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post Mar 1 2016, 17:00
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Is Innate Arcane V worth it?

I mean for 1h I can imagine it's not since you don't want the evasion. But for mage?
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post Mar 1 2016, 17:03
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Why is ED not sold in the item shop?

Ohh! The fact that bother me is slightly different - why chaos tokens and blood tokens not sold in the shop?
In my opinion is better to sell this tokens, not soul one.
Actually, I never buy a single one soul fragment from shop, because farming on them everyday from RE not so hard.
But I maybe interested to buy 1 blood token if they will costs around 10,000. Because sometime I get 9 of them and would like to get 1 more to play hardest blood rind, because tomorrow I can get one more with a good luck.
Or I can buy one more chaos token to level up my monsters... =)
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post Mar 1 2016, 17:10
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QUOTE(safmy @ Mar 1 2016, 16:00) *

Is Innate Arcane V worth it?

I mean for 1h I can imagine it's not since you don't want the evasion. But for mage?

maybe only for high-level lazy mages. personally i wouldn't use it even as DWer. also, less spells to cast means less chances for channelling. you should cast Heartseeker/Arcane Focus by hand most of times, and without 50%-boost duration it will be even shorter. worth it, apart for the 1kH cost? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Mar 1 2016, 17:15
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Mar 1 2016, 16:03) *

Ohh! The fact that bother me is slightly different - why chaos tokens and blood tokens not sold in the shop?
In my opinion is better to sell this tokens, not soul one.
Actually, I never buy a single one soul fragment from shop, because farming on them everyday from RE not so hard.
But I maybe interested to buy 1 blood token if they will costs around 10,000. Because sometime I get 9 of them and would like to get 1 more to play hardest blood rind, because tomorrow I can get one more with a good luck.
Or I can buy one more chaos token to level up my monsters... =)

no, you definitely don't want for Chaos Tokens to be sold in shops. for two reasons:
  1. a game worth this name HAS to have something reachable only by playing. special rewards, achievements, image gallery, free boobs... in HV case, Tokens and a handful of other things like Godslayer/Dovahkiin titles.
  2. if Tokens were purchaseab... purchasab... whatever - if everybody were able to purchase Tokens with mere credits, those with huge funds (Hath barons, just because they are bandwagons and the Evil personified) will build Monster Labs with even more overwhelming power, isn't it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


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post Mar 1 2016, 17:32
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maybe only for high-level lazy mages. personally i wouldn't use it even as DWer. also, less spells to cast means less chances for channelling. you should cast Heartseeker/Arcane Focus by hand most of times, and without 50%-boost duration it will be even shorter. worth it, apart for the 1kH cost?


Totally forgot about channelling effects, good point. Are gems affected by casting or is that random? I didn't know I could cast HS or AF by any other means other than by hand? Not to mention the IA only covers protection,spark of life, spirit shield, shadow veil and haste? Have I missed a trick here?
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post Mar 1 2016, 17:44
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Totally forgot about channelling effects, good point. Are gems affected by casting or is that random? I didn't know I could cast HS or AF by any other means other than by hand? Not to mention the IA only covers protection,spark of life, spirit shield, shadow veil and haste? Have I missed a trick here?

yep, indeed IA covers only those five spells. and - even if nobody knows the actual formula - we are pretty sure that chance for a Channelling effect to happend depends on the cost of the spell you casted. therefore, the more expensive the spell you cast and the higher the number of spells to cast, the higher the chance to have a Channelling which you can use for very expensive spells like Heartseeker of Arcane Focus.

for example, when i cast a Regen with 1H style and without Spirit Stance on, i'm almost sure a Channelling for Heartseeker will happen. high (but lower) chances also for Regen with 1H and no SS or Regen with DW.
having the need to cast one less spell means also less rooms for Channelling. do your tests, but personally i'm willing to gamble on this chance to reduce mana usage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[edit]: oh, gems are random afaik. it's only the 5-turns effect that can be somehow stimulated

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post Mar 1 2016, 17:51
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will build Monster Labs with even more overwhelming power, isn't it?

Just make it costs 100.000 xD

Yeah, I have got your point. You know, I never thought about "using features in bad ways", I am trying to find good way for things, but yeah someone may use it in speculative way, I agreed.
I just have 9 blood tokens and beat all arenas... I really would like to buy one more to complete last RoB today >_>
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post Mar 1 2016, 18:27
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Mar 1 2016, 16:51) *

Just make it costs 100.000 xD

then all the people who only genuinely needed one or two would be bankrupt. rather, make their prices grow pretty much with the number of tokens already purchased. pretty much like trainings.

