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hello, seems everybody start converting to mage.

since I really looowwww on money, how about full cotton of elementalist build ? yay or nay ?

cotton of elementalist + buckler + 1h of battlecaster.

I completely dont understand the difference proficiency mage (cotton)and spesific damage(phase)

1 or 2 proficiency equips are useful, but any more is almost completely wasted since monster mitigation will already be negated, or nearly so. If you're at that point, you'd probably be better off with random Superior phase for your other 3 slots.

For elemental mage, proficiency + Imperil that reduces mitigation more than 70 (generally the highest mitigation of monsters, outside of FSM and SGs) isn't useful, so you usually want enough prof to get to just that point, and no more, so the rest of your gear can go towards increase EDB and be useful. Usually, if you use Imperil, that means you want 1 forged prof equip. Or if you don't want to use Imperil, then you'd want maxed proficiency (2.0 factor) to maximize monster mitigation reduction. Assuming you at least do cheap forging to 5, even when aiming for 2.0, you still probably only want 2 prof equips.

1 or 2 proficiency equips are useful, but any more is almost completely wasted since monster mitigation will already be negated, or nearly so. If you're at that point, you'd probably be better off with random Superior phase for your other 3 slots.

For elemental mage, proficiency + Imperil that reduces mitigation more than 70 (generally the highest mitigation of monsters, outside of FSM and SGs) isn't useful, so you usually want enough prof to get to just that point, and no more, so the rest of your gear can go towards increase EDB and be useful. Usually, if you use Imperil, that means you want 1 forged prof equip. Or if you don't want to use Imperil, then you'd want maxed proficiency (2.0 factor) to maximize monster mitigation reduction. Assuming you at least do cheap forging to 5, even when aiming for 2.0, you still probably only want 2 prof equips.

let say, I dont want to do imperil (for the sake of lazyness) and can heavy forge the cotton, because cotton dont need the overpriced phazon, which 2 parts should be cotton ?

holy shit took me a fucking ton of time to put this one lvl 10.

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=e9ba3860d5

what you guys think ? good ?

doing IW at hell take to long...

holy shit took me a fucking ton of time to put this one lvl 10.

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=e9ba3860d5

what you guys think ? good ?

doing IW at hell take to long...

Good for your level.

holy shit took me a fucking ton of time to put this one lvl 10.

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=e9ba3860d5

what you guys think ? good ?

doing IW at hell take to long...

You should start all over and go for Holy or Dark.

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I kid, of course!

I was wondering whats considered the best way/mode to grind xp? Im around 60 right now and want to up it as soon as I can. Thanks.

play 1h at iwbth or pfu. Use everything, scrolls feather/void shards. Play all the arenas then gf. Spam ED on high stamina if you are rich. You will be level 300 in 3-4 days.

play 1h at iwbth or pfu. Use everything, scrolls feather/void shards. Play all the arenas then gf. Spam ED on high stamina if you are rich. You will be level 300 in 3-4 days.

And at that difficulty level be sure to get your hands on IA1 with Spark of Life.

Mage without some budget wont be good. Around 2-5m build can work, but its mostly base for later upgrade. You ll have almost same clearspeed as 1h build, but with constant cures and other problems. I d advise to start mage with 20m+.

Mage without some budget wont be good. Around 2-5m build can work, but its mostly base for later upgrade. You ll have almost same clearspeed as 1h build, but with constant cures and other problems. I d advise to start mage with 20m+.

is this price because of phazons etc?

Mage without some budget wont be good. Around 2-5m build can work, but its mostly base for later upgrade. You ll have almost same clearspeed as 1h build, but with constant cures and other problems. I d advise to start mage with 20m+.

errrr,,, I am taking battlecaster mage course, not the glass cannon mage course. no need for so much cures I think.

still training my elemental prof.

is this price because of phazons etc?

Not rly, only partially. Phazons is usually last step. I mean first time it ll be huge t/s drop, specially for around 310 level mages (low native defense) and mages without much attack/charged prefixes. I dont remember well, but maybe i cured every single round. Its quite annoying and huge gap from only hover melee to imperil/complicated aim/constant cures mage on pf in concentration. Its slightly better without imperil on low diff.

So first few m is only gear. After that:
0-30 prof forge ~1,5m item (staff and 1-2 cottons)
0-30 edb forge in staff ~1,2m
0-60 mdb forge in staff ~5,5m
After that we can forge phase, but usually this stage is already quite good. With iw, slightly better gear it ll be ~20m. After that even high investment gives small result.

Its ok to upgrade step by step, that amount is just some type of mark when mage ll be very easy and fast.

errrr,,, I am taking battlecaster mage course, not the glass cannon mage course. no need for so much cures I think.

still training my elemental prof.

Yea, i rly liked that style. Its very easy to build and play.

Not rly, only partially. Phazons is usually last step. I mean first time it ll be huge t/s drop, specially for around 310 level mages (low native defense) and mages without much attack/charged prefixes. I dont remember well, but maybe i cured every single round. Its quite annoying and huge gap from only hover melee to imperil/complicated aim/constant cures mage on pf in concentration. Its slightly better without imperil on low diff.

