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on the other side, too bad Arcanist doesn't provide the Resist boost anymore (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

? At what patch was that? The wiki still states the green triangle in the equipment section... Ah, got it: Wisdom on Arcanist... I think it wouldn't be necessary, because you can forge resist, plus you get a ton of WIS (+33% to +50% depending on rolls and forging). So a boost on resist might be a touch to much and make Arcanist a bit too uber counting all other boosts in.

Negation still is a great filler when you encounter spirit attack mobs the first time. So you could stay alive a bit longer until you can fully utilize Silence. So maybe Leather -> Negation/Fleet -> Arc/SD?

I have 225% hit (no 'Bragging Rights' intended), because I dislike the parries on PF, especially because Domino Strikes /can/ be parried, when the initial hit is a parry. Huge DPS loss. When I switch from LEMB to LEMS, I drop from 225% to 207% and I do think, I saw some parries? Perked PL1k+ PFUDOR monsters seems to need more than 200% hit. (Maybe I am wrong on this!) So I stick to LEMB until I hit 225% with LEMS (or forge it for millions)

Isn't that 200% hit already make the mob 0% evade? And it doesn't affect parry (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Isn't that 200% hit already make the mob 0% evade? And it doesn't affect parry (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Yes, afaik accuracy beyond a certain threshold reduces enemy evade chance.
Does it perhaps act as counter-parry or reduces enemy parry chance beyond a second threshold? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

? At what patch was that? Ah, got it: Wisdom on Arcanist... I think it wouldn't be necessary, because you can forge resist, plus you get a ton of WIS (+33% to +50% depending on rolls and forging). So a boost on resist might be a touch to much and make Arcanist a bit too uber counting all other boosts in.

two or three patches ago. iirc, it should have been the same patch that introduced INT and WIS but not quite sure - there were randome INT/WIS even prior to that. however, back then Arcanist provided both Negation-like Resist and low ITR. it was kind of higher-tier Shade, like Shadowdancer which (still!) provides high Evade and Crit Chance.

The wiki still states the green triangle in the equipment section...

you have to look at that table in relative terms: even for non-Negation ones, Shade indeed has quite high Resist chance values. Negation is simply the peak of said bonus

Negation still is a great filler when you encounter spirit attack mobs the first time. So you could stay alive a bit longer until you can fully utilize Silence. So maybe Leather -> Negation/Fleet -> Arc/SD?

if we only look at Resist, i'd still prefer Negation tbh...

Yes, afaik accuracy beyond a certain threshold reduces enemy evade chance.
Does it perhaps act as counter-parry or reduces enemy parry chance beyond a second threshold? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

ACC beyond 100% starts to reduce evde. ACC beyond 200% completely ignores evade, but i'm not so sure about the effect of chaos upgrades - if they weren't troublesome for the player what would be the point in using them? personally i think they will lower effective ACC so you will need ACC > 200% to ignore said upgrades, but needs confirmation

also, am i the only one to think there are a bit too much stats? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Isn't that 200% hit already make the mob 0% evade? And it doesn't affect parry (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Surely, at first glance, you will go with 200% hit, which should bust any evasion. Hit is stated as 'Anti-Evade' in the wiki. Going above 200% hit, means you /could/ up any other "Anti-YouNameIt', because:
Chance to avoid physical attack = 1 - ((1 - Evasion * (1 - Anti-evade)) * (1 - Block * (1 - Anti-block)) * (1 - Parry * (1 - Anti-Parry)))

If this formula is iterated, like test on evade, test on block (yes, monsters have no shield yet) you will see no effect on it. BUT:
If the formula is not iterated (just 1 roll applied) AND Anti-Evade is not capped at 100% (200% hit) you decrease parry. The underlined part reads then like
1 - Evasion * (1 - (1 + x)); where x is everything above 200% hit
1 - Evasion * (1 - 1 - x)
= 1 - Evasion * - x
= 1 - (- (Evasion * x)
= 1 + Evasion * x

Next to PF: +10% evade on PF. To make it harder: Where is this applied?
(1 - Evasion * (1 + 0.1 - Anti-evade)
or
(1 - Evasion * 1.1 * (1 - Anti-evade)
In the upper case you need 210% hit, in the lower you get a strong bonus on your 200%+ hit (if not iteraded etc)
Well, I maybe you have a good script to detect parries for me. Also I know, that 1h get a 20% counter-parry chance per Overwhelming Strike stack (100% Anti-parry with 5 stacks), but I mace ...

Just said, I think I saw parries....

1) Monsters can't evade players attack/spell if physical/magical accuracy is over 200%.
I confirmed it.

2) Most of damage are physical type.
Less than 15% (1H) and less than 1% (mage)

Fleet and SD have fairly high resist too, so I think Negation is absolutely useless and Arcanist isn't different.

