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post Jan 5 2016, 11:46
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QUOTE(DarkerBlood @ Jan 5 2016, 12:35) *

Okay... so I accidentally bought a level 500 legendary for 30k credits when I was trying to buy the item right below it.

What should I do with it?


salvage/sell it back
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post Jan 5 2016, 11:47
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Jan 5 2016, 11:23) *

Mech has pretty average stats. If mech why not beast or reptilian?

As i remember mech has the strongest sp attack. The only problem its pier/slash, so against melee its not the best type and only very slow mage can get it. But mp attacks, melee damage and defense is also in top among "attacking" monsters. So i like mechanoids. If we look at someone like avion then we get:

~22% lower defense against mage
~46% lower base damage
~10-25% lower skill damage

After that mech indeed very good.
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post Jan 5 2016, 12:44
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10 2 Ichy resists your spell.
10 1 You cast Imperil.

9 2 Ichy resists your spell.
9 1 You cast Imperil.

8 2 Ichy resists your spell.
8 1 You cast Imperil.

6 2 Ichy resists your spell.
6 1 You cast Imperil.

5 2 Ichy resists your spell.
5 1 You cast Imperil.

3 2 Ichy resists your spell.
3 1 You cast Imperil.

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post Jan 5 2016, 12:59
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Elementals is always pain for imperil. Its good idea to use depr counter-resist on pf. Thats why native counter-resist/pen potency is good and elemental mages prefer willow staff. Minimal imperil time against 8+ monsters is very close to something like 3,1 t/round and without depr prof/much counter resists its easy 4+ or even 4,5+. Not so big difference, but with good gear its rly hard to get so much with forge and it also makes run more smooth without risky variance to dangerous many turns period where mp attacks is very likely.
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post Jan 5 2016, 13:27
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QUOTE(DarkerBlood @ Jan 5 2016, 16:35) *

Okay... so I accidentally bought a level 500 legendary for 30k credits when I was trying to buy the item right below it.

What should I do with it?

lvl up until 400 than soulfuse it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Jan 5 2016, 13:43
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QUOTE(piyin @ Jan 5 2016, 02:28) *

Hey guys... wanna do an auction with obsolete stuff... which one of these ones is good to be in there?:

i hope there won't be a conflict (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

QUOTE(karyl123 @ Jan 5 2016, 08:15) *

republish, and let the pop9 expunge it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

i thought the vigilante was binglo (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
oh well, whatever. at least i won't have to do the dirty work (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(jacquelope @ Jan 5 2016, 10:05) *

Well hot diggity, can't wait for next Christmas!

you can even donate to have all those at once. and much more (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(izpekopon @ Jan 5 2016, 11:44) *

as nec said, Ichy is an Elemental with already decent magic-oriented stats on its own, and heavily chaosed by a catgirl troll (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
probably you'd better hope in splash Imperil rather than direct one when dealing with it...
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post Jan 5 2016, 17:38
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Tried to clear DwD on Pf using 1h Axe (magnificent demonic axe of slaughter).
The clear speed.. i don't know. I was getting called all the time and had to leave the pc, but the feeling was... more or less the same clear speed as my rapier.
Attention? Minimum. Imperil on the SGs and let the axe do the job with the bleeding stacking.
Rounds... a lot more of course.

Impressions? Good.
Was watching youtube most of the time while the bleeding and the axe's damage would do the job, while with the rapier i have to use special moves and keep my hands and attention on the keyboard and the screen.

Conclusions? Ok, it's not worth. Many more rounds. A lot more draughts consumed. NOT cost efficient.
But i'm not discarding it. DwD clear without me having to keep my attention on the game is actually a welcomed change. Will definitely try it again.
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post Jan 5 2016, 17:49
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QUOTE(Epion @ Jan 5 2016, 17:38) *

Was watching youtube most of the time while the bleeding and the axe's damage would do the job, while with the rapier i have to use special moves and keep my hands and attention on the keyboard and the screen.


You can not use special moves with rapier and get ~ same speed (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jan 5 2016, 17:56
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QUOTE(Epion @ Jan 5 2016, 16:38) *

Tried to clear DwD on Pf using 1h Axe (magnificent demonic axe of slaughter).
The clear speed.. i don't know. I was getting called all the time and had to leave the pc, but the feeling was... more or less the same clear speed as my rapier.
Attention? Minimum. Imperil on the SGs and let the axe do the job with the bleeding stacking.
Rounds... a lot more of course.