So first few m is only gear. After that:
0-30 prof forge ~1,5m item (staff and 1-2 cottons)
0-30 edb forge in staff ~1,2m
0-60 mdb forge in staff ~5,5m
After that we can forge phase, but usually this stage is already quite good. With iw, slightly better gear it ll be ~20m. After that even high investment gives small result.

Its ok to upgrade step by step, that amount is just some type of mark when mage ll be very easy and fast.
Yea, i rly liked that style. Its very easy to build and play.

i can afford to spend 20 mil but the problem is finding the pieces in my level range haha

let say, I dont want to do imperil (for the sake of lazyness) and can heavy forge the cotton, because cotton dont need the overpriced phazon, which 2 parts should be cotton ?

You'd want to exchange the minimum amount of EDB to get the desired proficiency factor. Robe + pants will probably do the trick but might give up more EDB than necessary; glove+shoes may be insufficient. You need to do a bit of math and plug in your equipment values and budget to figure this out.

As Superlatanium said, imperil + elemental mage might consider targeting ~ 0.71 prof factor in order to reach 70% mitigation reduction.

Non-imperil elemental mage should target 1.0 prof factor in order to reach 50% mitigation reduction. Apply the Level Scaling formula, which tells you that at level 398 you need forged base_stat = 398 / (1 + 398/35.714) = 32.77. Now you can apportion this 32.77 between your staff proficiency and cotton proficiency. Let's say your staff had 8.0 base proficiency. If you forged proficiency 20 times, that would result in 10.45 forged base stat and you need to target 22.31 from the cotton. If you forged proficiency 50 times that would result in 12.00 base stat and you need to target 20.77 from the cotton.

Now you look at Cotton Equipment Ranges and work out the which parts and forge levels would meet your target. If you could get Pmax prof cotton robes and pants, that would be 9.5 + 9.04 = 18.54. This can get to 20.77 with only ~ 6 forges which is nice and cheap but means you're giving up too much EDB. Pmax prof cotton gloves and shoes would be 6.89 + 6.53 = 13.42 which cannot reach 20.77 even with 50 forge. Or work it out with the stats of the actual equipment you're considering to buy.

If you can afford the 1000 hath elemental proficiency perk, that would reduce your target prof factor to 0.9 - it's expensive, but can save you a bit of forging.

He talking about become 1H mage , not full mage , mozilla so you can delete that staff related stats (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

i can afford to spend 20 mil but the problem is finding the pieces in my level range haha

play at iwbth or pfu. Use everything, scrolls feather/void shards. Play all the arenas then gf. Spam ED on high stamina if you are rich. You will be level 400 in 3-4 weeks

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He talking about become 1H mage , not full mage , mozilla so you can delete that staff related stats (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Well, then the prof burden will fall onto the cotton... maybe robe + pants + shoes. ?!

This post has been edited by mozilla browser: Jan 16 2016, 11:32

Its better to take prof with some bonus, because with leveling base amount increases and peak value is very important for mitg reduction.

I mean 1,0 factor gives 50, but 0,95 factor already only 46.

ouuuuchhhhh,,,, too much math @@

let say, I can afford upgrade the cotton all the way to 50 (because cotton no need phazon).

playstyle 1H mage no imperil.

because I dont fully understand HV math. let me write my understanding here.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Proficiencies#Magic_Proficiencies

prof_factor = (effective_proficiency - monsterlevel) / monsterlevel

let say I already lv 400 for the sake of easier math.

monster level = player level (again for easier math @@)

proficiency total 760
400 from base training
200 from base equip (lv 400, 2 pcs cotton body+pants each 100, sample item on aria auction)
120 from lv 50 forge both cotton.
40 from hath perk (because who knows money drop from the sky)

prof_factor = (effective_proficiency - monsterlevel) / monsterlevel
prof_factor = (760 - 400) / 400
prof_factor = 0.9

Mitigation reduction = (prof_factor ^ 1.5) * 50
Mitigation reduction = 42 %

so with prof_factor = 0.9, it already reduce monster element mitigation by 42 % ?

then I need to get 3 cotton to reach 70% @@

As i remember with 1h 4+1 and 3+2 was ~same result for me. So you can simple look for good item in auc (with closer to Pmax prof roll) and buy it. And forge it later 25-30 times, because its quite cheap.

If you gonna change later for imperil style then (specially with prof perk) robe/pants/helm/gloves slots is ok. Not sure about boots, because its not very big. And if choose elec/wind element than pants/robe should be better, because maybe you ll find good willow staff which has nice stats, but low prof. So stronger slot ll compensate that.

UPD. About math, its not 42%, its full 42 points. So if monster has 65 mitg then with 1,0 prof factor (cap 50 mitg reduction) you ll reduce down to 65-50=15. Thats why with imperil we use reduced prof factor. -40 points from imperil and remain 65-40=25 is much lower than 50. Its just wasted.

This post has been edited by nec1986: Jan 16 2016, 13:17

which perks are worth collection, apart for VV and IA3?
i feel like IA3 and gold star's regeneration are already enough, so i don't plan to go for either IA4 and RR, so if the answer is one of these and nothing above i guess i will simply use Hath as currency

10% damage perk?