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post Jan 14 2016, 02:44
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hello i hav a problem now i only get everyday 30 exp and 7 credit from new dawn and before i got a lot more what hapend?
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post Jan 14 2016, 02:50
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QUOTE(rndmvar @ Jan 14 2016, 01:00) *

Has anyone here been able to become self-sufficient on energy cells gained through salvage from Force/Phase/Shade/Power armors, or is it not supposed to be possible?


Sure it's possible.

Low level players predominantly using Plate / Leather. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jan 14 2016, 05:54) *

Ive decided to check my random holy set on dwd pf. Its only 12k magic score and at my level good slightly forges set is around 19-20k in 4+1 combo. Its rly big difference, specially against tanky bosses who use full potential without much overdamage.

Result - 5,5k turns. Seems fine. Thats why i think almost any players should make simple holy set for sg arenas.


Or simply skip the SG arenas?

QUOTE(odinsphere9 @ Jan 14 2016, 08:44) *

hello i hav a problem now i only get everyday 30 exp and 7 credit from new dawn and before i got a lot more what hapend?


You need to make at least one forum post a month (excluding the spammy forums which are not counted) to maximize what you get from Dawn.
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post Jan 14 2016, 02:51
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post Jan 14 2016, 02:52
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o_o i mena like the one i made here? man i got like 12m now only 30 how can that be maximixe lol
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post Jan 14 2016, 02:54
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Maybe I worded my previous question incorrectly:
Let's say I am a level 300+ dw player with the attributes optimized for dw.
If at some point I want to focus on being a mage, then I have to wait a total of 40 days if I want to move 400 stats (e.g. from str/dex to int/wis).

After putting some thoughts into this, I guess the best way to avoid this is just to plan it as early as possible.
And on top of that, attributes don't seem to matter that much compared to a full equipment set; the stats just adds that extra ~20% edge.
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post Jan 14 2016, 03:00
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this is what he posted, and back then it worked very good for hundreds of users. don't know if it may still work or if further improvements are possible *shrug*

but what can happen? at worst, it would display a negative amount that you will either have to fulfill the next days or immediately revert to the previous situation and lower delta amount (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Nah, seting exp to negative value is not possible. "insufficient exp" or something like that shows below credits.
If I'd need to set my points from 0, I would use something like that(give points equal and can be corrected before accepting, works until lack of exp):
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for(var i=0; i < 500; i++){
increase_pa('str');
increase_pa('dex');
increase_pa('agi');
increase_pa('end');
increase_pa('int');
increase_pa('wis');
}

Simply, because you dont need run it few times or think about "how set every value so I will use all exp and everything will increase as I want"
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post Jan 14 2016, 03:01
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QUOTE(FabulousCupcake @ Jan 14 2016, 01:54) *

Maybe I worded my previous question incorrectly:
Let's say I am a level 300+ dw player with the attributes optimized for dw.
If at some point I want to focus on being a mage, then I have to wait a total of 40 days if I want to move 400 stats (e.g. from str/dex to int/wis).

After putting some thoughts into this, I guess the best way to avoid this is just to plan it as early as possible.
And on top of that, attributes don't seem to matter that much compared to a full equipment set; the stats just adds that extra ~20% edge.

apart for using that console command for quick redistribution, one good way to play past a certain threshold is to keep all stats even, especially if you switch set quite frequently. if it exists an optimum it's not so far from this. and well, at least is a quick & mindless way to assign them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jan 14 2016, 03:02
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jan 13 2016, 21:54) *
Ive decided to check my random holy set on dwd pf. Its only 12k magic score and at my level good slightly forges set is around 19-20k in 4+1 combo. Its rly big difference, specially against tanky bosses who use full potential without much overdamage.

