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post Dec 26 2015, 16:09
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QUOTE(Darknessy @ Dec 26 2015, 21:57) *

I only recently managed to get IA1 lol

Current with 100 adept learning and IA1, what should i aim for next?

Still using light/1h/shield atm

Does anyone here swap gears?
e.g stoc for arena and 1h for RE
clearing long arenas with 1h is just ...'

For training, i would suggest getting AL to 150. Hath perks u can consider are IA2, VV,
U can try getting 21 Figurines for OFC.
OFC is pretty good with 1h style, improves ur clearing speed, since 1h lacks AOE.
I'm currently a mage, but when i need to do ring of blood, i would switch to my 1h.
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post Dec 26 2015, 16:14
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QUOTE(doom9ra @ Dec 26 2015, 15:08) *

you can buy it^_^

Unfortunately I can't buy it for ma katana because I soulfused it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

QUOTE(doom9ra @ Dec 26 2015, 15:08) *

or better change style to 1h untill 300(?),than upgrade proff to 250,then change back to niten

But my 1H proff is very weak. Isn't this going to be a problem?
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post Dec 26 2015, 16:31
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QUOTE(Dragon Ninja @ Dec 26 2015, 18:14) *

Unfortunately I can't buy it for ma katana because I soulfused it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
But my 1H proff is very weak. Isn't this going to be a problem?


no,1h proff will go up really fast,it's have a chance roll when:

a)attack
b)block/parry
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post Dec 26 2015, 16:31
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nvm

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post Dec 26 2015, 16:38
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Dec 26 2015, 07:52) *

I need 2-3 days to get 300k credits.

I bought IA1 pretty early on, using the first clear credit bonuses from arenas and ring of bloods (they really give a big burst in income early on).

When i was ur level (150s), i was advised to stay with light armor until around level 250, before switching to heavy (lower MP consumption and higher survivability with evade and resist).
Well.. i was stubborn and wanted the ADB boost from power armor, so i didn't listen.
My MP pots also took a beating then. i feel u.
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Yeah I was recommended the same but I wasn't feeling the light armor.....was using just as much mana (casting cure more frequently) and my stats didn't raise much in evade/block/parry (like less than 2% increase) so I failed to see the value and went back. Though I didn't take proficiency into mind at the time, I'm still happy with heavy armor though as I survive a lot of stuff I shouldn't be allowed to (aka 10 random encounter on nintendo with 9/10 created mobs lol)

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post Dec 26 2015, 16:54
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QUOTE(Therin86 @ Dec 26 2015, 22:38) *

Yeah I was recommended the same but I wasn't feeling the light armor.....was using just as much mana (casting cure more frequently) and my stats didn't raise much in evade/block/parry (like less than 2% increase) so I failed to see the value and went back. Though I didn't take proficiency into mind at the time, I'm still happy with heavy armor though as I survive a lot of stuff I shouldn't be allowed to (aka 10 random encounter on nintendo with 9/10 created mobs lol)

Using light armor as opposed to heavy would get u more evade, resist chance, attack speed and lower mana cost.
block would depend on ur shield or shielding armor, parry depends on ur rapier/shortsword/waki and Dex PABs.
I don't think the difference in full light and heavy armor set would only be 2% evade.

IIRC the main reason why light armor was recommended for lower levels, is because of the resist chance to deal with nuke spells coming from pesky celestial mobs, and that at lower levels spirit shield isn't that effective at mitigating big numbers yet.

Personally, i don't regret switching to heavy armor as early as i did (around level 150++).

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post Dec 26 2015, 16:57
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QUOTE(Dragon Ninja @ Dec 26 2015, 13:56) *
I'd like to have 250 proff on 2h and DW, but the gaining rate is so slow. I barely got 100 DW.
I am afraid I don't have patience for this (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Then you probably shouldn't be playing Niten in the first place. Prof is a huge source of damage, and if it's not capped, you're seriously gimping yourself.

Niten is not a good choice before level 350-ish, and even after that, once proficiency gain is less of an issue, it's still an ineffective style. 1h is better.
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post Dec 26 2015, 16:58
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QUOTE(Dragon Ninja @ Dec 26 2015, 13:49) *

Ever since I reached level 200, monsters often parry my attacks.
What do I have to improve/increase to reduce it?

My main weapon:
Legendary Ethereal Katana of Balance
My offhand weapon:
Legendary Ethereal Wakizashi of Balance

My stats:
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Proficiency gains are much more important than what numbers indicate.
I found that out, the times that i messed up my abilities settings.
When you play niten you DON'T gain any attacking proficiency, hence it's a style that you want to use when you move to a point in the game where you don't level up that often. So level 350-400 forth or whatever.
The more you go on with the levels, the more you will get high chaosed monsters against you, so they have higher % to make your life difficult. And yeah... we almost all had to deal with that pesky monster that evaded/parried/etc your attacks for 15+ turns making you want to throw our pc outside the window. I know i did... So IWing your equipment is actually something you will have to do. Better sooner than later.

