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post Jan 14 2016, 19:17
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This just dropped for me Rapier, price check?
and should I use it instead of this.
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post Jan 14 2016, 19:28
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QUOTE(hellionss @ Jan 15 2016, 01:17) *

This just dropped for me Rapier, price check?
and should I use it instead of this.

If u do not plan on buying a new rapier of slaughter, i would say yes. Ur current one has very poor base stat and exq.
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post Jan 14 2016, 19:40
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QUOTE(hellionss @ Jan 14 2016, 18:17) *

This just dropped for me Rapier, price check?
and should I use it instead of this.

use your current rapier to IW the new one. it has not a very good suffix, so you will eventually replace it - no need for an outstanding IW, a few butcher or fatality will be enough. you may want to soulfuse it to cut the work though
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post Jan 14 2016, 21:20
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do you holy/dark mage cast magnet on sg?
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post Jan 14 2016, 22:07
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Dear God, a Leg rapier with only 35 base damage? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Jan 14 2016, 22:27
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Why the surprise? 34.6
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post Jan 14 2016, 23:04
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QUOTE(Epion @ Jan 14 2016, 18:27) *

Why the surprise? 34.6



http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=e9ba3860d5

mine is 39.
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post Jan 15 2016, 00:18
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Speaking of Rapiers, I have a small stack of them that I'm not sure if I should Bazaar/salvage or if there is any demand for them:
Magnificent Arctic Rapier of the Vampire
Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of Balance
Exquisite Demonic Rapier of Slaughter
Exquisite Ethereal Rapier of the Vampire
Exquisite Hallowed Rapier of Slaughter
Anything useful looking?
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post Jan 15 2016, 00:43
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Im curios how 25pl get wins? It should be tens of thousands monsters in range where there is no much playing.
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post Jan 15 2016, 02:00
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QUOTE(arialinnoc @ Jan 15 2016, 03:20) *

do you holy/dark mage cast magnet on sg?


yessir.
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post Jan 15 2016, 02:02
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jan 14 2016, 23:43) *

Im curios how 25pl get wins? It should be tens of thousands monsters in range where there is no much playing.

I guess random e-hentai lurkers that click on the icon and get flattened because they didn't even know of hentaiverse.

Anyway, I created 21 PL25 monsters after the gold star, I tried to vary the monsters type, I'll see after a month the number of win for each monster to see the types that get more action.
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post Jan 15 2016, 02:48
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jan 15 2016, 07:00) *

yessir.

does it increase playing speed? I don't because it's slow for me to cast it (need to press two times with a script I use)
I only use imperil and my cleared turns is around 2500
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post Jan 15 2016, 03:05
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QUOTE(arialinnoc @ Jan 15 2016, 00:48) *
does it increase playing speed? I don't because it's slow for me to cast it (need to press two times with a script I use)
I only use imperil and my cleared turns is around 2500
I think it depends on how good your gear is, aka the damage-opportunity cost of a turn. If someone has super gear and super forging, if they can kill SGs in 11 turns, using MagNet to increase damage by <10% definitely isn't worth it over ordinary spellspamming. On the other hand, someone with crap equipment and a wrong element might take 30 turns to kill SGs, in which case MagNet would almost certainly be worthwhile, since total clear time required would decrease noticeably.

It also depends on how much counter-resist from Penetrator/staff type/proficiency you have. More counter-resist = less use for Magnet, of course.
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post Jan 15 2016, 03:50
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Jan 15 2016, 04:07) *

Dear God, a Leg rapier with only 35 base damage? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Well, that rapier is non-slaughter.
leg Non-slaughter rapier is roughly around 33~39 base adb, leg slaughter ones are around 44~51.

QUOTE(formigao @ Jan 15 2016, 05:04) *

cos ur's is exq quality with slaughter suffix (emax is 41 iirc).
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post Jan 15 2016, 04:56
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jan 10 2016, 11:28) *

If you're planning to switch to mage sometime soonish then don't bother getting any better equipment since it'll be wasted - probably better to get VV. Otherwise, if you want to stick with melee, I'd wait until finding Power Slaughter to forge, because actuators are incredibly expensive nowadays.

Thanks, I bought VV and it helped a lot. I didn't realize that my HP boost would combo with VV.
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post Jan 15 2016, 05:34
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Jan 14 2016, 17:50) *

Well, that rapier is non-slaughter.
leg Non-slaughter rapier is roughly around 33~39 base adb, leg slaughter ones are around 44~51.
cos ur's is exq quality with slaughter suffix (emax is 41 iirc).

Okay so my base damage for my rapier is ~42. In the future is it worth the cost to upgrade to anything less than Peerless or am I better off just forging the crap out of mine in case it ever gets long in the tooth? Leg rapiers I've seen auction for 100m.

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post Jan 15 2016, 05:35
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jan 15 2016, 08:05) *

I think it depends on how good your gear is, aka the damage-opportunity cost of a turn. If someone has super gear and super forging, if they can kill SGs in 11 turns, using MagNet to increase damage by <10% definitely isn't worth it over ordinary spellspamming. On the other hand, someone with crap equipment and a wrong element might take 30 turns to kill SGs, in which case MagNet would almost certainly be worthwhile, since total clear time required would decrease noticeably.

It also depends on how much counter-resist from Penetrator/staff type/proficiency you have. More counter-resist = less use for Magnet, of course.


Thanks.
Then I keep it this way cause my CR and prof is quite decent.
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post Jan 15 2016, 05:48
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Jan 15 2016, 11:34) *

Okay so my base damage for my rapier is ~42. In the future is it worth the cost to upgrade to anything less than Peerless or am I better off just forging the crap out of mine in case it ever gets long in the tooth? Leg rapiers I've seen auction for 100m.

IMHO it would be better to forge a leg rapier with base adb closer to 47 (since most leg slaughter rapier have about 44~50 base adb). The only one's that could auction for 100m are those ethereal ones with adb nearing 50, other rapiers with less desirable prefix usually go for alot less.

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post Jan 15 2016, 06:11
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Is 3 the ideal amount of IA slots? (SS/Haste/Prot)

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post Jan 15 2016, 06:40
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Is 3 the ideal amount of IA slots? (SS/Haste/Prot)

The playstyle that benefits the most from having more IA slots would probably be mage, for melee IA2/3 would suffice i think.
Protection would be the lowest priority to assign in IA (has the lowest cost and its buff duration is alot longer than most other buffs), so IF i had IA3, it would probably be (Haste/SoL/SS or SV) if i'm mage and (SS/SoL/Haste) for warrior, alternatively (SS/SoL/Protection) when u have enough survivability and u want higher clearing speed as a 1h + Shield build (lower action speed and no sv means counterattack procs alot more often = more dmg output).
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