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post Jan 6 2016, 12:13
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Jan 6 2016, 12:06) *

What's the current shield u are using?
My guess is that its because of ur block and parry stats (due to using axe, since axe doesn't have parry).


Using an exquisite reinforced buckler of protection... can't seem to find a decent shield at my level (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Jan 6 2016, 12:32
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QUOTE(liddlemicky @ Jan 6 2016, 18:13) *

Using an exquisite reinforced buckler of protection... can't seem to find a decent shield at my level (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

Could u link that shield for me to see?
How much is ur budget if u were gonna replace that shield, i'll look around the WTS for u.

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Sent u a PM with some info on which shields are good and affordable in the WTS.

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post Jan 6 2016, 12:33
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QUOTE(liddlemicky @ Jan 6 2016, 18:13) *

Using an exquisite reinforced buckler of protection... can't seem to find a decent shield at my level (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

Force shield > buckler of barrier > buckler of nimble > kite > buckler
All you need is high block%, maybe you can find a better shield in free shop or npc shop.
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post Jan 6 2016, 12:44
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QUOTE(liddlemicky @ Jan 6 2016, 11:13) *

Using an exquisite reinforced buckler of protection... can't seem to find a decent shield at my level (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

sent you and average Kite. not that big of a deal, but at least it should boost your block by 10% or so, unassigned & cheap to forge if needed. it will also lower your evade a bit, so it *may* be somehow good for your overall build.

next big emprovement will be at lv250 when you'll unlock the 'Better Block' ability, be sure to slot it.
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post Jan 6 2016, 13:37
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is heavy armor better for 1h and shield, or it's not actual now?
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post Jan 6 2016, 13:43
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http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4838f2658c
good item for new players in bazaar, IW10 Katana.

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post Jan 6 2016, 13:45
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QUOTE(TJohnShepard @ Jan 6 2016, 14:37) *

is heavy armor better for 1h and shield, or it's not actual now?


Light armor gives more defense and heavy (power armor, specially with slaughter suffix) has higher attack. Because 1h is very safe style then players prefer heavy for faster clear.
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post Jan 6 2016, 14:04
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Jan 6 2016, 13:14) *

Yea its hard to find the right gem, and the right time to use it.
So more often than not I just "might as well" hover on it and just use it. And it adds up to 100~200 turns for a gf (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)


Does using a gem really cost so much?

It's an action that takes zero-time, so you don't have to worry about any significant changes happening in the battle. Maybe one of the battle scripts (esp reloader) could fire that off as a separate thread in parallel with whatever other action you wanted to take.
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post Jan 6 2016, 15:07
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QUOTE(TJohnShepard @ Jan 6 2016, 12:37) *

is heavy armor better for 1h and shield, or it's not actual now?

it's level-dependant. at low levels you need to survive, so Leather armors are a better option - furthermore you won't be able to afford high difficulties yet, so you won't need high firepower either way.
as you level up mobs will become stronger and also your innate toughness, so you may focus on firepower via switching to Power armors. if you want to put some milestones, i'd suggest you the following:
  • lv < 200: 2H + Leather armors
  • lv 200: 1H + Leather armors
  • lv 250: 1H + non-Slaughter Power armors or hybrid Slaughter + Plate of Protection (Shielding if possible, while you're at it)
  • lv 310 or so: 1H + Power of Slaughter or Mage route
obviously it's only an indication, don't take it for gold. only to give you a certain direction (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jan 6 2016, 13:04) *

Does using a gem really cost so much?

afaik the only aftermath in using a gem is to lose 10 OC if in Spirit Stance. otherwise, not even that
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post Jan 6 2016, 16:02
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Jan 6 2016, 12:04) *
QUOTE(Void Domain @ Jan 6 2016, 05:14) *
Yea its hard to find the right gem, and the right time to use it.
So more often than not I just "might as well" hover on it and just use it. And it adds up to 100~200 turns for a gf (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
Does using a gem really cost so much?

It's an action that takes zero-time, so you don't have to worry about any significant changes happening in the battle. Maybe one of the battle scripts (esp reloader) could fire that off as a separate thread in parallel with whatever other action you wanted to take.
One turn is one turn, multiply that by a hundred or two over a GF and it adds up to a bit, though not very much, especially for melee. It's not the in-battle changes, but just the fact that it uses up a turn, which means there is an opportunity cost.
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post Jan 6 2016, 16:55
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Jan 6 2016, 15:02) *

One turn is one turn, multiply that by a hundred or two over a GF and it adds up to a bit, though not very much, especially for melee. It's not the in-battle changes, but just the fact that it uses up a turn, which means there is an opportunity cost.

