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Feb 26 2016, 17:41
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(cichy133 @ Feb 26 2016, 16:39)  It has 16,82 edb and max edb on wiki is 16,92 so it's close to old peerless I guess?
0.82 peerless is 16.97. I would not sell it for less than 400-500k.
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Feb 26 2016, 17:43
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f4tal
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Thanks for explanation, Epion! I am still think Godslayer is way better and even with this stun ability, Dovahkiin has no potency... >_> QUOTE If you check the display title in the forum next to the level you will se that you're not wrong, everyone is usually choosing Godslayer. To be fair, I am not pay any attention to information in brackets, just looking for person's level xD Now I see that everyone have Godslayer. thanks! =) So, I will not do final arena on IWBTH - it is not worthy... >_>
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Feb 26 2016, 17:43
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Epion
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QUOTE(cichy133 @ Feb 26 2016, 15:39)  It has 16,82 edb and max edb on wiki is 16,92 so it's close to old peerless I guess?
Close to max rolls? the this is GOOD staff! QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Feb 26 2016, 15:41)  0.82 peerless is 16.97. I would not sell it for less than 400-500k.
Oh ninjaed (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) QUOTE(f4tal @ Feb 26 2016, 15:43)  So, I will not do final arena on IWBTH - it is not worthy... >_>
Yet (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) This post has been edited by Epion: Feb 26 2016, 17:45
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Feb 26 2016, 17:50
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Feb 26 2016, 16:43)  So, I will not do final arena on IWBTH - it is not worthy... >_>
In time you will start doing DwD @ PFUDOR every day. It's just a matter of level, when you are able to clear it easily there's nothing better, and the guaranteed mag+ clear bonus is the main reason.
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Feb 26 2016, 17:57
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Feb 26 2016, 16:50)  In time you will start doing DwD @ PFUDOR every day.
:S QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Feb 26 2016, 16:50)  It's just a matter of level
which level, just to be clear? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Feb 26 2016, 18:05
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cichy133
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 26 2016, 16:57)  :S which level, just to be clear? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I stopped doing iwbth on 350 lvl and now I do pfudor only. Except iw of course.
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Feb 26 2016, 18:08
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jacquelope
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Feb 25 2016, 23:49)  maybe could be sold for a tens or hundreds of thousands, or a bit more to specific people who are collecting stuff like this. If anybody wanted to spent money for shielding bonus, s/he should spent it on better shield instead. Post 300/350 any heavy user "should" aim for power-slaughter instead.
Yeah, I see them in the auctions all the time.
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Feb 26 2016, 18:14
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(cichy133 @ Feb 26 2016, 17:05)  I stopped doing iwbth on 350 lvl and now I do pfudor only. Except iw of course.
almost no problem with PF IWs. maybe for 80+ rounds it's a bit long, but still manageable. on the contrary, the only time i did PF DWD it required something like 3 or 4 hours. worthless, better to do it @ hard just for token/trophy farming
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Feb 26 2016, 18:38
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Benny-boy
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Feb 26 2016, 16:05)  Being able to play it is one thing, but doing so efficiently compared to other styles is another... there are lots of styles that are theoretically playable but still quite bad decisions (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Or are you saying that you tried them and 2h did actually feel efficient compared to 1h? If so that's very interesting, everyone else seems to have a different experience... I remember going with 2h until 260 or so and when I switched to 1h the difference was incredible, I felt really stupid for trying to get the other crappy style to work well for so long... Who said anything about efficiency except "1H is OP"? I am just saying that playing 2H up to IWBTH/PFUDOR up to TT&T is possible, and there is nothing wrong about it. QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 26 2016, 18:14)  almost no problem with PF IWs. maybe for 80+ rounds it's a bit long, but still manageable. on the contrary, the only time i did PF DWD it required something like 3 or 4 hours. worthless, better to do it @ hard just for token/trophy farming
What is your t/s? 3-4 hours is very long for experienced melee (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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Feb 26 2016, 18:43
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Feb 26 2016, 17:38)  Who said anything about efficiency except "1H is OP"? I am just saying that playing 2H up to IWBTH/PFUDOR up to TT&T is possible, and there is nothing wrong about it. What is your t/s? 3-4 hours is very long for experienced melee (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) roughly 1.2 when i'm not doing anything else. 0.7 or less when i get bored and start to look at something else. [edit]: one of my usual results is PF T&T in 35~45 minutes. roughly same time for 80 rounds IWTBH IW This post has been edited by Scremaz: Feb 26 2016, 18:45
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Feb 26 2016, 19:06
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Benny-boy
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 26 2016, 18:43)  roughly 1.2 when i'm not doing anything else. 0.7 or less when i get bored and start to look at something else.