Fleet and SD have fairly high resist too

true, but i can confirm that removing a SD piece from your build and replacing it with a Savage Shade of Negation can lower both your Evade and Crit on the whole build by <1% (starting from a 3% difference if you barely compare the items), even less if you forge Evade and PABs on the new piece.
on the other hand, Resist on your whole build can be raised by >6% (starting from a 10% difference on the single pieces), even more if you forge Resist. and obviously Savage pieces are way cheaper.

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Feb 2 2016, 17:34

Fleet and SD have fairly high resist too, so I think Negation is absolutely useless and Arcanist isn't different.

I am glad to read this as oppinion. In the past we had a discussion here about Shades, mostly SD vs Arc. Also other types of Shades were valued, especially at what level range they are the most useful.

Playing with an uncommon build like Savage Arcanist & Mace is the way I like it.
Savage SD, Savage Power Slaughter and Radiant Phases for the rich ones and Cat Girls. If you want the best for your buck, you go for other builds, because the forging costs are the same, but the auction prices are not. Utility is always to consider, when you have a limited resource.

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=b0f49cc6f1
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=40f373bf30

Worth soulfusing? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Forgot to give my 2 cents.
I would say no and no, non ethereal Axe is not really good (14.42 burden will push you over 70 for 1H and reduce too much speed/evasion for DW) and the balance rapier has very bad WD.
If you have some money you could go for the first rapier in wannaf's auction, level is in the range of the two you linked, but the quality is far superior (and Fiery will probably not attract many high bids).

Forgot to give my 2 cents.
I would say no and no, non ethereal Axe is not really good (14.42 burden will push you over 70 for 1H and reduce too much speed/evasion for DW) and the balance rapier has very bad WD.
If you have some money you could go for the first rapier in wannaf's auction, level is in the range of the two you linked, but the quality is far superior (and Fiery will probably not attract many high bids).

*rushes off to wts section*

This post has been edited by FabulousCupcake: Feb 2 2016, 18:14

true, but i can confirm that removing a SD piece from your build and replacing it with a Savage Shade of Negation can lower both your Evade and Crit on the whole build by <1% (starting from a 3% difference if you barely compare the items), even less if you forge Evade and PABs on the new piece.
on the other hand, Resist on your whole build can be raised by >6% (starting from a 10% difference on the single pieces), even more if you forge Resist. and obviously Savage pieces are way cheaper.

I am glad to read this as oppinion. In the past we had a discussion here about Shades, mostly SD vs Arc. Also other types of Shades were valued, especially at what level range they are the most useful.

Playing with an uncommon build like Savage Arcanist & Mace is the way I like it.
Savage SD, Savage Power Slaughter and Radiant Phases for the rich ones and Cat Girls. If you want the best for your buck, you go for other builds, because the forging costs are the same, but the auction prices are not. Utility is always to consider, when you have a limited resource.

I think Savage or Agile SD is best, but I agree your view as I'm poor.

(I have never bought 5m+ items except forged thing.)

I think Savage or Agile SD is best, but I agree your view as I'm poor.

(I have never bought 5m+ items except forged thing.)

and buy something for 5M means being poor? then at this point i'm a homeless wanderer (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

and buy something for 5M means being poor? then at this point i'm a homeless wanderer (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

he bid andywong fully forged leg slaughter with 30M+ last week (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


I'm the real poor one here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Feb 2 2016, 18:24

I'm the real poor one here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

oh, yeah, it seemed quite strange to me that i had not read such a thing yet...

I think Savage or Agile SD is best, but I agree your view as I'm poor.

(I have never bought 5m+ items except forged thing.)

I wish my whole set was worth 5m (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

he bid andywong fully forged leg slaughter with 30M+ last week (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
I'm the real poor one here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Aren't you that guy who posted a screenshot with like 13m creds in it?

This post has been edited by cichy133: Feb 2 2016, 18:56

oh, yeah, it seemed quite strange to me that i had not read such a thing yet...

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

joke aside , I just realize that chinese and korean have the fastest translators for HV galleries (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


btw , it seem hath price keep going down now ~ never surpass 6000 anymore (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Feb 2 2016, 19:05

I wish my whole set was worth 5m (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Aren't you that guy who posted a screenshot with like 13m creds in it?

already use that credits 2~3 weeks ago for leg power helmet of slaughter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I wish my whole set was worth 5m (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

yep. if you count in even the forge fees (catalysts included) probably all my sets put together could be worth 2 or 3 M, but surely not when i bought the single pieces...

btw , it seem hath price keep going down now ~ never surpass 6000 anymore (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

hmmm... when it'll hit 4500 probably i'll buy a few to shorten my path towards DD, i guess. meanwhile if someone wants to gift me 1500 Hath, i surely won't be too stubborn not to accept it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Feb 2 2016, 19:18

yep. if you count in even the forge fees (catalysts included) probably all my sets put together could be worth 2 or 3 M, but surely not when i bought the single pieces...
hmmm... when it'll hit 4500 probably i'll buy a few to shorten my path towards DD, i guess. meanwhile if someone wants to gift me 1500 Hath, i surely won't be too stubborn not to accept it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

we need some lucky event like when jenga sold his 500 hath with very cheap price (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)