Apart from health gem you're problably saving a turn that would be spent on potions/draughts, so I fail to see how it can be a problem.
(200t / 4) / 3.5t/s => it's something like 15s for a GF.
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post Jan 6 2016, 17:00
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jan 6 2016, 14:55) *
Apart from health gem you're problably saving a turn that would be spent on potions/draughts, so I fail to see how it can be a problem.
(200t / 4) / 3.5t/s => it's something like 15s for a GF.
If it's used when needed, then yeah, of course it's fine. It's just that when "So more often than not I just "might as well" hover on it and just use it. And it adds up to 100~200 turns for a gf" - yeah, it's probably a mostly wasted turn, but it's still only an incredibly small fraction of time, especially for melee.
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post Jan 6 2016, 17:06
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I usually never keep spirit or mana above 2/3 so there is always space for a gem (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Also I think hovering on icon is suboptimal, pressing P is much faster, using reloader if I spam P when the round is ending the gem is auto-triggered before the first turn of the next round (not sure if it can be done with other scripts, but I guess so).
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post Jan 6 2016, 17:24
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Which one of these two Rapiers is the better one?

1.Legendary Tempestuous Rapier of Slaughter

2.Legendary Tempestuous Rapier of Slaughter
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post Jan 6 2016, 17:28
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QUOTE(Mecha Xanatos @ Jan 6 2016, 22:24) *

unforged is better (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Jan 6 2016, 17:31
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Probably lot better.
Base WD of the forged one doesn't seems to be very high, unforged one has nearly Peerless WD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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post Jan 6 2016, 17:36
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Jan 6 2016, 18:28) *

unforged is better (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)


QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jan 6 2016, 18:31) *

Probably lot better.
Base WD of the forged one doesn't seems to be very high, unforged one has nearly Peerless WD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)


Thakns for your help (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I guess long and tedious IW is what comes next...again (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jan 6 2016, 17:38
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QUOTE(Mecha Xanatos @ Jan 6 2016, 07:24) *

The second one is junk, send it to me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 6 2016, 17:41
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Advice... Go straight to the end.

Now... since we talked about it yesterday, today i went along with clearing DwD with normal attacks only, using my usual rapier.
Unfortunately once again a lot of things came in the way to interrupt me, the pc went crazy (again) and we had a mini end of the world here, so as always i'll go with the "feel" i get from things cause i couldn't time things properly.
Yesterday i also had a lot of interruptions but considering the length of the videos i was watching and that i would stop them when i had to move away from the pc i would say that i was around the 1 hour and 20 minutes clear.
Today i was... No idea... Probably... less??? Don't know. More than 1 hour, but just a bit. I'm quite sure it was a lot less, but since i didn't count... i don't know.
So... as incredible as it may have seem (to me), the clear time without styles is... good.
BUT!!!
Unlike yesterday that i used the Axe for the clear, today i had to keep my attention on the game more.
I think that the difference is caused by the axe's raw power given to the counterattacks, that deal a lot more damage compared to the rapier.

Now... There are some parts that make the two clears non comparable.
The axe used was dark element (that is strong versus SGs) while the rapier has cold element (that has a small gain with the fire protection shield, but that's ONLY for when it's proked). But then again i had not used any ability points on dark imperil yesterday (forgot about it).

This is something that i'll be able to test better after i get 30 more soul fragments and i'll be able to equip the ethereal slaughter rapier.

For now, i think that we have slightly underestimated the stacked bleed effect.
Yes a rapier get's triple damage once you get penetration 3, while the axe has hardly double the damage of a rapier (still comparing slaughter axe and balance rapier though), but then again the axe get's free damage via bleed and the extra damage is there 100% and not only when you stack penetration.
A good axe has a decent use and some pros by having that extra attack, specially on counterattacks. Otherwise i can't understand why i had such an easier time yesterday and why random enemies would drop so much faster, while today i would still have living enemies laying around after taking care of the SGs. After all the rapier also has parry to add to the mix, while the axe does not.
But then again... i'm comparing a slaughter axe with a balance rapier. So once we put a slaughter rapier on the mix.. yeah the rapier is a far better weapon.

Now... AAs clears also mean A LOT more draughts burned. So... Don't know if i can call this "efficient".
I'll have to try again tomorrow hoping i'll manage a rare clear without interruptions, but i'm sure the clear was if not faster, definitely not slower.
In my case where less attention and good clear speed is what i'm after, less cost efficiency is not a problem, but seriously... after a bit i had to recast Regen every single turn and it's duration would still be over before the round was!
If we add to this my usual need to cast imperil on every enemy (that i did NOT do on this clear) and the fact i swapped to a force shield from a buckler (hence more interference) BOY DO I BURN A LOT OF MANA!!!
I really hope Void will keep me as a costumer for a lot more time...



TL;DR: Normal attacks clear on SGs is fast unlike what i thought before. But not as cost efficient.
Axe clear is not to be discarded unless you have a good rapier.
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post Jan 6 2016, 17:45
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HVEquipComparison 0.6.4.4. + press T

1. 50,66 base damage + 18,28 base parry

2. 44,1 base damage + 17,02 base parry
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