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If I could get a random Legendary from the Shrine (eg, Tenbora's box), which category should I choose to maximise the item value (ignoring self-use)?

Clearly, we can drop Light, 2H, Shield right away. I think the value of even LERS is dropping these days, so drop that too? So is it between Staff, Cloth and Heavy? Which is best?

cloth is the best (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

staff , need to matching prefix and suffix (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

heavy , well nothing will sell alot except power slaughter or some savage balance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Just one question, how can I get shade fragments other then buying them? Do I dismantle pieces of shade armor?

Just one question, how can I get shade fragments other then buying them? Do I dismantle pieces of shade armor?

yes , but from your monster gift (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

nope , salvage only bring you mid/hg materials , scrap and energy cell (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)



unless that shade already been forging more than lvl 5 , you maybe will get shade fragment from it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

yes , but from your monster gift (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

nope , salvage only bring you mid/hg materials , scrap and energy cell (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
unless that shade already been forging more than lvl 5 , you maybe will get shade fragment from it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

ah k. Thanks for the info (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

cloth is the best (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

staff , need to matching prefix and suffix (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

heavy , well nothing will sell alot except power slaughter or some savage balance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I've gone about enumerating the various matching prefix/suffix that would be required to get 'valuable' equipment. My data seems to suggest staff is the best. Are my assumptions incorrect?

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I've gone about enumerating the various matching prefix/suffix that would be required to get 'valuable' equipment. My data seems to suggest staff is the best. Are my assumptions incorrect?

(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/BarW22q.png)

well , it up to you but chance we get troll in prefix/suffix with staff is higher than cloth for me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Mar 3 2016, 09:17

I've gone about enumerating the various matching prefix/suffix that would be required to get 'valuable' equipment. My data seems to suggest staff is the best. Are my assumptions incorrect?

(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/BarW22q.png)

You missed 'Elementalist', 'Heaven-sent', 'Demon-fiend' and 'Ethereal'.

The chance of LHOH should be [1/4 (oak) * 1/7 (hallowed) * 1/3 (heimdall)]

But your formula is 1/4 * 1/6 * 1/3 = 0.013889, right?


And I don't think all prefixes and suffixes have the same chance.

Slaughter and Balance are rarer than Protection and Warding.

This post has been edited by sssss2: Mar 3 2016, 09:28

Regulars here probably know that I like this thread because I like thinking and theorycrafting and analyzing numbers, so maybe one can see from that why I don't really like the existence of a mechanism letting a player completely disregard all that.

The truth is that you're a conspiracy theorist! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

The world is made of pink fluffy unicorns dancing on rainbows.

...

Really, though, this whole system looks like some sort of crafty social experiment. Looking at it that way you can't help but appreciate its pitfalls too.

I know I do.

There are not many "games" in the globe that has no remuneration factor in some way. Money is king, and that's because we made it king. But you're not wrong about the "unfairness" involved in that. If it were a level playing field, you could then decide who actually deserves to "win" according to their mental aptitude/physical prowess or whatever the game end goal is.

But the factor you missed there is time. How is it fair that someone that spent a small amount of time in the past could reap such a huge reward in the future. Some artwork like the mona lisa, for example, is just a bit of art, but it's value is compounded purely by the fact that it was the first of its kind in some way. If someone literally just now started the game, and spent the same amount of time you have thus far, he would not likely be in a better position in the coming future (asset wise or total earnings). And that's the advantage you have of being the first in anything. Not to say you are but the point stands.

But humans started in a level playing field at some point in time, and yet we managed to get kings/emperors/pharaohs or whatever. Greed is the fundamental flaw of human nature and gullibility. To that effect, all I care about is to short circuit my experience in this game to a point where I can be done with it. Sounds moot I know. But that's just how I function as an individual.

1. Pay to skip is not pay to win, most of the time...
2. You cant buy tokens
3. If new players spend the same time as old players, new players will have the advantage. Because old equips are trash. Also leveling is much easier now.

Yea, at least as i remember ethereal has in few times higher chance and all edb prefixes is equal. So its probably closer to 1/10 for all weapons.

Which pants should i use preferably? A EDB Pants or a prof pants? I'm having a hard time choosing between this and this.

Now that i have hit the lv 300 mark, what should i be focusing on? Fast leveling or should i proceed on to level slower but grind much more?

Which pants should i use preferably? A EDB Pants or a prof pants? I'm having a hard time choosing between this and this.

Now that i have hit the lv 300 mark, what should i be focusing on? Fast leveling or should i proceed on to level slower but grind much more?

Assuming you don't want to change any of your other gears, if you don't have a prof equip yet, use the prof pants. Otherwise, use the phase (for now).

You really want to get to 310 to see how well you do with 0-cooldown Imperil. Mage on interesting difficulties is pretty underwhelming before you get to that point.

