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post Dec 27 2015, 21:27
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QUOTE(kazsax11 @ Dec 27 2015, 19:22) *
A lot worse for me:
Don't forget proficiency. Unless both light prof and heavy prof are the same (and slotted), your results will be skewed.
QUOTE(xcaliber9999 @ Dec 27 2015, 19:27) *
Well planning to increase my income somehow so was wondering will investing in monster lab a good idea ? Currently have 14 monster so thinking to up their lvl via feeding them crystals. Now my question is -
Any significant PL upgrade past 200 will take literally years to pay off. Even though my income is more than most, I've given up. Unless you already have a near perfect set with all the upgrades and reasonable perks you'll ever want, it's not worth it.

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post Dec 27 2015, 22:18
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 28 2015, 00:57) *

Don't forget proficiency. Unless both light prof and heavy prof are the same (and slotted), your results will be skewed.Any significant PL upgrade past 200 will take literally years to pay off. Even though my income is more than most, I've given up. Unless you already have a near perfect set with all the upgrades and reasonable perks you'll ever want, it's not worth it.


Wow that was such a wonderful answer. Just what I needed to hear. thanks

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post Dec 27 2015, 23:53
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 27 2015, 20:09) *

Yeah, the only big reason to use heavy is so you can use Power, otherwise it's probably similar to or worse than Light.

A mix of power and plate (maybe shielding) it's probably still better than a shade/leather mix.

QUOTE(kazsax11 @ Dec 27 2015, 19:46) *

Thinking I should be focusing on getting a better weapon/upgrading my current gear?

I would just change everything, upgrading your current set is imho a waste of money when you can get for cheap vastly better gear.

I mean, just to randomly assemble some of the "less than 50k junk" I have around in my equip:
Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter
Legendary Mithril Kite Shield of Stoneskin
Legendary Shielding Plate Helmet of Dampening
Magnificent Amber Power Armor of Warding,
Magnificent Power Gauntlets of Balance,
Magnificent Power Leggings of Protection,
Magnificent Mithril Power Boots of Warding

You can probably get those kind of equipment for cheap.
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post Dec 28 2015, 00:30
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Dec 27 2015, 21:53) *

I'm only finding some EX power in WTS for 15~30k at best(level unassigned), most mag are way higher or level 400+ equip level >.<
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post Dec 28 2015, 00:34
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QUOTE(kazsax11 @ Dec 28 2015, 01:30) *

I'm only finding some EX power in WTS for 15~30k at best(level unassigned), most mag are way higher or level 400+ equip level >.<


so buy it,ex is a decent to start power slaughter
Good mag power slaughter costs much more

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post Dec 28 2015, 00:39
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QUOTE(kazsax11 @ Dec 27 2015, 23:30) *

I'm only finding some EX power in WTS for 15~30k at best(level unassigned), most mag are way higher or level 400+ equip level >.<

Really?
Consider than unassigned is only good for slaughter, pre-patch non slaughter was much worse than current one.

Anyway, I should definitely open up a shop, I have a bunch of equipment I'm neither using nor going to use.
Let's see if I manage to open it up in the next hours or so.
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post Dec 28 2015, 01:27
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Dec 28 2015, 01:39) *

Really?
Consider than unassigned is only good for slaughter, pre-patch non slaughter was much worse than current one.

Anyway, I should definitely open up a shop, I have a bunch of equipment I'm neither using nor going to use.
Let's see if I manage to open it up in the next hours or so.


lol, Im giving everything to the Bazar which has only 2 Attributes or isnt likely to sell ^^ way to bothersome to put it into a shop and sell it for 10k ^^ shop gives 4-6k
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post Dec 28 2015, 01:30
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Dec 28 2015, 00:27) *

lol, Im giving everything to the Bazar which has only 2 Attributes or isnt likely to sell ^^ way to bothersome to put it into a shop and sell it for 10k ^^ shop gives 4-6k

Power of slaughter with 2 attributes should actually sell.
Apart from that I just bazaar everything with 2 attributes too.
Anyway, shop opened, if kazsax11 wants to take a look.
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post Dec 28 2015, 01:48
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Dec 27 2015, 23:30) *

Power of slaughter with 2 attributes should actually sell.
Apart from that I just bazaar everything with 2 attributes too.
Anyway, shop opened, if kazsax11 wants to take a look.

Yup =P
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post Dec 28 2015, 02:27
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QUOTE(simrock87 @ Dec 27 2015, 18:18) *

- snip -

yep, all clear, i only wanted to know how you earned it - basically IA4 and RR (which should be less or more the same than having Gold Star regeneration bonus) + an eye on ITR.
but thanks for the full explanation anyways, i guess it may be interesting for many other people (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 27 2015, 20:27) *

Don't forget proficiency. Unless both light prof and heavy prof are the same (and slotted), your results will be skewed.

yep. and considering that Heavy proficiencies significantly boost HP and mitigations, it's not that little of a matter

QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Dec 27 2015, 22:53) *

A mix of power and plate (maybe shielding) it's probably still better than a shade/leather mix.

