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post Feb 1 2016, 15:31
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Feb 1 2016, 20:04) *

maybe you need full frugal (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


still fast

rapier battlecaster + bucker battlecaster

mana cost mod = 68%

400 divine prof

smite need 32 mana to cast (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

while shockblast only 16 with mana cost mod 86 %

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post Feb 1 2016, 15:31
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post Feb 1 2016, 15:52
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Feb 1 2016, 09:46) *

@FabulousCupcake: How many level of Overpower do you have?
And I would say that counters (with the included OC gain) are the reason that 1H is the strongest melee style.

0; both of my main and offhand weapon has 0 iw level.
Still searching for decent legendaries to soulbind and probably use (nearly) forever; it's hard to find one with level ~350 though ;;

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post Feb 1 2016, 15:56
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QUOTE(karyl123 @ Feb 1 2016, 16:31) *

rapier battlecaster + bucker battlecaster


Another big obstacle is coalesced mana, because it works only with staff. Its very big spell cost reduction. I think 1h mage should play with elemental styles. Its not only mp price, but also holy/dark is much better only without imperil and for 1h mage its incredibly slow way. If we use imperil then mitg is favorable for elemental mages. Its slightly higher base value (usually around 5 points), but also more effective imperil reduction (15 points difference). So all bonuses of holy, such as higher spell coeffs or mmi reduction annihilated. There is quite significant difference in 1h mage and full mage sets. Its prof factor. 1h mage doesnt have prof in weapon and also phase becomes more important, because edb amount is very low. Thats why strong imperil works nice.
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post Feb 1 2016, 15:58
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QUOTE(TygerTyger @ Feb 1 2016, 13:57) *

Finally done with 2/4 proficiencies.

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Tried out holy mage on normal, I run out of mana really fast.... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


Wow props for staff prof. I'm stuck on 135 and I don't feel like grinding this crap.
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post Feb 1 2016, 16:01
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Feb 1 2016, 14:31) *

Not more than 50k probably.
Still, could sell.

QUOTE(FabulousCupcake @ Feb 1 2016, 14:52) *

0; both of my main and offhand weapon has 0 iw level.
Still searching for decent legendaries to soulbind and probably use (nearly) forever; it's hard to find one with level ~350 though ;;

That's to be expected then, with 0 Overpower you will get parried a lot.
I think the usual iw is overpower + butcher/fatality for main hand and overpower + fatality for off-hand.
If you don't want to iw I fear 1H is the only style where you will get decent results.
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post Feb 1 2016, 16:33
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QUOTE(cichy133 @ Feb 2 2016, 00:58) *

Wow props for staff prof. I'm stuck on 135 and I don't feel like grinding this crap.


Don't worry It'll only take you like 1 week if you grind it out every hour of every day (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Feb 1 2016, 16:35
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Found an interesting "bug". When I tried going dual daggers for fun, I unequipped the main hand and got a surprise:

(IMG:[image.noelshack.com] http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/05/1454337299-1h-offhand-dagger1.png)

It's considered as 1H style. So I tried it in battle:

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The offhand dagger deals crushing damage when countering. It's considered as a shield in battle.

Is it even a bug? I wonder.
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post Feb 1 2016, 17:03
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QUOTE(boulay @ Feb 1 2016, 15:35) *

Found an interesting "bug". When I tried going dual daggers for fun, I unequipped the main hand and got a surprise:

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The offhand dagger deals crushing damage when countering. It's considered as a shield in battle.

Is it even a bug? I wonder.


I don't think the dagger is dealing crushing damage, you are probably punching the monsters to death.
I think the system sees only one 1H weapon equipped and automatically sets 1H style.
Then it uses the main hand to deal damage (in this case your bare fist).
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post Feb 1 2016, 17:11
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Feb 1 2016, 16:03) *

I don't think the dagger is dealing crushing damage, you are probably punching the monsters to death.
I think the system sees only one 1H weapon equipped and automatically sets 1H style.
Then it uses the main hand to deal damage (in this case your bare fist).

Not necessarily, since naked is viable (punch+shield). The offhand is used to counter, what of the dagger in this case? It should deal slashing damage, no?

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post Feb 1 2016, 17:15
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QUOTE(boulay @ Feb 1 2016, 15:11) *

Not necessarily, since naked is viable (punch+shield). The offhand is used to counter, what of the dagger in this case? It should deal slashing damage, no?

Just tested just by unequipping the shield and switching rapier to offhand, which comes out to crushing/void.
I counter with crushing, so punch back with the fist (makes sense, as when you have void + shield equipped you also counter with void)
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post Feb 1 2016, 17:23
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QUOTE(simrock87 @ Feb 1 2016, 16:15) *

Just tested just by unequipping the shield and switching rapier to offhand, which comes out to crushing/void.
I counter with crushing, so punch back with the fist (makes sense, as when you have void + shield equipped you also counter with void)

Never noticed that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
Though it does makes sense, since we don't counter with shield bashing...
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post Feb 1 2016, 19:36
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Feb 1 2016, 16:03) *

I don't think the dagger is dealing crushing damage, you are probably punching the monsters to death.
I think the system sees only one 1H weapon equipped and automatically sets 1H style.
Then it uses the main hand to deal damage (in this case your bare fist).

QUOTE(boulay @ Feb 1 2016, 16:11) *

Not necessarily, since naked is viable (punch+shield). The offhand is used to counter, what of the dagger in this case? It should deal slashing damage, no?

and what if Counters deal Crushing (or Void if available) damage on their own? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Feb 1 2016, 19:43
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 1 2016, 18:36) *

and what if Counters deal Crushing (or Void if available) damage on their own? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post Feb 1 2016, 19:53
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Feb 1 2016, 18:43) *

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I like what if that can be debunked in literally 10 seconds even at work (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

oh, well...
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post Feb 1 2016, 21:34
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I know that these gear are not auction staff, but are they salvage material directly, or can they hit more than 20k if they remain as gear?

Magnificent Charged Phase Robe of Heimdall 2 pabs and bad ones, but Charged and holy.
Magnificent Frugal Phase Gloves of Fenrir 2 pabs and bad ones, but Frugal and dark.

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post Feb 1 2016, 22:07
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post Feb 1 2016, 23:04
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QUOTE(FabulousCupcake @ Feb 1 2016, 13:52) *
Still searching for decent legendaries to soulbind and probably use (nearly) forever; it's hard to find one with level ~350 though ;;
Probably won't happen. Better to level up to at least 350 first so you can soulfuse 350-450, but it'll still be hard unless you have a lot of soul fragments.
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post Feb 1 2016, 23:39
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Hmm switch to willow is going to be a huge kick to my balls in terms of mage score, hopefully the counter-resist is worthwhile.....
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post Feb 2 2016, 00:20
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any point in ACC > 200% ?
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