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post Aug 25 2011, 20:54
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So, with a bit of re-gearing (actually had them lying around, I thought I was upgrading to shade gear from kevlar, but was I in fact downgrading?)
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Is this a better setup than the full shade set from above?

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post Aug 25 2011, 21:08
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QUOTE(Randommember @ Aug 26 2011, 02:54) *

Old setup
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So, with a bit of re-gearing (actually had them lying around, I thought I was upgrading to shade gear from kevlar, but was I in fact downgrading?)
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Is this a better setup than the full shade set from above?


I can't tell from the screen caps as you omitted one of the stats part which counts (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Aug 25 2011, 21:18
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QUOTE(MidNightPass @ Aug 25 2011, 21:08) *

I can't tell from the screen caps as you omitted one of the stats part which counts (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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Bah. We're trying it again then. This time without a weapon and some kevlar boots to boot.
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post Aug 25 2011, 21:36
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QUOTE(Randommember @ Aug 26 2011, 03:18) *

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Bah. We're trying it again then. This time without a weapon and some kevlar boots to boot.


I am afraid that your kevlar set is better. The increase in damage and evade is not significant enough. Shade relies on its evade and resist to survive. Parry and resist become important when evade fails.

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post Aug 25 2011, 21:51
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QUOTE(MidNightPass @ Aug 25 2011, 21:36) *

I am afraid that your kevlar set is better. The increase in damage and evade is not significant enough. Shade relies on its evade and resist to survive. Parry and resist become important when evade fails.

So what is the magic number where evade gets good?
20%?
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post Aug 25 2011, 22:17
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QUOTE(Randommember @ Aug 26 2011, 03:51) *

So what is the magic number where evade gets good?
20%?


This is rather arbitrary and of course the higher the better (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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With shadow veil I can have ~50% evade. Notice the mitigation on physical and magical are rather low.
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post Aug 25 2011, 22:48
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QUOTE(MidNightPass @ Aug 25 2011, 16:17) *

This is rather arbitrary and of course the higher the better (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
FYI, this is mine:
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With shadow veil I can have ~50% evade. Notice the mitigation on physical and magical are rather low.


Almost 30% evade? I have a full shade set and I'm only at 19.1%. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Granted, all but 1 of non-Fleet pieces barely have a +1.4% evade chance.

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post Aug 25 2011, 23:25
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QUOTE(HaliZorat @ Aug 25 2011, 22:48) *
Almost 30% evade? I have a full shade set and I'm only at 19.1%. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
Granted, all but 1 of non-Fleet pieces barely have a +1.4% evade chance.

Auras and titles help a lot.
I get +7% Evade from them alone.
QUOTE(MidNightPass @ Aug 25 2011, 22:17) *
With shadow veil I can have ~50% evade. Notice the mitigation on physical and magical are rather low.

Uh... are you sure?

Right now I think you have a 1-(1-.298)*(1-.107) = .37 = 37% chance to avoid physical attacks, which goes to 1-(1-.298*1.2)*(1-.107) = .43 = 43% with Shadow Veil active.

Or maybe I'm just doing the math wrong. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Aug 26 2011, 00:30
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QUOTE((Cheater) Tiap @ Aug 26 2011, 05:25) *

Auras and titles help a lot.
I get +7% Evade from them alone.

Uh... are you sure?

Right now I think you have a 1-(1-.298)*(1-.107) = .37 = 37% chance to avoid physical attacks, which goes to 1-(1-.298*1.2)*(1-.107) = .43 = 43% with Shadow Veil active.

Or maybe I'm just doing the math wrong. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)


you forgot the parry from the 2H weapon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Aug 26 2011, 12:38
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According to this post, if you have 30% evade, you would have 44% evade with Shadow veil.

Of course, this is not the true percentage of how much you will not get hit by mobs, because I didn't include the other avoidance factor, like parry, and the mobs innate miss chance.

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post Aug 26 2011, 18:10
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(IMG:[img89.imageshack.us] http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1117/jackiechanconfused1.jpg)

I thought Shadow Veil increased Evade by 20%.
That post makes it look like it just adds a new 20% evade factor.
So is it added multiplicatevily or additively?
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post Aug 26 2011, 20:02
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Just hit Level 70, and I'm looking for advice on my current build in preparation for 75 when the next set of RoB get unlocked for me

I've got a dual-wield for RoB and a two-handed wield for arena/item world/grindfest

I figure I'd eventually do dual-wield Katana-Wazikashi, but that'd be for a much higher level as I don't gain proficiency right?

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post Aug 26 2011, 20:52
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QUOTE((Cheater) Tiap @ Aug 26 2011, 16:10) *

(IMG:[img89.imageshack.us] http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1117/jackiechanconfused1.jpg)

I thought Shadow Veil increased Evade by 20%.
That post makes it look like it just adds a new 20% evade factor.
So is it added multiplicatevily or additively?


multiplicative
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post Aug 26 2011, 21:03
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I lurked around the linked thread about max stats but it seems that either I am too stupid or there is no updated info.
I lewted this. 3.59 EDB. Is it anywhere near the max value?

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post Aug 26 2011, 21:04
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use the database. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=40037
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post Aug 26 2011, 21:12
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QUOTE(dcherry @ Aug 26 2011, 22:04) *

But how exactly would that DB be helpful in my case?
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post Aug 26 2011, 21:15
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QUOTE(MiAla @ Aug 27 2011, 03:12) *

But how exactly would that DB be helpful in my case?


Compare the highest values in the DB against your piece of equipment.
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post Aug 26 2011, 21:18
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QUOTE(MiAla @ Aug 26 2011, 21:03) *
I lurked around the linked thread about max stats but it seems that either I am too stupid or there is no updated info.
I lewted this. 3.59 EDB. Is it anywhere near the max value?

First post is partly outdated, refer to the last ~2 pages.
New max EDB for gloves is 4.19.
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post Aug 26 2011, 21:19
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QUOTE((Cheater) Tiap @ Aug 27 2011, 03:18) *

First post is partly outdated, refer to the last ~2 pages.
New max EDB for gloves is 4.19.


A while ago I got a fenrir robe with 5.08 base, not the best, but still one of the highest among the list.
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post Aug 26 2011, 21:22
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I'd love to see the max stats for shade and kevlar. I don't have excel installed on here unfortunately (and it won't work for some reason if I tried).
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