the impression that in the new patch energy drinks will lose value? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
Not likely, though not impossible.

The cause of the price doubling is the ~halved rate of ED from artifacts, which was probably intentional combined with introduction of the LGBD perk. Like many other changes with crystals, repair materials, etc, it's to get people to buy back what they already had so more people spend on hath sinks. A dick move, but that's the whole point of HV, so... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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post Mar 8 2016, 04:48
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Mar 8 2016, 05:19) *

I hope amnesia shards will lose value (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)


+1

My pre-0.81 supply of cheap shards are dwindling and soon I'l have to buy them at 20k a pop (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Mar 8 2016, 09:38
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I'm running Dual-wield fight style with heavy armor equipped, what stats should i be looking at?
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