Impressions? Good.
Was watching youtube most of the time while the bleeding and the axe's damage would do the job, while with the rapier i have to use special moves and keep my hands and attention on the keyboard and the screen.

Conclusions? Ok, it's not worth. Many more rounds. A lot more draughts consumed. NOT cost efficient.
But i'm not discarding it. DwD clear without me having to keep my attention on the game is actually a welcomed change. Will definitely try it again.

how come that you pay less attention when you have to cast Imperil all SGs? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Jan 5 2016, 18:08
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 5 2016, 15:56) *

how come that you pay less attention when you have to cast Imperil all SGs? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


Cast imperil, go back to the minimized screen on youtube, leave the mouse on the SG.
Repeat at the next one.

QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Jan 5 2016, 15:49) *

You can not use special moves with rapier and get ~ same speed (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Emm? What?

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post Jan 5 2016, 18:23
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He said you can simple use hover with rapier without any imperil/skill or something else and get same result.
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post Jan 5 2016, 18:32
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Ah!!
Well, since my slaughter count is still zero, i doubt i can (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
When i charge the spirit stance with the rapier the damage is really low.
Will try it tomorrow (probably) and see.
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post Jan 5 2016, 19:02
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jan 5 2016, 17:23) *

He said you can simple use hover with rapier without any imperil/skill or something else and get same result.

aye!

QUOTE(Epion @ Jan 5 2016, 17:32) *

Ah!!
Well, since my slaughter count is still zero, i doubt i can (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
When i charge the spirit stance with the rapier the damage is really low.
Will try it tomorrow (probably) and see.

slaughter is somehow not important if you have at least 0.82+ Power armors. the big deal is given when your weapon is IW10 and two or more among:
  • Spirit Stance: +100% damage
  • Heartseeker: +25% damage / +10% crit chance / +14% crit damage (if maxed at your level)
  • Overwhelming Strikes: +15% damage / +50% ACC / +10% Parry
stack. and in case we have a Rapier, we also have to add:
  • 1 stack: -25% mitigation = 75% residual mitigation = + 33% damage
  • 2 stack: -50% mitigation = 50% residual mitigation = +100% damage
  • 3 stack: -75% mitigation = 25% residual mitigation = +300% damage
in comparison to all these bonuses, 200~300 ADB aren't that much, isn't it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[edit]: added Rapier effect

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post Jan 5 2016, 19:14
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 5 2016, 17:02) *

in comparison to all these bonuses, 200~300 ADB aren't that much, isn't it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


What about 700? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jan 5 2016, 19:21
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QUOTE(Epion @ Jan 5 2016, 18:14) *

What about 700? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

right. i didn't even consider PA effect. if my math is right we should have:
  • 1 stack: -25% mitigation = 75% residual mitigation = + 33% damage
  • 2 stack: -50% mitigation = 50% residual mitigation = +100% damage
  • 3 stack: -75% mitigation = 25% residual mitigation = +300% damage
afaik 700 ADB out of 6000 or so is barely more than 10%. sorry, but... what are we speaking about? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jan 5 2016, 19:34
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 5 2016, 17:21) *

what are we speaking about? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


About [gelbooru.com] deep anal penetrations?

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post Jan 5 2016, 19:39
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Legendary Amber Power Armor of Balance

Junk or auction?
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post Jan 5 2016, 19:44
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QUOTE(Epion @ Jan 5 2016, 18:34) *

About [gelbooru.com] deep anal penetrations?

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lol. i remember that CG set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
apart the final prolapse is kind of funny how she has to walk to keep her stance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

QUOTE(jacquelope @ Jan 5 2016, 18:39) *

body slot and no Savage prefix. i don't see it as particularly appetible. but still, that ACC... mind to loan it for a few minutes please?

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post Jan 5 2016, 19:53
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 5 2016, 09:44) *

lol. i remember that CG set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
apart the final prolapse is kind of funny how she has to walk to keep her stance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
body slot and no Savage prefix. i don't see it as particularly appetible. but still, that ACC... mind to loan it for a few minutes please?

Ok tell me what you think!
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post Jan 5 2016, 19:53
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Auction. The balance power armors i have seen in auctions sold for a lot.
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