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Jan 28 2016, 16:12
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 28 2016, 21:50)  usually i spend tokens only to unlock slots. previously is used to spend them even to upgrade Scavenging, but it didn't seem so worth it so i stopped and started to rely on numbers. but it's not that theere's a definite relation between tokens and wins. you should know better than me that higher upgrades doesn't necessarily mean better rewards since they are chosen at random
I know those rewards are random (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) but I think my mobs get better chance to give something decent ~ at least for low lvl mobs ~ if I upgrade them with chaos (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I got 45 mobs so far ~ still not decide to keep going to unlocking more slot or power up my mobs (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) QUOTE(w45451212 @ Jan 28 2016, 21:51)  25k-100k/day for how many hours or rounds? And does it include credits from selling stuffs to others? I earn few credits every day. I played in the first three arena , and the last three ones (only before two Legendaries in a round) That is , 5 + 7 + 12 + 110 + 83 + 74 = 291 rounds. But it seems only about 20k~30k credits earned. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I would like to change to a holy mage . But as we know , the cost will be very high , especially when we want a good suit of equipments. I'm still earning credits slowly to buy a good staff and clothes . And getting expensive hath perks may be just a dream for me. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) But from the signature , it seems you've got four peerless stuffs dropped. I never get any one yet , even though I played with difficulty PFUDOR from the very beginning. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Please share some luck with me. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) you should ask sssss2 or void domain to share some luck (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) I lost my luck since december 2015 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) QUOTE(jacquelope @ Jan 28 2016, 21:59)  6384 ABD at lvl 330
Is that good for a full set of mag+ power slaughter?
dunno (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) err , equipment link ? This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Jan 28 2016, 16:13
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Jan 28 2016, 16:16
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Fap.Fap
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Jan 28 2016, 16:59)  6384 ABD at lvl 330
Is that good for a full set of mag+ power slaughter?
most important question first: can you survive easily with full unforged slaughter set on PFUDOR? if not i would consider getting more Protection instead of Slaughter, I have for example only 1 Slaughter 1 Balance and rest Protection.. DWD takes under 40mins so " I " think Slaughter should be left aide until its forged really good to withstand any damage taken
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Jan 28 2016, 16:21
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Jan 28 2016, 15:16)  most important question first: can you survive easily with full unforged slaughter set on PFUDOR? if not i would consider getting more Protection instead of Slaughter, I have for example only 1 Slaughter 1 Balance and rest Protection.. DWD takes under 40mins so " I " think Slaughter should be left aide until its forged really good to withstand any damage taken
40 min? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) which strikes on your rapier? and do you perhaps use imperil?
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Jan 28 2016, 16:24
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Fap.Fap
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 28 2016, 17:21)  40 min? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) which strikes on your rapier? and do you perhaps use imperil? QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Jan 26 2016, 21:34)  DWD .. finally under 40mins with 6700~ ADB
8,914 turns (3.754 t/s)39 m 34 s ignore the turns^^ I always gain Overcharge on the last SG to have a new OFC for the next turn but of course.. Leather again... I wonder is it still possible to drop a Legendary piece in DWD or was it nerfed??
can i reach 20mins with Hath perks dmg etc and 10k dmg??
no imperil, no haste = uber fast Magnificent Demonic Rapier of Slaughterthis rapier is my only worry... but Holy infusion when playing DWD.
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Jan 28 2016, 16:30
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nobody_xxx
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I just curious how fast I can clear PFU DwD if I have 3,5+ t/s , but that just distant dream for me (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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Jan 28 2016, 16:31
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Jan 28 2016, 15:24)  no imperil, no haste = uber fast Magnificent Demonic Rapier of Slaughterthis rapier is my only worry... but Holy infusion when playing DWD. no haste, huh? guess i'll give it a try. not to try the gamble, but just to see all second page completed on PF (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) but no clue on what to put in IA3 if not Haste. maybe empty, it's not that mana upkeep is killing me in any way (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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Jan 28 2016, 16:34
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Fap.Fap
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 28 2016, 17:31)  no haste, huh? guess i'll give it a try. not to try the gamble, but just to see all second page completed on PF (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) but no clue on what to put in IA3 if not Haste. maybe empty, it's not that mana upkeep is killing me in any way (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) huh?? of course Protection,SS and SOL anything you have to caste costs time.. Im saving for IA4 once i have a better Rapier, Shadow veil needs a slot too ^^
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Jan 28 2016, 16:35
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 28 2016, 21:31)  no haste, huh? guess i'll give it a try. not to try the gamble, but just to see all second page completed on PF (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) but no clue on what to put in IA3 if not Haste. maybe empty, it's not that mana upkeep is killing me in any way (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) try to put protection , SS & Sol if you decide to replace haste for IA (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Jan 28 2016, 16:40
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Jan 28 2016, 15:34)  huh?? of course Protection,SS and SOL anything you have to caste costs time.. Im saving for IA4 once i have a better Rapier, Shadow veil needs a slot too ^^
shadow veil with 1H Power? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) i don't like Spark on IA. better to cast it via scrolls, if there's really the need to do it - at least it won't dry your SP Tank empty. and duration is quite similar...