[edit]: one of my usual results is PF T&T in 35~45 minutes. roughly same time for 80 rounds IWTBH IW
I see, your provider still lives in 2000 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)
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Feb 26 2016, 19:11
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Feb 26 2016, 18:06)  I see, your provider still lives in 2000 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) who knows? but i just did a ping. 30 requests, 121ms average. this with torrent downloading @ 215 KB = 1.72M (out of a 7M line) meanwhile. tracert showed 14 nodes, with connection completely lost on 5 of them (4 of those just past my modem).
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Feb 26 2016, 19:17
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f4tal
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QUOTE roughly 1.2 Scremaz, did you tried to use Iron (or other based on Chrome) browsers? What is your browser? In my firefox I have 1-1,2 t/s, but in Iron it is 3,5-4 t/s (I guess 4 t/s is server-site restriction) Did you use scripts? Thy latest Reloader 1.3.1a FabulousCupcake and Simrock87. Did you tried Battle Compact 2.0 theme from boulay?
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Feb 26 2016, 19:18
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Benny-boy
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 26 2016, 19:11)  who knows? but i just did a ping. 30 requests, 121ms average. this with torrent downloading @ 215 KB = 1.72M (out of a 7M line) meanwhile.
tracert showed 14 nodes, with connection completely lost on 5 of them (4 of those just past my modem).
so sad (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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Feb 26 2016, 19:26
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Feb 26 2016, 18:17)  Scremaz, did you tried to use Iron (or other based on Chrome) browsers? What is your browser? In my firefox I have 1-1,2 t/s, but in Iron it is 3,5-4 t/s (I guess 4 t/s is server-site restriction)
Did you use scripts? Thy latest Reloader 1.3.1a FabulousCupcake and Simrock87. Did you tried Battle Compact 2.0 theme from boulay?
firefox portable. i have a personal hate towards Chrome famliy. as for scripts, Hoverplay, StatSlim, Item Manager, Counter Plus, Cooldown and Stack Counter. QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Feb 26 2016, 18:18)  oh well... if it's only for HV i can bear with it. This post has been edited by Scremaz: Feb 26 2016, 19:29
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Feb 26 2016, 19:50
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simrock87
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 26 2016, 17:11)  who knows? but i just did a ping. 30 requests, 121ms average. this with torrent downloading @ 215 KB = 1.72M (out of a 7M line) meanwhile.
tracert showed 14 nodes, with connection completely lost on 5 of them (4 of those just past my modem).
