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post Mar 2 2016, 03:15
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QUOTE(formigao @ Mar 2 2016, 01:49) *

how can IW for me cheap ?

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=71ded3b60d

just want lvl 10

why IW10 a shield? you will only achieve bonus mitigations (which aren't very useful anyways), so is it for this reason? or to rename it? if it's for mitigations, then Fire is already a good point. aim for a few levels of Holy at the start (so they will also be easier to reach) and then be happy. if you want to rename it, it's only a trap.
and if you want to do it for cheap, soulfuse it as soon as you reach Holyproof - but you won't be able to resort to external IW services anymore

QUOTE(piyin @ Mar 2 2016, 01:56) *

- Is there any formulas i can use on excel or any data sheet that can make know if any equipment is good or a piece of garbage?

the same... but i think there are scripts that do this... i dont want scrips... well not because i dont know how they work.. but until the first part about my browser being slow is solved... im gonna keep the stuff working at the least to make it faster... so, are there any formulas? and if the asnwer is yes... is there a thread, tutorial, page about them?

Any info will be Rewarded.

if i was in your shoes, i'd do a simple linear interpolation on such particular range: in other words, once you know - just saying - Lmin and Lmax rolls (provided they are accurate enough), you want to know roughly where your own roll resides. since you will pick Lmin and Lmax as thresholds, 0% will mean roll = Lmin and 100% = Lmax.
roll < 0% or roll > 100% will simply mean that wiki isn't accurate enough. new ranges? insufficent datas? whatever the reason may be.

let's put a few numbers and consider ADB on Magnificent Axe of Slaughter: ADB = 62.77, where Mmin = 62.69 and MMax = 69.44.
you can already say it's quite low, but let's prove it:

maximum delta is: 69.44 - 62.69 = 6.75
our actual delta is: 62.77 - 62.69 = 0.08 (referred to Mmin)
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delta ratio is: 0.08/6.75 = 0.012 = 1.2% - on the lowest side of M range, as we had already guessed (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 2 2016, 03:30
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Mar 2 2016, 02:06) *

Mmm....she's responsible for most of the "in memory of" monsters which you frequently encounter in HV.

is it a she? that's news to me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

but everyone (me included (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ) may wear a D behind a monitor, so regardless of this, G indeed created all the "in memory of dark mages" series. which - apart for the obvious annoyance in reading them, they were quite hard to deal with: they were all heavily-chaosed Arthropods or Giants, and back then there wasn't any limitation on mobs who could appear on battles. it wasn't rare to see more than one of them at once. record was 7 or so, iirc. furthermore you could only wear a limited amount of potions, so they were very resilient AND you had little time to deal with them.
most likely he did a shitton of credits with them - not sure he raised in that period funds to purchase Catgirl status, but it may be.

then, after many complaints, 0.81 patch came, which is less or more the current situation: limits on class, limits on how many mobs from the same trainer, blah blah.
among the other things he claimed to be poor and unleashed a horde of "in memorabilia of dark sage". many of the "i fear" series are created by G as well.

just FYI, [hvlist.niblseed.com] these are only those we are sure about. the likes of him/her/it surely has other 60 hidden somewhere.


this in recent times. in older times, he was (and still is, afaik) a Dark Mage and claimed about how strong this style was - to the point that Tenboro heavily nerfed them. the event lead to the above mentioned "in memory of" mobs.
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post Mar 2 2016, 03:46
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 2 2016, 09:30) *

is it a she? that's news to me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


No, It's just a mental image because of the Reimu avatar and I find that he talks like Reimu sometimes.


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post Mar 2 2016, 03:56
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Mar 2 2016, 02:46) *

No, It's just a mental image because of the Reimu avatar and I find that he talks like Reimu sometimes.

ah, alright then
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post Mar 2 2016, 03:58
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Woot! Answers... and now... Another one!

Dæmon Duality damage upgrade: shows only on battle or in the char stats?

just got it... and my damage is the same in the char stats... so?

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post Mar 2 2016, 04:20
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Is this thing crap?
I think so, but let me know.
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post Mar 2 2016, 04:32
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QUOTE(piyin @ Mar 2 2016, 01:58) *
Woot! Answers... and now... Another one!