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Jan 28 2016, 16:42
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 28 2016, 15:21)  Pretty slow, right? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)  Yesterday run, just a little over 30 min. I should be able to go under it during the weekend (coffee and 4am run for maximum speed (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)).
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Jan 28 2016, 16:46
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Fap.Fap
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 28 2016, 17:40)  shadow veil with 1H Power? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) i don't like Spark on IA. better to cast it via scrolls, if there's really the need to do it - at least it won't dry your SP Tank empty. and duration is quite similar... nono SV later for Niten, having it on a hotkey would be a waste... I need regen/heartseeker/haste and Skysword or whats it called on a hotkey then... by the way what hotkey scripts are out there? i cant seem to run spellspam on opera... i just need a simple one not for maging.. like.. X = OFC for 1H its easier, I only need regen/heartseeker/sometimes full cure and OFC which is on alt 1 why wouldnt u like SOL on IA? it can save your life if something happens.. and sometimes something happens without a doubt^^ casting a scroll takes time and you might forget it... dont forget you also have a Gold star which I dont and i dont have any problems with mana QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jan 28 2016, 17:42)  Pretty slow, right? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)  Yesterday run, just a little over 30 min. I should be able to go under it during the weekend (coffee and 4am run for maximum speed (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)). my god how did you reach lvl 396 so fast??? i can hardly gain 2-3 levels per week and of course ur at 30 mins with that Rapier and ADB at all (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) This post has been edited by Fap.Fap: Jan 28 2016, 16:48
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Jan 28 2016, 16:48
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Epion
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I don't get it. After changing gear i was at 40-45 min clears with a lot worse t/s (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) You should be at 30 min with 6700...Naaaa na. My bad. The 40 min clears were at the internet cafe with good ping. My bad. This post has been edited by Epion: Jan 28 2016, 16:52
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Jan 28 2016, 17:04
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Jan 28 2016, 15:46)  my god how did you reach lvl 396 so fast??? i can hardly gain 2-3 levels per week and of course ur at 30 mins with that Rapier and ADB at all (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) Gold Star + AL 300 + Thinking Cap (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Also I have 8.1k ADB, not that high.
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Jan 28 2016, 17:09
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nec1986
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 28 2016, 16:50)  usually i spend tokens only to unlock slots. previously is used to spend them even to upgrade Scavenging, but it didn't seem so worth it so i stopped and started to rely on numbers. but it's not that theere's a definite relation between tokens and wins. you should know better than me that higher upgrades doesn't necessarily mean better rewards since they are chosen at random
I have 112 monsters. Tactic is very simple, because if we choose between scavenging and new one then: -Price for 2 new monsters for me 127 chaos (63,5 for each) -1 scavenging level gives 1/20 of income, so i can easy upgrade up to 63/20 ~ 3rd level all Slightly harder if we choose between upgrade for 500pl+ and new 25, but principle is same. Its just lower ratio. So the best is usually simply unlock new and sell crystals. Even in this case its usually around 15k/month income per each monster and there is no much sense to spend even 200k crystals value for returning it back by small part each month in year or even few.
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Jan 28 2016, 17:20
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Epion
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jan 28 2016, 14:12)  I know those rewards are random (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) but I think my mobs get better chance to give something decent ~ at least for low lvl mobs ~ if I upgrade them with chaos (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I have 18 monsters and 3 of them are chaosed. A Mechanoid, a Celestial and an Avion (no specific reason as of why those 3). The Mecha has shown better gifting results compared to other monsters purhaps, but then again it's my first monster and has been around for much much longer compared to the rest. The Avion only once brought me a binding but it was a slaughter one, so it's worth. The celestial though... never gave me anything different than mid or low-grade matterials. And it's my second monster in terms of PL.