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Yeah, I have got your point. You know, I never thought about "using features in bad ways", I am trying to find good way for things, but yeah someone may use it in speculative way, I agreed.

uhu. back then Monster Lab was seriously abused by certain trolls like G, so we all understood the lesson. he's still trolling a bit, btw. should Tokens be actually sold at his price, even the likes of me could build a 200-mobs lab

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I just have 9 blood tokens and beat all arenas... I really would like to buy one more to complete last RoB today >_>

in your shoes i'd do SGs at Hard difficulty to end it quckly, all the rest at Hell for the 1k round penalty and RoBs at PF for drop rolls. i did it for two days and was able to unlock two more slots. but extremely boring, tbh (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Mar 1 2016, 19:00
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trolls like G,

Never heard about him. What he have done and doing?
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SGs at Hard difficulty to end it quckly, all the rest at Hell

SGs is defiantly should be hell or hard difficulty, because they are so time consuming on harder difficulty... I am doing on hell, because on lower difficulty there is no chance to get LEG equip (Lets forget about PEER >_>) and crude/fair equips on lower drop rate.

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but extremely boring, tbh

Thanks God I have the work where I can play all working time without any harm at all ^^
But, yeah, it is boring...
I don't even know how to play this game without scripts like reloader or mousemelle/hoverplay/spellspam... (Yeah, in that dark times xD). They are really timersaver.

Bytheway, thanks everyone scripter here, who makes our gamelife a little easier ^^

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post Mar 1 2016, 21:39
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Mar 1 2016, 15:51) *

I really would like to buy one more to complete last RoB today >_>



Greatest mistake i feel like i made in this game was leveling up so fast. If i could go back to level 330 and be stack there i gladly would (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Remember your goal. The boobs... err... i mean dat as.... ahem... sorry i was talking about those infinite legs... ... ... ok i think i'll better shut up (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Mar 1 2016, 22:11
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Greatest mistake i feel like i made in this game was leveling up so fast.

Actually I think that leveling in this game fast is not necessary. When player got 500 level there is just nothing to do next. Tenboro should add "next game+" option to reset player's level and stats, but save all equips, money, training and ability. This will be good...
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post Mar 1 2016, 22:57
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QUOTE(safmy @ Mar 1 2016, 15:00) *
Is Innate Arcane V worth it?

I mean for 1h I can imagine it's not since you don't want the evasion. But for mage?
It's only even an option if someone has pretty much nothing to do with their funds but throw them away, and even then it's a bad option. Even Æsahættr is better.
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post Mar 1 2016, 23:27
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Remember your goal. The boobs... err... i mean dat as.... ahem... sorry i was talking about those infinite legs... ... ... ok i think i'll better shut up (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

you know, i guess your buddies are a bit too perverted (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Mar 1 2016, 23:58
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Mar 2 2016, 04:11) *

Actually I think that leveling in this game fast is not necessary. When player got 500 level there is just nothing to do next. Tenboro should add "next game+" option to reset player's level and stats, but save all equips, money, training and ability. This will be good...

High level gives you high defense and its very important in grindfest. Also you want to be at least level 400 to soulfuse everything.
For things to do I dont know you can train monsters?
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post Mar 2 2016, 02:24
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Good for an auction or the trash can?

[GS-Phase-0]Legendary Jade Phase Gloves of Heimdall(442)

so?
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post Mar 2 2016, 02:36
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Good for an auction or the trash can?

[GS-Phase-0]Legendary Jade Phase Gloves of Heimdall(442)

so?


Heimdall + ok EDB.
Maybe 50-200k worth?
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post Mar 2 2016, 02:49
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how can IW for me cheap ?

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=71ded3b60d

just want lvl 10
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post Mar 2 2016, 02:56
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Mar 2 2016, 02:36) *

Heimdall + ok EDB.
Maybe 50-200k worth?


Kinda to make it act as a filler in any auction... not bad...

Well that one... NOW... i wanna know if

-Is there is any kind of tutorial to make my browser faster whn playing HV?

Yep... kinda late to ask this, but i need to know if there is a tutorial to set correct my browser so i can lay it the fast and furious as i want it to run... right now im using Chrome... also have FF... and lastlymy old IE...so... is there a good tutorial or just the stuff in the wikki (kinda doesnt work or sometimes becomes difficult to handle).

- Is there any formulas i can use on excel or any data sheet that can make know if any equipment is good or a piece of garbage?

the same... but i think there are scripts that do this... i dont want scrips... well not because i dont know how they work.. but until the first part about my browser being slow is solved... im gonna keep the stuff working at the least to make it faster... so, are there any formulas? and if the asnwer is yes... is there a thread, tutorial, page about them?

Any info will be Rewarded.
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post Mar 2 2016, 02:57
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QUOTE(formigao @ Mar 2 2016, 02:49) *

how can IW for me cheap ?

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=71ded3b60d

just want lvl 10


I think is WHO not how... doesnt?
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post Mar 2 2016, 03:06
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Never heard about him. What he have done and doing?


Mmm....she's responsible for most of the "in memory of" monsters which you frequently encounter in HV.
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