Result - 5,5k turns. Seems fine. Thats why i think almost any players should make simple holy set for sg arenas.
I found something that seems strange regarding Phase vs Proficiency on SG arenas.
I am confused. I used to play SG arenas and FSM with Magnet active 95% of the time, making counter-resist irrelevant, meaning that proficiency to increase counter-resist is irrelevant. I had thought that [proficiency is useful only to the point where it increases both counter-resist and mitigation reduction, so additional slots should use Phase rather than Proficiency], and so I switched out my only proficiency gear
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=cd7ecbfa12
for a random L Phase gear I had in my inventory
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=31f9ef737f
because proficiency would be wasted on increasing counter-resist.

I equipped my phase+prof set on a whim a couple days ago just to see what the difference was.
FSM: 140 turns
PF DwD: 3231 turns

Compare to full Phase, my usual clearing time is:
FSM: 158 turns +-2
PF DwD: 3365 turns +- 100 (variance is high due to the large effect of SG spawn location on whether T1-T2 can hit all or not)

So, at least for the monsters with 75 elemental mitigation, it would appear that reducing their mitigation via proficiency is better than more EDB, even if the bonus to counter-resist is completely wasted (for those who use Magnet like me). So, in this particular situation, [proficiency is useful only to the point where it increases both counter-resist and mitigation reduction, so additional slots should use Phase rather than Proficiency] is not correct, though it's probably right for all other situations when the tanky monsters usually only have 65-69 mitigation.
It is odd. Any idea? Or might my sample just be bad?

QUOTE(odinsphere9 @ Jan 14 2016, 00:52) *
o_o i mena like the one i made here? man i got like 12m now only 30 how can that be maximixe lol
That's how it works. Your last post before today was Dec 10, so the past couple days you've been getting no bonuses from Dawn.
QUOTE(FabulousCupcake @ Jan 14 2016, 00:54) *
If at some point I want to focus on being a mage, then I have to wait a total of 40 days if I want to move 400 stats (e.g. from str/dex to int/wis).

After putting some thoughts into this, I guess the best way to avoid this is just to plan it as early as possible.
And on top of that, attributes don't seem to matter that much compared to a full equipment set; the stats just adds that extra ~20% edge.
Nah, don't worry about it. Optimize whatever you can for your current fighting style, and then once you change, you can still switch 10 points over every day. Due to the exponential distribution of PAB XP, any further "optimization" past 3 or 4 days will be too small for anyone to tell the difference while playing.

You do want high Wis no matter what style you are, so that stat won't have to change much. You also want some Dex as a mage, just for the sake of parry - if the next Dex level costs 1/30th of the next level of Agi/End/Int/Wis, that's probably fine. The only truly useless stat is Str (assuming no Tapping), but it'll return so little XP after a few days that it's not worth worrying about.
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post Jan 14 2016, 03:04
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QUOTE(alfikbecik @ Jan 14 2016, 02:00) *

Nah, seting exp to negative value is not possible. "insufficient exp" or something like that shows below credits.

whatever. i don't remember what i ate yesterday, lettin apart a thing that did a few months ago and only once (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

QUOTE(alfikbecik @ Jan 14 2016, 02:00) *

If I'd need to set my points from 0, I would use something like that(give points equal and can be corrected before accepting, works until lack of exp):
CODE

for(var i=0; i < 500; i++){
increase_pa('str');
increase_pa('dex');
increase_pa('agi');
increase_pa('end');
increase_pa('int');
increase_pa('wis');
}

Simply, because you dont need run it few times or think about "how set every value so I will use all exp and everything will increase as I want"

quite good of a solution. also, it remembers me my old days on C++ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Jan 14 2016, 04:05
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Got 3 items I think maybe worth something?
Legendary Amber Phase Robe of Heimdall
Magnificent Ruby Force Shield of Protection
Magnificent Mithril Kite Shield of Warding
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post Jan 14 2016, 04:08
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jan 13 2016, 16:50) *

You need to make at least one forum post a month (excluding the spammy forums which are not counted) to maximize what you get from Dawn.