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Jan 28 2016, 17:31
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Jan 28 2016, 15:46)  why wouldnt u like SOL on IA? it can save your life if something happens.. and sometimes something happens without a doubt^^
spark spell is a bitch. it brings you at 1HP and depletes 50% of your (base?) SP Tank. in comparison, scroll brings you at 50% HP Tank and depletes 25% of your SP Tank. all of this for 20 turns less or so. you wanna factor in even the cost of scroll vs. potion? feel free. you will see it's not so far away. even more if you consider that most likely you will need Spark only on 30~40 rounds - the rest is all waste (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) but frankly speaking, it passed quite a while since the last time i needed Spark with 1H setup. probably it was on a Leg PF RE, and casted it only because i earned a channel and no other spell worth to cast (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Jan 28 2016, 15:46)  casting a scroll takes time and you might forget it...
assign it on a battle slot and game's done. on the other hand full-cure is istantaneous, right? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) however don't know which scripts you are using, but Hoverplay starts to blink when a spell is about to expire - being it casted either from scrolls or via standard way. quite hard to forget it... QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Jan 28 2016, 15:46)  i dont have any problems with mana
problem isn't with mana, problem is with SP. SP tank is shared with Spirit Shield as well, which can also save your ass at times QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jan 28 2016, 16:09)  I have 112 monsters. Tactic is very simple, because if we choose between scavenging and new one then: -Price for 2 new monsters for me 127 chaos (63,5 for each) -1 scavenging level gives 1/20 of income, so i can easy upgrade up to 63/20 ~ 3rd level all
112 mobs? eeeewwwwwww! and when should i find the time to farm all those tokens? and just to think about the burden on my poor tendons... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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Jan 28 2016, 17:45
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(Epion @ Jan 28 2016, 22:20)  I have 18 monsters and 3 of them are chaosed. A Mechanoid, a Celestial and an Avion (no specific reason as of why those 3). The Mecha has shown better gifting results compared to other monsters purhaps, but then again it's my first monster and has been around for much much longer compared to the rest. The Avion only once brought me a binding but it was a slaughter one, so it's worth. The celestial though... never gave me anything different than mid or low-grade matterials. And it's my second monster in terms of PL.
try reptilian (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) for my all low lvl mobs , I found that my reptilian is the best wins & kills so far (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jan 28 2016, 17:47
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 28 2016, 22:31)  spark spell is a bitch. it brings you at 1HP and depletes 50% of your (base?) SP Tank. in comparison, scroll brings you at 50% HP Tank and depletes 25% of your SP Tank. all of this for 20 turns less or so. you wanna factor in even the cost of scroll vs. potion? feel free. you will see it's not so far away. even more if you consider that most likely you will need Spark only on 30~40 rounds - the rest is all waste (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) but frankly speaking, it passed quite a while since the last time i needed Spark with 1H setup. probably it was on a Leg PF RE, and casted it only because i earned a channel and no other spell worth to cast (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) assign it on a battle slot and game's done. on the other hand full-cure is istantaneous, right? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) however don't know which scripts you are using, but Hoverplay starts to blink when a spell is about to expire - being it casted either from scrolls or via standard way. quite hard to forget it... problem isn't with mana, problem is with SP. SP tank is shared with Spirit Shield as well, which can also save your ass at times 112 mobs? eeeewwwwwww! and when should i find the time to farm all those tokens? and just to think about the burden on my poor tendons... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) just unlock tokenizer 2/3 & grinding ALOT daily like cat lover , e-stark or ssss2 , problem solved (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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Jan 28 2016, 18:26
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Cleavs
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just a question: do someone know the exact tier of Platinum/Gold/Silver/Bronze coupons? judging by wiki it seems that Platinum is T8, Gold T7, Silver probably T5 and Bronze probably T4. but i'd like to update the trophies page, so i'd want to be sure QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jan 28 2016, 16:45)  try reptilian (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) for my all low lvl mobs , I found that my reptilian is the best wins & kills so far (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) yep. another good class is Beast, btw QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jan 28 2016, 16:47)  just unlock tokenizer 2/3 & grinding ALOT daily like cat lover , e-stark or ssss2 , problem solved (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) surely. i cannot even purchase DD and i should go for Tokenizer 3. consider it already done (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jan 28 2016, 18:53
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Epion
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jan 28 2016, 15:45)  try reptilian (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) for my all low lvl mobs , I found that my reptilian is the best wins & kills so far (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Yeap. Reptiles are doing good. No complains, but the next 2 will be beasts. After that we will see. This post has been edited by Epion: Jan 28 2016, 18:57
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