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Jan 28 2016, 19:12
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 28 2016, 23:26)  just a question: do someone know the exact tier of Platinum/Gold/Silver/Bronze coupons? judging by wiki it seems that Platinum is T8, Gold T7, Silver probably T5 and Bronze probably T4. but i'd like to update the trophies page, so i'd want to be sure yep. another good class is Beast, btw surely. i cannot even purchase DD and i should go for Tokenizer 3. consider it already done (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) the last part of my previous post is more important ~ grinding ALOT ~ for that (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) for platinum , I think maybe lower than special event unique trophy (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) QUOTE(Epion @ Jan 28 2016, 23:53)  Yeap. Reptiles are doing good. No complains, but the next 2 will be beasts. After that we will see.  my reptilian already got 39 wins and 11 kills so far ~ around 2 months ~ (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) my beast that more older , got less than half wins and kills (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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Jan 28 2016, 19:22
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Epion
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jan 28 2016, 17:12)  my reptilian already got 39 wins and 11 kills so far ~ around 2 months ~ (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Niiiiice. PL? QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jan 28 2016, 17:12)  my beast that more older , got less than half wins and kills (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) Yeah, but i have beast type monster names in mind that are very cute (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jan 28 2016, 17:12)  the last part of my previous post is more important ~ grinding ALOT ~ for that (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Full 2nd page arenas. 980 rounds (when i was doing them daily). Artifacts found by normal drops: 0-2 per day. Tokens found by normal drops: 1-2 per day. Full IW runs. More or less i was doing 700-800 rounds per day. Artifacts found: 4-10 per day. Tokens found: 2-4 per day. I don't do GFs, but i guess that they should be giving a lot more, since you only have to deal with the less monster numbered turns for only once, while in IW every time the first 20 rounds have less monsters.
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Jan 28 2016, 19:28
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Logii
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Just for information to monster trainers, there might be room for mildly chaosed Arthropod around level 750-810 to get pretty good wins. My monster won battles almost every day at that PL, sometimes even more often. After I upgraded it to 950+ PL it has had much less wins. Sometimes I wish I could drop monster stats too...
My experience has been that low PL gives some wins, 400-600 almost never, 700-800 decent wins and 900+ gives less wins again. It will take a while before I can see what 1000+ PL gives since I need many crystal packs for the next upgrades.
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Jan 28 2016, 19:28
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(Epion @ Jan 29 2016, 00:22)  Niiiiice. PL? Yeah, but i have beast type monster names in mind that are very cute (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Full 2nd page arenas. 980 rounds (when i was doing them daily). Artifacts found by normal drops: 0-2 per day. Tokens found by normal drops: 1-2 per day. Full IW runs. More or less i was doing 700-800 rounds per day. Artifacts found: 4-10 per day. Tokens found: 2-4 per day. I don't do GFs, but i guess that they should be giving a lot more, since you only have to deal with the less monster numbered turns for only once, while in IW every time the first 20 rounds have less monsters. 55 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) GF with even without tokenizer perk , as long as you playing ALOT usually will give you some good amount of tokens (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Jan 28 2016, 20:21
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Logii @ Jan 28 2016, 18:28)  Just for information to monster trainers, there might be room for mildly chaosed Arthropod around level 750-810 to get pretty good wins. My monster won battles almost every day at that PL, sometimes even more often. After I upgraded it to 950+ PL it has had much less wins. Sometimes I wish I could drop monster stats too...
My experience has been that low PL gives some wins, 400-600 almost never, 700-800 decent wins and 900+ gives less wins again. It will take a while before I can see what 1000+ PL gives since I need many crystal packs for the next upgrades.
i just happen to have a PL418 arthropod with a few chaoses. if i read this chart right it should require only 20 crystal packs ~ 600k to reach that goal. a couple of phazons and bindings of slaughter and it may be worth it... QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jan 28 2016, 18:28)  GF with even without tokenizer perk , as long as you playing ALOT usually will give you some good amount of tokens (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) btw, is it a good idea to do Hellfest just to farm tokens?
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Jan 28 2016, 20:28
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nec1986
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Yes and not. I have token perk and from hellfest get ~12 tokens/hour and same from arena. Without perk that d be 6 and ~10.
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Jan 28 2016, 20:30
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jan 28 2016, 19:28)  Yes and not. I have token perk and from hellfest get ~12 tokens/hour and same from arena. Without perk that d be 6 and ~10.
in the meaning that it would be worth with Tokenizer perk, otherwise better to go with normal arenas - time and cost-wise. right?
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Jan 28 2016, 20:37
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Logii
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 28 2016, 20:21)  btw, is it a good idea to do Hellfest just to farm tokens?
In my opinion, not worth it: QUOTE(Logii @ Jan 28 2016, 02:29)  16,263 turns (2.59 t/s) 01 h 44 m 38 s 201,085,931 exp 19,286 credits
600 rounds of Hellfest. What a waste of stamina. I did it only to get one more Amnesia to finally get the reforge for my Wakizashi, but didn't get any. Only useful things: 2 Artifacts, 1 Figurine and 1 Chaos Token. It also took until round 434 before I started getting 3 Crystals instead of 2 Crystals per monster (no Crystarium perks). As with the PFUDOR fest, I don't think I'm trying this one again for a while.