Dæmon Duality damage upgrade: shows only on battle or in the char stats?

just got it... and my damage is the same in the char stats... so?
Only in battle. We have to trust that the code is correct...
QUOTE(ppp82p @ Mar 2 2016, 02:20) *
Is this thing crap?
I think so, but let me know.
Yep. If the suffix was good (Heimdall, Heaven-sent), then it might have been worth a little despite bad prefix, but Focus just isn't good enough.
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post Mar 2 2016, 05:45
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 1 2016, 22:15) *

why IW10 a shield? you will only achieve bonus mitigations (which aren't very useful anyways), so is it for this reason? or to rename it? if it's for mitigations, then Fire is already a good point. aim for a few levels of Holy at the start (so they will also be easier to reach) and then be happy. if you want to rename it, it's only a trap.
and if you want to do it for cheap, soulfuse it as soon as you reach Holyproof - but you won't be able to resort to external IW services anymore
if i was in your shoes, i'd do a simple linear interpolation on such particular range: in other words, once you know - just saying - Lmin and Lmax rolls (provided they are accurate enough), you want to know roughly where your own roll resides. since you will pick Lmin and Lmax as thresholds, 0% will mean roll = Lmin and 100% = Lmax.
roll < 0% or roll > 100% will simply mean that wiki isn't accurate enough. new ranges? insufficent datas? whatever the reason may be.

let's put a few numbers and consider ADB on Magnificent Axe of Slaughter: ADB = 62.77, where Mmin = 62.69 and MMax = 69.44.
you can already say it's quite low, but let's prove it:

maximum delta is: 69.44 - 62.69 = 6.75
our actual delta is: 62.77 - 62.69 = 0.08 (referred to Mmin)
------------------------------------------------
delta ratio is: 0.08/6.75 = 0.012 = 1.2% - on the lowest side of M range, as we had already guessed (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


i'm taking too much damage, so i was thinking if it was worth to put a extra reduction on the shield.

why you said to go holy mitigation ?
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post Mar 2 2016, 06:38
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How do people clear the 100+ round item worlds and arenas? I find that around the 80 round mark I have used all my potions and have no mana. If luck is with me I can continue for a bit longer but I usually die quite soon after that. My stats are pretty much well rounded and I'm using shadow armour and 1h + shield because the gear I picked up led me that way. I hear everyone saying that i should be using power armour with slaughter mods but does it really make that much of a difference?

Oh, and this was on easy. Can't even imagine doing it on a higher difficulty right now. I would die around round 60

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post Mar 2 2016, 06:45
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QUOTE(liddlemicky @ Mar 2 2016, 06:38) *

How do people clear the 100+ round item worlds and arenas? I find that around the 80 round mark I have used all my potions and have no mana. If luck is with me I can continue for a bit longer but I usually die quite soon after that. My stats are pretty much well rounded and I'm using shadow armour and 1h + shield because the gear I picked up led me that way. I hear everyone saying that i should be using power armour with slaughter mods but does it really make that much of a difference?

Oh, and this was on easy. Can't even imagine doing it on a higher difficulty right now. I would die around round 60


have you train your abilities?
have you try 1 handed style?
have you go to freeshop?
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post Mar 2 2016, 07:47
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QUOTE(liddlemicky @ Mar 2 2016, 11:38) *

How do people clear the 100+ round item worlds and arenas? I find that around the 80 round mark I have used all my potions and have no mana. If luck is with me I can continue for a bit longer but I usually die quite soon after that. My stats are pretty much well rounded and I'm using shadow armour and 1h + shield because the gear I picked up led me that way. I hear everyone saying that i should be using power armour with slaughter mods but does it really make that much of a difference?

Oh, and this was on easy. Can't even imagine doing it on a higher difficulty right now. I would die around round 60

you maybe need to change your gears into better grade (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Mar 2 2016, 08:05
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QUOTE(liddlemicky @ Mar 2 2016, 13:38) *

How do people clear the 100+ round item worlds and arenas? I find that around the 80 round mark I have used all my potions and have no mana. If luck is with me I can continue for a bit longer but I usually die quite soon after that. My stats are pretty much well rounded and I'm using shadow armour and 1h + shield because the gear I picked up led me that way. I hear everyone saying that i should be using power armour with slaughter mods but does it really make that much of a difference?

Oh, and this was on easy. Can't even imagine doing it on a higher difficulty right now. I would die around round 60


Power ADB > Shade ADB
Counter-Attack
Another proc that can be triggered: a Counter-Attack on an enemy whose attack has been blocked or parried.
A successful counter will add 5-10% of Overcharge, but only once per turn.
NOT INCLUDE EVADE

Stronger Spirit
Decreases the amount of damage required for SP shield to kick in.
Level 265 4 AP damage=25%
Level 285 5 AP damage=20%
You'll need at least 4 AP SS
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post Mar 2 2016, 08:13
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QUOTE(liddlemicky @ Mar 2 2016, 04:38) *
How do people clear the 100+ round item worlds and arenas? I find that around the 80 round mark I have used all my potions and have no mana. If luck is with me I can continue for a bit longer but I usually die quite soon after that. My stats are pretty much well rounded and I'm using shadow armour and 1h + shield because the gear I picked up led me that way. I hear everyone saying that i should be using power armour with slaughter mods but does it really make that much of a difference?