Once you figure out how you're doing with Imperil you might look at your phase vs prof equips again. 4 phase + 1 prof is best for mitigation reduction if you use Imperil (higher difficulty), 3 phase + 2 prof is best if you don't use Imperil (lower difficulty).

Fast leveling or should i proceed on to level slower but grind much more?

There isn't a whole lot of difference (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Each comes with the other.

You missed 'Elementalist', 'Heaven-sent', 'Demon-fiend' and 'Ethereal'.

The chance of LHOH should be [1/4 (oak) * 1/7 (hallowed) * 1/3 (heimdall)]

But your formula is 1/4 * 1/6 * 1/3 = 0.013889, right?
And I don't think all prefixes and suffixes have the same chance.

Slaughter and Balance are rarer than Protection and Warding.

Thanks!

Yes, I missed Ethereal. Doh.

I omitted the proficiency suffix for staves as I figured they aren't worth enough to be considered 'valuable'. Same reason that I omitted the elemental prefix for cloth, because they are also becoming pretty inexpensive. (please call me out if this is wrong too)

I looked through my drop data (but only over a smallish number of samples) and didn't observe significant variance for the combinations that I checked. But good point on Slaughter & Balance vs Protection and Warding.

Yea, at least as i remember ethereal has in few times higher chance and all edb prefixes is equal. So its probably closer to 1/10 for all weapons.

My data doesn't show Ethereal being a few times higher chance. At most double and, at least for my drops, just slightly more than Shocking. I'll look again after getting more stats

This post has been edited by mozilla browser: Mar 3 2016, 10:16

Assuming you don't want to change any of your other gears, if you don't have a prof equip yet, use the prof pants. Otherwise, use the phase (for now).

You really want to get to 310 to see how well you do with 0-cooldown Imperil. Mage on interesting difficulties is pretty underwhelming before you get to that point.

Once you figure out how you're doing with Imperil you might look at your phase vs prof equips again. 4 phase + 1 prof is best for mitigation reduction if you use Imperil (higher difficulty), 3 phase + 2 prof is best if you don't use Imperil (lower difficulty).
There isn't a whole lot of difference (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Each comes with the other.

Thanks! I'm currently playing only Lv 100+ non SG arena on Nintendo, my clear rate is getting noticeably faster even with my previous Mag Staff and 4 Phase + 1 Prof set with the robe as the prof (i still remember taking 1 hour+ on TTT nightmare, now it's around 20~25 min on Nintendo).

My data doesn't show Ethereal being a few times higher chance. At most double and, at least for my drops, just slightly more than Shocking. I'll look again after getting more stats

Thats info from wiki, so i dont know is it correct. Let me see...
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Prefixes
Chances at the end.

as a new player should i soulfuse any equipment early on so im not stuck with a lvl 5 weapon for 200+ lvls? because everything in the bazaar is either low avrage stuff or needs really high lvls to use.

Thanks!

Yes, I missed Ethereal. Doh.

I omitted the proficiency suffix for staves as I figured they aren't worth enough to be considered 'valuable'. Same reason that I omitted the elemental prefix for cloth, because they are also becoming pretty inexpensive. (please call me out if this is wrong too)

I looked through my drop data (but only over a smallish number of samples) and didn't observe significant variance for the combinations that I checked. But good point on Slaughter & Balance vs Protection and Warding.
My data doesn't show Ethereal being a few times higher chance. At most double and, at least for my drops, just slightly more than Shocking. I'll look again after getting more stats

Katalox of prof with 4+1 has the highest magic score in theory. But actually any staff are fine for no imp.

oh i also have another question: all the armor abilities say "when using only _____ armor" does that mean i lose all those bonuses if i put a different type of armor on any slot? and if so it it worth losing those to have better defense?

This post has been edited by Dimerunner13: Mar 3 2016, 11:06

as a new player should i soulfuse any equipment early on so im not stuck with a lvl 5 weapon for 200+ lvls? because everything in the bazaar is either low avrage stuff or needs really high lvls to use.

No, save your fragments until you are higher level, you should really only soulfuse equipment with Magnificent Quality and above with decent "base", surviving with average equipment below level 100 is possible.

oh i also have another question: all the armor abilities say "when using only _____ armor" does that mean i lose all those bonuses if i put a different type of armor on any slot? and if so it it worth losing those to have better defense?

Not worthwhile to lose it. So, you will always wear all-cloth (cotton/phase), all-light (leather/shade), or all-heavy (plate/power) armor.

Thats info from wiki, so i dont know is it correct. Let me see...
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Prefixes
Chances at the end.

Roger that... read the article yet missed it!

But the numbers don't add up. 30% + 6 * 10% = 90%.

Katalox of prof with 4+1 has the highest magic score in theory. But actually any staff are fine for no imp.

Hmm. Is anyone really using it? Does this build require 5 x radiant phase?



This is all very interesting but I'm digressing from my original intent, which was to figure out which shrine option is most likely to produce something valuable. Hmm..

This post has been edited by mozilla browser: Mar 3 2016, 11:10