I'm kind of watching this on my side at the moment for script performance tests right now. So far my ping is 51ms ±11ms, the time each request takes is usually somewhere ranging from 230ms to 240ms, which would make me think that processing HV side takes about 180ms. Coupled with your 120ms that's 400ms, or 2.5t/s max. Add to that about 20-30ms or so for scripting and rendering, then the round-end delay (if you're greedy like me and want to see what drops (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)), add a couple percent for weird lag spikes (those 3s requests (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)) and you end up at 450-500ms per request. Then to top it off, most don't watch HV all the time and watch series or whatnot on the side, so there's an additional delay for switching targets, buffing/potting and so on and you drop another couple t/s. The best i managed so far was 3.6t/s, but that was with about 15-20ms ping (university line) and on SG arenas. I don't think you can get much faster than that realistically due to round-end delays and reaction time issues. PS: mid to end next week i'll probably put some stuff up for testing regarding reloader and hover stuff. The combination pretty much cuts off scripting and rendering during a round (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Feb 26 2016, 19:55
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f4tal
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QUOTE i have a personal hate towards Chrome famliy. Me too, but after trying Iron Portable and check speed in HentaiVerse - I put my hate in deep-deep place... QUOTE as for scripts, Hoverplay, StatSlim, Item Manager, Counter Plus, Cooldown and Stack Counter. Please, try the use latest reloader - it defiantly rocks and have "Counter Plus" and "Stack Counter" build in. If you are melee you can use reloader that have build-in mousemelee in it and abandon Hoverplay. This post has been edited by f4tal: Feb 26 2016, 19:56
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Feb 26 2016, 20:08
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(simrock87 @ Feb 26 2016, 18:50)  if you're greedy like me and want to see what drops (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) in my case it's not greediness. i have multiple sets, am a collector, a shoprunner and an auctioner. last time my inventory went under 900 items probably i was still employed. i have the need to track what drops in order to keep my inventory under 1000 items. but thanks for your math. quite interesting. best result i was able to achieve right now was 3.2 on a RE right after my pc woke up from standby. not even worth mentioning. but 1.7~2 t/s (on RE or first arena) is usually reachable. then, the longer the arena, the lower the t/s. even if i don't track drops at all. QUOTE(f4tal @ Feb 26 2016, 18:55)  Me too, but after trying Iron Portable and check speed in HentaiVerse - I put my hate in deep-deep place... Please, try the use latest reloader - it defiantly rocks and have "Counter Plus" and "Stack Counter" build in. If you are melee you can use reloader that have build-in mousemelee in it and abandon Hoverplay. apart for the obvious Reloader feature, one script and not three? i guess even calling three different routines from the same external file rather than three different files has its worth...
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Feb 26 2016, 20:51
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f4tal
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Sorry, latest reloader do not have "Stack Counter" in it - my fall. I confused it with latest HVStatSlim.
Latest Reloader 1.3.1a have this features, according to inner settings:
hideWelcome // Hide the "Welcome to the Hentaiverse" image/logo noBlinking // Disable buff/debuff blinking effectDurations // Show buff/debuff durations gemIcon // Show gem/powerup, click on icon to use roundCounter // Show current round and rounds remaining defaultAction // Change the default action to a T1 spell
mouseMelee // MouseMelee ( hover on enemies to attack ) minHP: 0.44 // Stop if hp is below this threshold minMP: 0.3 // Stop if mp ... minSP: 0.1 // Stop if sp ... stopWhenChanneling: false // Stop if you have channeling buff battleLog // Show battle log
skipToNextRound // Auto-advance to next round popupTime: 0 // after `popupTime`ms showPopup // Show that end of round popup? counterPlus // HV-Counter-Plus ( shows turns, speed, time, exp, and credits at the end of game )
So, Reloader can not only give you solid speed boost, but absorb some settings from StatSlim too, so in ideal situation you can switch this script off too.
I have next script: Battle Compact 2.0 - makes battle scree compact and a little faster State HP - shows enemies HP in numeric fashion (not bar) RiddleMaster Plus - add blocks I can click to answer riddle fast Conditioner - help me to bulk-repair my stuff Inline difficulty Changer - quickly change difficulty without entering in settings Equipment Compassion - hotkeys to compare equips for better one Mini Monster Lab addition - hotkeys for monster management and better management for breeding Item Manager - multi-shrine, multi-moogle, multi-bazaar all kind of stuff RE Countdown Timer - Timer that tell me when 30 min is expired Unshrinably figures - Hide figures from shrine screen Reloader - you know what it is.
This post has been edited by f4tal: Feb 26 2016, 21:00
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Feb 26 2016, 22:19
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jacquelope
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I see what appears to be a number of 2nd accounts doing freeshops. Is that actually allowed? I'd love to be able to run a freeshop that isn't tied to my inventory. That's gonna get confusing with my future projects.
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