Oh, and this was on easy. Can't even imagine doing it on a higher difficulty right now. I would die around round 60
(*) How good are your gears? Are they close to your level? If not, that's the problem. If you don't have a rapier in mainhand, try it, it'll significantly increase your clear speed when tough monsters are spawned.
(*) Shade armor has 0 piercing mitigation, and nearly half of all monsters do piercing damage. There's a decent chance that's the source of your mana troubles. At level 244, leather works fine, and Power works as well if you can find a few ~Mag-quality Power (so you're using only a couple Plate or less). Past level ~260 you'll very likely be best off switching towards Power anyway. (Don't worry about Power Slaughter if you can't find it, it's very pricey and not necessary, yet.)
(*) Players gain innate tankyness from leveling up. It's not unusual for lower level players to have problems with long tough battle series, though I'd have thought someone would at least have been able to handle Normal. You say you run out of mana - you use both potions and elixirs and find yourself close to 0 with both of them on cooldown? That sounds very strange, you should have more than enough...
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post Mar 2 2016, 08:41
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Thank you all for your answers to my earlier question.

Now: I just saw a Superior Dagger of Swiftness (or something similar) in the equipment shop for a moment before it was snatched up. What did I just see. (E.g., the wiki implies the game has no daggers.)
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post Mar 2 2016, 08:43
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Thank you all for your answers to my earlier question.

Now: I just saw a Superior Dagger of Swiftness (or something similar) in the equipment shop for a moment before it was snatched up. What did I just see. (E.g., the wiki implies the game has no daggers.)

old item from somebody inventory (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Mar 2 2016, 10:05
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Thanks for explanation about G, everyone! ^^
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No, It's just a mental image because of the Reimu avatar and I find that he talks like Reimu sometimes.

Thats a weird... o_o
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How do people clear the 100+ round item worlds and arenas? I find that around the 80 round mark I have used all my potions and have no mana. If luck is with me I can continue for a bit longer but I usually die quite soon after that. My stats are pretty much well rounded and I'm using shadow armor and 1h + shield because the gear I picked up led me that way. I hear everyone saying that i should be using power armor with slaughter mods but does it really make that much of a difference?
Oh, and this was on easy. Can't even imagine doing it on a higher difficulty right now. I would die around round 60

Practice makes perfect. Power up your equips, speed time to training, forging, soulfusing, e.t.c.
Around two weeks ago I was unable to beat all arenas on IWBTH and PFUDOR difficulty, did only Nintendo. For current situation I can beat all arenas on IWBTH easily (except last one, never tried). So, yes as everyone said above - check your gears and build.
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I hear everyone saying that i should be using power armour with slaughter mods but does it really make that much of a difference?

Actually, yes. There is plate-equips and power-equips. Both are heavy armor, but power ones give you a great boost in attack power. If you got all 5 pieces of equip with power tag in it - you will get solid attack boost around ~1000-2000, I guess.
If you will find power-equips with slaughter - it is even greater, because slaughter suffix give you a even more damage boost.
If you have build, that stack on physical damage on your enemies - I think heavy armor + power tag + slaughter suffix is better solution for you. But, lets be honest, - to find this kind of equip very hard. I have only one power + slaughter, other are power + protection, power + warding, e.t.c.
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One day I have seen some obsolete equip in bazaar. Something about dragon. Dragon-hide?
One time I have even bought fine-quality equip, before I knew that is obsolete equip. ^^

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post Mar 2 2016, 13:05
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QUOTE(formigao @ Mar 2 2016, 04:45) *

why you said to go holy mitigation ?

because it's one of the most useful. Holy attacks are used by Celestials and Sprites, and at your level they tend to hit pretty bad.

QUOTE(f4tal @ Mar 2 2016, 09:05) *

One day I have seen some obsolete equip in bazaar. Something about dragon. Dragon-hide?

yep, it's possible.
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post Mar 2 2016, 14:49
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scremaz has tons of obsolete gear. check his auction
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post Mar 2 2016, 16:01
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So in the obsolete items list I see several items listed as drops in past Easter events. Can someone elucidate me on this, since I assume there'll be another one this year? I'm guessing you basically get random drops of special Easter items, but what's the time range they drop in - just the Friday to Monday?, are they one drop per item per person or potentially unlimited, and what was the general drop rate in the past?
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post Mar 2 2016, 16:15
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Is this worth anything?
And if not, what can I do with it? Salvage?

How close to max does an item's stats need to be to be valuable?
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