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Well, slightly more than 20k turns with high t/s for full pffest isnt bad result. As i remember i did hellfest with ~same turns and cheap gear in 330-360 1h levels.

P/C Magnificent Ethereal Longsword of the Vampire

Worth something?
Or are the stats and the suffix trash?

This post has been edited by Bark: Feb 13 2016, 04:49

I'm at
Scroll of Swiftness 6697
Scroll of Protection 6706
Scroll of the Avatar 645
Scroll of Absorption 3088
Scroll of Shadows 6578
Scroll of Life 1309
Scroll of the Gods 1005
But this is after selling some hundreds of Avatar/Gods and buying a bit of them as well, as well as selling a small handful of the other types. (Maybe Gods and Avatar = 1500 before buying/selling??)

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finally got a new Rapier but I cant use it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
6x in a row now Swift Strike and 3x Overpower..this is a freaking joke man, no one needs to come with % and numbers to get 1 of the potencies.. its all.. nonsense ^^ luck is luck thats all there is.. if not i would have gotten 1 of all potencies by now
add another overpower.. this makes no sense

This is why people pay for IW services. Even if the average shards and time required is low, if you get unlucky you'll spend a lot of both and get nowhere.

Those who IW a lot have a normalized average time and so have no problem with the uncertainty, but those who only want to IW one or two gears may well end up many shards down but nowhere closer than when they started.

It's also the case that existing potencies have a higher chance of being upgraded, rather than another potency popping up (or, at least, that was the case a patch or two ago). Generally, I'd think you spend a shard the instant the first potency you get isn't the one you want.

It's also the case that existing potencies have a higher chance of being upgraded, rather than another potency popping up (or, at least, that was the case a patch or two ago). Generally, I'd think you spend a shard the instant the first potency you get isn't the one you want.

2nd potency usually will also trolling you is most case of IW run (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

With barely any usage or trading of scrolls, I'm at

Scroll of Swiftness 9182
Scroll of Protection 9416
Scroll of the Avatar 3131
Scroll of Absorption 5855
Scroll of Shadows 9345
Scroll of Life 5736
Scroll of the Gods 3043

P/C Magnificent Ethereal Longsword of the Vampire

Worth something?
Or are the stats and the suffix trash?

prefix is good, suffix is quite trash. it will be also hard to self-use it since it's a longsword

With barely any usage or trading of scrolls, I'm at

Scroll of Swiftness 9182
Scroll of Protection 9416
Scroll of the Avatar 3131
Scroll of Absorption 5855
Scroll of Shadows 9345
Scroll of Life 5736
Scroll of the Gods 3043

absorption apart, it seems quite related with item shop prices

I just earned some supportive magic proficiency but I didn't do anything to deserve it, as far as I know. Anybody know why? All I did that turn was attack with my staff. Is there something I am missing or is there a bug?

77 4 Regen restores 1169 points of health.
77 3 You evade the attack from I Am The Justice.
77 2 You gain 0.03 points of supportive magic proficiency.
77 1 I Am The Justice parries your attack.

I just earned some supportive magic proficiency but I didn't do anything to deserve it, as far as I know. Anybody know why? All I did that turn was attack with my staff. Is there something I am missing or is there a bug?

77 4 Regen restores 1169 points of health.
77 3 You evade the attack from I Am The Justice.
77 2 You gain 0.03 points of supportive magic proficiency.
77 1 I Am The Justice parries your attack.

You have at least one level of IA.

You have at least one level of IA.

That would do it. I did not know you gain proficiency from that.

What is the weapon of choice for 1H? I kind of forgot....I think it was rapier?

What is the weapon of choice for 1H? I kind of forgot....I think it was rapier?

yes , at least until 0.84 patch release (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

~ we don't know if PA will get nerf or not (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

yes , at least until 0.84 patch release (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

~ we don't know if PA will get nerf or not (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

So....what's the next best thing then if PA did get nerfed

and is rapier still the best if I'm using plate armor?

So....what's the next best thing then if PA did get nerfed

All melee switching to mage.

and is rapier still the best if I'm using plate armor?

Probably, but the difference will be quite small.

This post has been edited by Sapo84: Feb 13 2016, 17:29

So....what's the next best thing then if PA did get nerfed

1H already has native stun, so - provided PA will actually become shit - only chance is BW. you will still need Parry, so i'd go for either Shortsword of Slaughter or Waki of Slaughter.

So....what's the next best thing then if PA did get nerfed

and is rapier still the best if I'm using plate armor?

just switch to other type of weapon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I just noticed you dont get a spike shield if you use protection scroll. Thats not fair (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

I just noticed you dont get a spike shield if you use protection scroll. Thats not fair (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

you almost double your mitigations (from 30 with maxed ability spell to 50 with scroll), there isn't another scroll that boosts a the respective spell so much so there HAS to be a downside (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

jokes apart, should this be proven right it will be better to update wiki

I just noticed you dont get a spike shield if you use protection scroll. Thats not fair (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

fair , in HV (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

nope (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Feb 13 2016, 20:30

I tried to make the count of niten clears.
Picked the IW of a legendary weapon that gave 79 rounds.

Niten/light straight out clear.
3868 turns
61649511 exp / 2944 credits

Niten/light with imperil in every turn.
2871 turns
61802453 exp / 3155 credits

niten/heavy with imperil in every turn.
2474 turns
62259757 exp / 2877 credits

1H/heavy IW on the same piece.
4366 turns
61260473 exp / 2905 credits

The weapons used for the clears have been all balance.
katana / waki / rapier

No spirit stance or OFC were used for any of these clears.
I got a level compared to yesterday, but i don't think 1 level only makes any great difference in the monster's HP increase.

By the way a normal 1H clear with my normaly used weapon with spirit stance and ofc is

1) 2632 turns
61902774 exp / 3556 credits

2) 2488 turns
61535907 exp / 2843 credits

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One thing though.
If i'm using niten (only niten, not other 2H) i get a gradual loss in speed 100% of the cases i used it.
Almost as if the game can't keep up. Anyone else got this problem?
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Eitherway, i may have been wrong in part of my previous statement since i came to that conclusion because of 2 details i was remembering wrong, but the problem remains.

I tried several test runs of dw and 2h using the following 2 fire element weapons:
axe for dw / estoc for 2H.
The rapier for dw is the same as above.
Naturally they come with thunder protection spell to abuse the proc.
The DW hit chance is 183.6% The 2H hit chance is 191.1%
The amount of times that my attacks miss or are getting parried is more than significant, despite a small count of OP and high enough accuracy. And that despite thunder shield procs!
My niten instead that is more than 220% hit chance never gives me any problems, not in evasions, nor in getting parried.

So i made this tes run:
Used 2x Voidseeker's Blessings on the following 2 weapons.
katana of slaughter and waki of swiftness.
In short 0 balanced pieces used.
I'll only say that i did not even finish the test run.

So it may be true that a B5/F4 run is the best damage, but at the end you need to land your hits to deal that damage.

Conclusions:
Niten / heavy is probably the best combination for very high level gameplay.
However you either need to IW your weapons with B5/OP4 - F5/OP4 (or even OP5/F4 for the waki), or you need at least 2 pieces of "balanced" equip. So it's either a nimble waki highly forged towards accurancy or better a balanced wakizashi and one armor piece of balance suffix.

Unfortunately i missed my chance to get my hands on one when on today's lottery i used 1111 tickets for a chance to grab it and won... nothing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Well whatever. Eitherway it doesn't seem like my pc or connection can handle the niten style, so never mind (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)