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Buktore, you reminded me how far behind my proficiencies are lagging, as well as all the times mid-way through an arena i yell out "NO DON'T LEVEL ME YET", and have convinced me to redistribute all my exp tank points to put them to better use.

However, i already quit niten months ago. Niten is fun as hell, but no prof just kept hurting. I hope for some kind of specific prof for it soon too, so i can go back to it.

Try to use search in this thread, my boy

Getting a lot of "why" to do it but nothing on "how" it works. The only way a new player would ever realize this is accidentally stumbling on those bits of info.

Personally I'm in a good place with damage, and 8 points to max out one OC is just too expensive at the moment when I need those for health. Not trying to actively grind either. Just Arenas, a Grindfest or two a day (maximum round 50) and Token of Blood if any.

Getting a lot of "why" to do it but nothing on "how" it works. The only way a new player would ever realize this is accidentally stumbling on those bits of info.

Here
And it's just 1-2 days ago. That's why I suggest you to search that.

This post has been edited by varst: Aug 30 2011, 19:40

I should be more clear with what I write.

There is nothing in the ability text itself to suggest it would give a melee boost. The only way to find that out is to discover or be told the information you linked.

I've done this since lv.20 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Which is almost 2 years ago...

I don't understand why people wanted to leveling so fast in this game since the game clearly doesn't designed to be play at above lv.100 ... Some don't even cared if their character are any good as long as they can gain their lv fast (razorflame is a good example). I've even deliberately slow-down my exp gain in the past so that my prof and gears can catch up to my lv.

I think I read somewhere that proficiency gain rate slows when it comes closer to your level. If that is the case then wouldn't it make more sense and be faster to gain levels now and focus on gaining proficiency later?
Also, higher levels mean higher level equipment drops, no? Higher level equipment drops -> sell for more money -> you can buy better equip for yourself with that money.
I would also guess that higher arena challenges bring more money.

I'm not saying that I don't see your point and that I know what it's like above 200, but the advantages of the higher levels seem to outweigh the disadvantages.

I should be more clear with what I write.

There is nothing in the ability text itself to suggest it would give a melee boost. The only way to find that out is to discover or be told the information you linked.

Um...well....you know....we're not the ones who write those ability text, right? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
And we only know that about 3 months ago.
With the always-looming-but-never-happen overcharge rewrite, I don't think Tenb has any plan to rewrite that ability text...

@ Madican

Most of the tooltips in HV are either misleading, confusing, lacking, or seem to be just wrong for most player... Tenb (HV creator) did this on purpose; he did it for teh lulz.

@ roadgray

What you said is, of course, perfectly logical and 100% correct. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

The way you described it is basically the logical strategy of 'get high number to gain even higher number' that dominated real world societies and, of course, HV as well. ... You'll be able to 'progress' fast in HV, sure. But it make the game very boring to play that way since there nothing to be gain at high lv. except for higher 'numbers'.

This is not my goal. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


EDIT:: typo

This post has been edited by buktore: Aug 30 2011, 20:32

@ roadgray

What you said is, of course, perfectly logical and 100% correct. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

The way you described it is basically the logical strategy of 'get high number to gain even higher number' that dominated real world societies and, of course, HV as well. ... You'll be able to 'progress' fast in HV, sure. But it make the game very boring to play that way since there nothing to be gain at high lv. except for higher 'numbers'.

This is not my goal. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Alright, thank you. That made your point much clearer.

If that is the case then wouldn't it make more sense and be faster to gain levels now and focus on gaining proficiency later?

Keep in mind that the longer you wait, the longer it's gonna take to bring them up to your level.
I speak from experience. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by (Cheater) Tiap: Aug 30 2011, 20:55

I'm surprised Tenboro doesn't just insert himself as an unbeatable mob since he likes messing with the players so much.

I am a melee person.

Another F*cker speaking from experience.
Your proficiencies raise a lot faster when they are low compared to your level.
When you got any buff on autocast, you can forget about levelin up Supportive.
Curative raises annoyingly slow if you use Regen2 to stay alive, but that didn't bother me.
Now it's maxed without using RG1 to train some more.
When you reach those arenas that has a lot of legendaries in them, that's when you will want to use dualwielding.
Just doing those with DW will max that skill up nicely.
The best technique at the moment at my opinion is to use an ethereal estoc while fighting non-legendary arenas. For your daily combat.
Yup I use ethereal estoc in the lvl 300 arena, because there's 3 legendaries in a round.
Before then, dualwield leggies.
For mages ... wtf is a mage ?
There is one thing you need to train because you don't really use it.
That is deprecating proficiency.
Best way is to cast Weaken in Cake battle on a mob, use all the mana potions you got and do it again.
When you can't raise proficiency by a full 1 by the time you've used all your potions, stop.
After you get Spirit Shield, you can forget all about Silence and deprecating proficiency...
That is untill the devil himself releases another patch, nerfing spirit shield in some way.
You know it's coming.

The best armor used to be priestess + earth-walker.
Now Priestess suxxors and earth-walker is completely useless.
The master must be reading the tips I write, that's so friggin mean.
Right now, there's no right choice between armors.
Priestess is the worst when it comes to surviving the longest, but uses least mana.
Light and Shade armor are at equal terms.
Heavy armor is the best for surviving, but the mana drain makes it impossible to use in long fights.
At the moment, I use Shade armor for damage boost in order to clear fights fast.
I use Light armor to live a little bit longer, but no damage boost means that fights take longer.
One thing most important here....
Damage mitigation in percentage is much more important that simply reducing damage by absorbing it.
Shield spell makes a big difference.
Experiments show that this is the order of importance of buffs.
1) Shield
2) Haste
3) Shadow Veil

Depending on the equipment you wear, you will either, fight slower, fight faster and attack with more power, live long and run out of mana.
My personal favorite is using shade armor with Haste+Shield+Shadow Veil+Spirit Shield.
All of them are on autocast.
With light armor I can live a bit longer and the fights take longer.
The most credits I can make in grindfest goes like this:
Equipping heavy armor with heavy mitigation percentage, autocasting Shield+Haste....
Using Regen 1 until I actually take damage, then switch to regen2 to live.

For troublefree operation, try wearing light armor or shade armor with a 2 handed weapon.
Not Mace no no no !
Even if your mace is a good ethereal one, it's still the slowest thing after a turtle raping snail.
If you choose shade armor (rare stuff), you'll want to select the one that has high percentage mitigation instead of more damage increase.

That's a bit much to take in.
You'll be happiest with light armor with high mitigation.
Using spells Haste+Shield
Third optional spell: Shadow veil.
To stay alive Regen2.

This post has been edited by Bunko: Aug 30 2011, 22:56

I'm surprised Tenboro doesn't just insert himself as an unbeatable mob since he likes messing with the players so much.

Oh you just freaking HAD to give him an idea, dontcha?!

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/monsterlist.php

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Special Attack = Soul Crushing Nerf

I am loving kevlar gear atm. I still get one shotted by elemental attacks (1.7k crits ftw) but at least I'm not getting smushed by giants anymore (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Wondering if I should start saving my Trophies until I'm higher level so when I get the gear it's viable for wearing or selling.

Hax. Ask Hito how to get it.

Huh? You get hax by not using melee to begin with.


Spawned Monster D: MID=23 (Yuki Nagato) LV=342 HP=291720

Banish blasts Yuki Nagato for 115306 holy damage

This post has been edited by hitokiri84: Aug 31 2011, 05:10

How did you get that damage? Full Heimdall?

How did you get that damage?

Hax.

Tomato tomahto.