I would only go with Hellfest if you already did all arenas for the day. I don't have Tokenizer perks either.
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Jan 28 2016, 20:54
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 29 2016, 01:21)  i just happen to have a PL418 arthropod with a few chaoses. if i read this chart right it should require only 20 crystal packs ~ 600k to reach that goal. a couple of phazons and bindings of slaughter and it may be worth it... btw, is it a good idea to do Hellfest just to farm tokens? tokens from GF is very random chance drop , sometime from 1 fullfest you maybe only get 1 but sometime you get alot of it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) arena is better for this , at least for me now (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) I lost motivation to do GF run now (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) that depend on you , but I remind you that ED is very expensive now ~ 76k (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) overall , I always have good amount of chaos tokens from all arenas on daily basis (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) without at least cryst2 perk , I really think that you shouldn't doing GF since you maybe will get no income at all ( minus 150k+ just for ED cost for 1 fullfest run ) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 29 2016, 01:30)  in the meaning that it would be worth with Tokenizer perk, otherwise better to go with normal arenas - time and cost-wise. right?
yes This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Jan 28 2016, 20:57
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Jan 28 2016, 21:19
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Cleavs
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roger that. thanks to all
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Jan 29 2016, 00:26
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Fap.Fap
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quick question, if i use power options for my PC are the programs running going to shut down ? ( H@H for example^^ ) or will they keep running in the background?
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Jan 29 2016, 00:29
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Jan 28 2016, 22:26)  quick question, if i use power options for my PC are the programs running going to shut down ? ( H@H for example^^ ) or will they keep running in the background? If the options you set include a rule having it go to Sleep or Hibernate, then everything will stop running when that happens. If H@H is running from a user's account and that user logs off, H@H will stop, even if it appears to be running in the "background". Windows, right? Check task manager. I'm pretty sure H@H could be made to run from System instead of User, allowing it to keep running even when the user is logged off, if that's what you're looking for.
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Jan 29 2016, 00:40
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Fap.Fap
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jan 29 2016, 01:29)  If the options you set include a rule having it go to Sleep or Hibernate, then everything will stop running when that happens. If H@H is running from a user's account and that user logs off, H@H will stop, even if it appears to be running in the "background". Windows, right? Check task manager.
I'm pretty sure H@H could be made to run from System instead of User, allowing it to keep running even when the user is logged off, if that's what you're looking for.
ok good too know that its also possible ^^ but I have no idea to write such a setup for it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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Jan 29 2016, 01:01
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Jan 28 2016, 23:40)  ok good too know that its also possible ^^ but I have no idea to write such a setup for it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) if it's in one of the auto-execution folders in the system registry it should be enough to move said service from the user hive (HKEY_CURRENT_USER) to the HKEY_USERS > "system" user hive - dunno which name though. or probably in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE. something like that. quite easy, i'd say
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Jan 29 2016, 02:22
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momo1125
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It is the dawn of a new day! Reflecting on your journey so far, you find that you are a little wiser. You gain 3,190 EXP, 286 Credits and 250 GP!
suddenly increased today
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Jan 29 2016, 02:34
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Kazsax
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QUOTE(momo1125 @ Jan 29 2016, 00:22)  It is the dawn of a new day! Reflecting on your journey so far, you find that you are a little wiser. You gain 3,190 EXP, 286 Credits and 250 GP! suddenly increased today
You get bonus if you posted on forum within past 30 days, you posted yesterday and nothing before that since may 2014. This post has been edited by Kazsax: Jan 29 2016, 02:34
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Jan 29 2016, 06:48
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izpekopon
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QUOTE(Paarfi @ Jan 29 2016, 12:29)  here I am, slowly building the holy mage set 1) bought another staff old one new onethe differences are very small, but it looks like new on offers a small improvement. Am I right? 2) Decided to build 3+2 set starting with cottons a)which one is better in your opinion Magnificent Jade Cotton Cap of the Heaven-sent or Magnificent Cotton Pants of the Heaven-sent? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Should I even try ro buy something like this, or the price would be 10m+? The old one is better, base mdb 51.49 / base holy edb 10.78. The second one has base mdb 43.94 / base holy edb 9.65 and its a unassigned (older item tend to have inferior stats).
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Jan 29 2016, 06:59
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Paarfi
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dammit, looks like I need new equipment comparison script. My current shows old/new 51.54/50.53 MDB, 10.78/10.75 EDB and better prof and wisdom on the new one.
Please give me a link to the script which you use.
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Jan 29 2016, 08:35
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DIEGOarnanta
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should i train LoTD (11/25) or Quartermaster (10/20) to get more stable profit?
i play arenas only on normal and RE on nintendo.
-current level for lotd 11 and quartermaster 10.
This post has been edited by diegodiego13: Jan 29 2016, 08:36
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