Which forums are considered spammy?
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post Jan 14 2016, 06:12
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For those who ever used full plate of protection, may i know your furthest PMI please?
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post Jan 14 2016, 08:18
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around how many Crystals would you need to get a monster to 1500 pl
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post Jan 14 2016, 08:22
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around how many Crystals would you need to get a monster to 1500 pl
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Monster_Lab#Important_Power_Levels

Look at image on the right
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post Jan 14 2016, 08:23
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QUOTE(DrasticMeasures @ Jan 13 2016, 22:18) *

around how many Crystals would you need to get a monster to 1500 pl


(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/xmIKJnC.png)

~580 crystal packs
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post Jan 14 2016, 08:26
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QUOTE(Dammon @ Jan 14 2016, 17:23) *

(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/xmIKJnC.png)
~580 crystal packs


Oh I didn't see that chart in the wiki. Thank you.
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post Jan 14 2016, 08:50
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I suddenly wanted to replay HV but somehow it's crazy hard right now, I can't even defeat Nintendo 30 mins enemy encounter now.

My equip:
Magnificent Katalox of Heimdall
Superior Phase Cap of Fenrir
Superior Phase Robe of Fenrir
Exquisite Jade Phase Glove of Heimdall
Superior Phase Pants of Fenrir
Fine Phase Shoes of Fenrir

My Stat
Str 210 + 0+2
Dex 220+37+2
Agi 220+53+1
End 284+0+1
Int 303+207+0
Wisdom 289+180+1

I've put all the abilities in its slot and stuffs (Well before putting that, I can't even beat hard (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ) and I haven't got access to last tier of holy/dark yet because of proficiency deficit.
Can someone give me advice? Thanks before
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post Jan 14 2016, 09:04
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QUOTE(Tod-Engel @ Jan 13 2016, 22:50) *

I suddenly wanted to replay HV but somehow it's crazy hard right now, I can't even defeat Nintendo 30 mins enemy encounter now.

My equip:
Magnificent Katalox of Heimdall
Superior Phase Cap of Fenrir
Superior Phase Robe of Fenrir
Exquisite Jade Phase Glove of Heimdall
Superior Phase Pants of Fenrir
Fine Phase Shoes of Fenrir

My Stat
Str 210 + 0+2
Dex 220+37+2
Agi 220+53+1
End 284+0+1
Int 303+207+0
Wisdom 289+180+1

I've put all the abilities in its slot and stuffs (Well before putting that, I can't even beat hard (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ) and I haven't got access to last tier of holy/dark yet because of proficiency deficit.
Can someone give me advice? Thanks before


You should stick to a single element instead of trying to use two (ie. equip all Heimdall armor and only use Holy spells).

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post Jan 14 2016, 09:09
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QUOTE(Tod-Engel @ Jan 14 2016, 06:50) *
I suddenly wanted to replay HV but somehow it's crazy hard right now, I can't even defeat Nintendo 30 mins enemy encounter now.

I've put all the abilities in its slot and stuffs (Well before putting that, I can't even beat hard (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ) and I haven't got access to last tier of holy/dark yet because of proficiency deficit.
Can someone give me advice? Thanks before
Like Dammon said, use only one element.

Also, mage is very tough before 310, and even then it's not that good without somewhat strong equipment. Have you tried 1h? They can handle high difficulties much much more easily.
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post Jan 14 2016, 09:39
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QUOTE(Dammon @ Jan 14 2016, 16:04) *

You should stick to a single element instead of trying to use two (ie. equip all Heimdall armor and only use Holy spells).



QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jan 14 2016, 16:09) *

Like Dammon said, use only one element.

Also, mage is very tough before 310, and even then it's not that good without somewhat strong equipment. Have you tried 1h? They can handle high difficulties much much more easily.


Crap... I thought about using the lower holy/dark resistance effect so it backfired now.
So probably I should just give up replaying HV now, no stat reset, no money nor other equipments (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I do have other account lv 210 which using DW with decent eq (rapier of balance/wakizashi of swiftness+ shade armor), but I stopped using that because it is very slow killing monsters one by one.

Well thanks for the advice, maybe I'll just play the DW account and hope to get good EQ to share with the broken mage.
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