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post Jan 9 2016, 23:45
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Jan 9 2016, 16:42) *
Can you even do that successfully? I mean, maybe with cloth/phase armor, a badass leg kite shield and an ethereal rapier? How much will the evade cut into persistent OC?
Yeah, it was a topic a couple weeks ago - battlecaster 1h with EDB prefix (doesn't have to be rapier). Always cast rather than attack. Damage will be much lower than a true mage, but defense will be a lot higher, due to block and parry, so it's something lower-level players can do who want to play like a mage but feel too squishy. Apparently it's somewhat viable.
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post Jan 10 2016, 01:52
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jan 10 2016, 04:45) *

Yeah, it was a topic a couple weeks ago - battlecaster 1h with EDB prefix (doesn't have to be rapier). Always cast rather than attack. Damage will be much lower than a true mage, but defense will be a lot higher, due to block and parry, so it's something lower-level players can do who want to play like a mage but feel too squishy. Apparently it's somewhat viable.


for that kind of battle mage, is staff proficiency also be counted ? for the m damage ?

add some : is spirit stance give 100% damage boost to spell too ?

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post Jan 10 2016, 01:56
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for that kind of battle mage, is staff proficiency also be counted ? for the m damage ?

add some : is spirit stance give 100% damage boost to spell too ?
Since you're not using a staff, staff prof is irrelevant. And since you never attack, Spirit Stance doesn't work either. (and SS only decreases mana costs, it doesn't increase damage)
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post Jan 10 2016, 02:06
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Since you're not using a staff, staff prof is irrelevant. And since you never attack, Spirit Stance doesn't work either. (and SS only decreases mana costs, it doesn't increase damage)


errrr, so this battle mage will be even slower than traditional 1H....

no mdmg bonus, no mcritical bonus
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post Jan 10 2016, 02:14
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jan 10 2016, 00:56) *

And since you never attack, Spirit Stance doesn't work either. (and SS only decreases mana costs, it doesn't increase damage)

You still get counter-attacks on block/parry, so gaining OC is still possible.
Problem is SS does not seem very useful for mages, OFC is a super-weak T3-alike and Concussive Strike doesn't sound to good on paper... I guess SS is the "best" choice.
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post Jan 10 2016, 02:25
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Its faster than 1h. Actually it was almost same speed as my full mage. I was very surprised and reason was because i got higher t/s. Its like to play 1h, but with 2h aoe range and imperil casting. Quite smooth, predictably fight and thats probably affects clearspeed. My turns was significant higher and as side effect also spend more mp pots, but its compensated.

It might be even better for starter, because new mages always cures much. Its very hard to start from zero. No prof, no good gear and so on. So this 1h mage completely fixes defense and helps to get prof faster (higher mana consumption). And its very easy to collect, because its only 1 good shield with any edb matching weapon and 5 phases.
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post Jan 10 2016, 02:44
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jan 9 2016, 13:45) *

Yeah, it was a topic a couple weeks ago - battlecaster 1h with EDB prefix (doesn't have to be rapier). Always cast rather than attack. Damage will be much lower than a true mage, but defense will be a lot higher, due to block and parry, so it's something lower-level players can do who want to play like a mage but feel too squishy. Apparently it's somewhat viable.

But speaking of rapiers, can you even theoretically get an ethereal rapier of the battlecaster?
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post Jan 10 2016, 02:48
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But speaking of rapiers, can you even theoretically get an ethereal rapier of the battlecaster?
Of course.
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post Jan 10 2016, 02:58
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jan 9 2016, 16:48) *

Of course.

I just never saw one, so I had to inquire. Would love to try one out in an arena battle.
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post Jan 10 2016, 03:46
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QUOTE(Epion @ Jan 9 2016, 22:14) *

I know that shadowdancer shades are looked out for, but this is only magnificent and with 3 pabs only. What would be a right prize to sell it? (already wearing a better one for my light armor... BOUGHT AT THE BAZAAR...).

no AGI? good luck.

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this is salvage material???

not an expert, but i'd say yes

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But speaking of rapiers, can you even theoretically get an ethereal rapier of the battlecaster?

yep. but what's the point? it's not even matching, so no EDB boost. better to pick a Force Shield and a matching of Battlecaster to compensate all that ITR. or a Buckler of Barrier, but they are way rarer than Forces
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post Jan 10 2016, 04:07
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 10 2016, 02:46) *

yep. but what's the point? it's not even matching, so no EDB boost. better to pick a Force Shield and a matching of Battlecaster to compensate all that ITR. or a Buckler of Barrier, but they are way rarer than Forces

The good thing is that you don't need STR at all and barely need DEX.
A END+AGI+whatever buckler of barrier is cheaper than a perfect PAB one.
For example, this is perfect if you have the money to spend (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Couple if with a good legendary wiki of the battlecaster and you have a sick combo (>60% block >50% parry + good evade and resist).
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post Jan 10 2016, 04:28
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Still junk?

Magnificent Zircon Phase Robe of Mjolnir
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post Jan 10 2016, 04:41
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Jan 10 2016, 03:28) *

19k worth (actually more since you also get scrap and energy cells).
I doubt you can sell 2 PAB mag phase.

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post Jan 10 2016, 04:43
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Jan 10 2016, 02:28) *
Even though it's Mag and 2 PAB, EDB is high and bounded level is low enough that players able to use it might not be able to get higher level legendaries. Some might be interested.

Still, it's a long shot, in part because few are trying to mage at that level.
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post Jan 10 2016, 04:50
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jan 9 2016, 18:43) *

Even though it's Mag and 2 PAB, EDB is high and bounded level is low enough that players able to use it might not be able to get higher level legendaries. Some might be interested.

Still, it's a long shot, in part because few are trying to mage at that level.

Long shot, eh? Yeah, I see a lot of ancient stuff sitting on WTS shops, not gonna want to wait that long for a buyer.
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post Jan 10 2016, 04:53
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jan 9 2016, 18:07) *

The good thing is that you don't need STR at all and barely need DEX.
A END+AGI+whatever buckler of barrier is cheaper than a perfect PAB one.
For example, this is perfect if you have the money to spend (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Couple if with a good legendary wiki of the battlecaster and you have a sick combo (>60% block >50% parry + good evade and resist).

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh fuck me, how much is that shield?
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post Jan 10 2016, 05:48
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Jan 10 2016, 03:53) *

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh fuck me, how much is that shield?

Is listed at offer in djackallstar's shop (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

No idea how high the offer must be, but I guess at least a couple of millions.
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post Jan 10 2016, 06:02
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Is listed at offer in djackallstar's shop (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

No idea how high the offer must be, but I guess at least a couple of millions.

I'd give anything for gear to have a price on them. I hate being told "too low". At least if the price tag is 15 million I know not to bother.

Sigh.
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post Jan 10 2016, 06:38
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Jan 9 2016, 20:53) *

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh fuck me, how much is that shield?

Better than mine (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Jan 10 2016, 07:03
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Hello, I've another couple of simple question.

When I played a few years ago, I think ethereal maces were considered one of the strongest weapons. I just saw some recent comments, however, saying that 2h is not viable anymore at higher levels cause they aren't tanky enough. So should I switch over to 1h..? I already have 120 proficiency in 2h (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

And overall, what should be the first 1h/2h weapon I soulbind if I'm using light armor and have a budget of 300k? I've already a superior ethereal mace of slaughter (which someone else set at lvl 65) from the FreeShop, but I'd rather give it back if I could afford to soulbind a better weapon.
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