only reason i may find for using a Shielding plate is to boost your Block a bit while waiting for Better Block ability to be unlocked. afterall, i bet you'll lose too much ADB for a very marginal block boost: due to multiplicative addition it's better to have only one high Block piece - the Shield: if you try with whatever armor, you'll see that what you actually earn is something like 1/2 of that armor's block. on the other hand, ADB is additive, so what you (don't) see is exactly what you (do) lose
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post Dec 28 2015, 02:34
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 28 2015, 01:27) *

only reason i may find for using a Shielding plate is to boost your Block a bit while waiting for Better Block ability to be unlocked. afterall, i bet you'll lose too much ADB for a very marginal block boost: due to multiplicative addition it's better to have only one high Block piece - the Shield: if you try with whatever armor, you'll see that what you actually earn is something like 1/2 of that armor's block. on the other hand, ADB is additive, so what you (don't) see is exactly what you (do) lose

I agree, but I played with 4 + 1 (power + shielding) for like 50 levels and I can tell you that shielding plate is not bad at all when starting to go PFUDOR at low level and low forge.
The added block helps, but the best part is the increased defence and hp from plate.
The damage goes down but if you need to cure less the net result is not that bad.
After level 280 or 300 and with enough proficiencies the switch to full power is necessary to maximize clear speed.
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post Dec 28 2015, 03:08
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Hi im new here and i'm trying to start to play it seriously can you guys check my char ? any tip is welcome.

My stats and gear.

[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/dbrsRoF.jpg
[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/QfFZe0r.jpg

also i got this staff but don't play mage.. worth something ? or just sell shop ?

staff link: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1f58d1b998

im having a BIG problem of NEVER getting a weapon upgrade... is it normal ?

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post Dec 28 2015, 03:16
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QUOTE(formigao @ Dec 28 2015, 01:08) *
Hi im new here and i'm trying to start to play it seriously can you guys check my char ? any tip is welcome.

My stats and gear.

also i got this staff but don't play mage.. worth something ? or just sell shop ?

im having a BIG problem of NEVER getting a weapon upgrade... is it normal ?
The club is all right, Exq and prefixed, and at a level low enough that many would appreciate it. Of course it couldn't be sold for anything notable, but it's still OK. Same for the Mag Protection plate.

Usually it's easier to just post the equipment links, eg.
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=ef7c68f817

Your stats look OK, though you can decrease both Intel and Agi by 80% if you want. Intel is near useless, and Agi's benefits are gimped by heavy armor.
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post Dec 28 2015, 03:38
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QUOTE(formigao @ Dec 28 2015, 02:08) *

You may be able to get a lot of credits from that.
Recently a leg hallowed katalox of destruction went for 100M.
Yours is magnificent but it should still fetch a nice price.

QUOTE(formigao @ Dec 28 2015, 02:08) *

im having a BIG problem of NEVER getting a weapon upgrade... is it normal ?

Unfortunately it is (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Is a lot more common to buy upgrades than to find them.
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post Dec 28 2015, 03:57
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Dec 27 2015, 23:38) *

You may be able to get a lot of credits from that.
Recently a leg hallowed katalox of destruction went for 100M.
Yours is magnificent but it should still fetch a nice price.
Unfortunately it is (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Is a lot more common to buy upgrades than to find them.


For real ?

where can i try to sell it ?
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post Dec 28 2015, 04:37
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QUOTE(formigao @ Dec 28 2015, 01:57) *
For real ?

where can i try to sell it ?
WTS forum.
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post Dec 28 2015, 06:09
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Im using the latest FF now but im only getting around 1t/s which is horribly slow. Latency is ~300ms

Im thinking of switching to iron. what build is recommended? I tried 35 which someone recommended but it doesnt seem to respect the @include flags in userscripts.. e.g my RE script seems to work everywhere including google


edit1:trying out 47 now..
edit2: cant seem to get reloader to work on iron

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post Dec 28 2015, 07:04
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Im using the latest FF now but im only getting around 1t/s which is horribly slow. Latency is ~300ms

Im thinking of switching to iron. what build is recommended? I tried 35 which someone recommended but it doesnt seem to respect the @include flags in userscripts.. e.g my RE script seems to work everywhere including google
edit1:trying out 47 now..
edit2: cant seem to get reloader to work on iron

I'm using iron v41 & chrome portable v31 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

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post Dec 28 2015, 07:45
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I'm using iron v41 & chrome portable v31 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)



Manage to get it to work..wow my t/s went up by ALOT
however it seems like the icons blink when buffs are expiring non stop(very fast) when using reloader..any fix?


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post Dec 28 2015, 07:50
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 28 2015, 01:27) *

yep, all clear, i only wanted to know how you earned it - basically IA4 and RR (which should be less or more the same than having Gold Star regeneration bonus) + an eye on ITR.
but thanks for the full explanation anyways, i guess it may be interesting for many other people (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Well at least the time wasn't totally wasted then (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
The values i used were just for demonstration, in reality it took IA5 + RR + FoN + 400wis to just about break even.
So absolutely not worth it, but things you start and so on (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(Void Domain @ Dec 27 2015, 18:13) *

Get daimon duality first if you haven't already. The quiz perk is also good because its cheap and +damage.
Then I went for crystal and token perk because I like the monster lab, and then just get what you want probably asshater.

The others you mentioned are pretty useless, prof perk is good if you play mage. Force of nature can also increase your fighting power but its infinitely close to 0.

Already got DD and the other distantly combat related perks (even gone for FoN, see above, but +10% buff times actually feels quite nice) by now, thus asking about the new additions if there's anything in there that's worth it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
I guess i'll go for the quiz thing as it seems at least marginally useful, should i decide to go mage at some point.
On that note, the 24m FFD would cost are probably better invested towards getting some decent magey equipments first (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


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