As of now, niten is something you can play OF COURSE, but it's gonna be a mess. I highly advice to train your proficiency to cap or to swap to dw or 2h. Better dw. 1h is even more advised, but you can do fine with everything at the end.
Training is boring, but it helps. Get a couple of secondary trash weapons, break them (remove your equip and only equip the weapons to break, join a GF or IW and die on purpose making them lose quality till they break), now equip a secondary armor set with good defense values (no shade armor, just a mag/legendary leather armor of whatever) and then join fights on crude level equip IW, fight the first round without completing it (flee before you kill all monsters) and repeat. With a broken weapon you do very little damage, your equip does not boost your damage either, at the 1st round you take little to no damage for quite a bit and since you flee before completing the round you don't waste your stamina.
When you are at the proficiency cap, go on with the game for 5-10 levels and then repeat the training to cap your prof.
Also don't leave deprecating behind. "Silence" is a Godsend spell for DW/Niten.
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post Dec 26 2015, 17:06
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QUOTE(Dragon Ninja @ Dec 26 2015, 14:49) *

Ever since I reached level 200, monsters often parry my attacks.
What do I have to improve/increase to reduce it?

My main weapon:
Legendary Ethereal Katana of Balance
My offhand weapon:
Legendary Ethereal Wakizashi of Balance

My stats:
[postimg.org] (IMG:[s3.postimg.org] http://s3.postimg.org/5ppzp045r/stats.jpg)

1) assign EXP points. keeping all stats even may be fine but definitely start to do it.
2) play DW to raise prof.
3) IW your weapons.
4) while you're at it, replace katana. preferably Slaughter, but even a 0.82 Balance one has better rolls (in particular ADB)

but personally at your level i'd stick with 1H
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post Dec 26 2015, 17:09
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 26 2015, 22:57) *

Then you probably shouldn't be playing Niten in the first place. Prof is a huge source of damage, and if it's not capped, you're seriously gimping yourself.

Niten is not a good choice before level 350-ish, and even after that, once proficiency gain is less of an issue, it's still an ineffective style. 1h is better.

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Niten
Generally only good for new (below lv.100) or advanced (above lv.300) players.

I think this might be bad advice coming from the wiki.
Recommending people to play niten that early on.
They play niten for a good 100 levels without getting any weapon proficiency, then switch over to a totally fresh 0 proficiency new style. I think they would be better off playing 2h or even 1h and gaining proficiency as they level up.

What do u guys think?
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post Dec 26 2015, 17:12
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How can it be that every time he writes about the same topic i'm writing completing it always 1 min before me? o_O
Coincidence? I THINK... yes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Anyway... used 1Stocking Stuffers finding... nothing... (exquisite kite shield) so i expect the other 2 to also give me exquisite. Dunno about the heart. A magnificent?
I'm... perplexed about using them or not at the end. What do you guys think. There is a chance someone will buy those soon enough or do i have to wait for 2 years for them to have value.
I desperately nee a good shield (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
(Yeah, i know that W's auction had the shield i'm looking for, but i only support Aria's auctions).

QUOTE(izpekopon @ Dec 26 2015, 15:09) *

I think this might be bad advice coming from the wiki.
Recommending people to play niten that early on.
They play niten for a good 100 levels without getting any weapon proficiency, then switch over to a totally fresh 0 proficiency new style. I think they would be better off playing 2h or even 1h and gaining proficiency as they level up.

What do u guys think?


I think wiki has so many mistakes i stopped visiting it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Trying to manage the rating toplist for this month and 50% of the wiki's advice are wrong (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)(((

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post Dec 26 2015, 17:15
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Dec 26 2015, 16:09) *

I think this might be bad advice coming from the wiki.
Recommending people to play niten that early on.
They play niten for a good 100 levels without getting any weapon proficiency, then switch over to a totally fresh 0 proficiency new style. I think they would be better off playing 2h or even 1h and gaining proficiency as they level up.

What do u guys think?

well, i played niten for a good while when low-level. it was indeed very good because of two strikes at once + domino strike, but now there are way better options
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post Dec 26 2015, 17:18
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QUOTE(Epion @ Dec 26 2015, 23:12) *

How can it be that every time he writes about the same topic i'm writing completing it always 1 min before me? o_O
Coincidence? I THINK... yes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Anyway... used 1Stocking Stuffers finding... nothing... (exquisite kite shield) so i expect the other 2 to also give me exquisite. Dunno about the heart. A magnificent?
I'm... perplexed about using them or not at the end. What do you guys think. There is a chance someone will buy those soon enough or do i have to wait for 2 years for them to have value.
I desperately nee a good shield (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
(Yeah, i know that W's auction had the shield i'm looking for, but i only support Aria's auctions).
I think wiki has so many mistakes i stopped visiting it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Trying to manage the rating toplist for this month and 50% of the wiki's advice are wrong (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)(((

Whats ur current shield?
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post Dec 26 2015, 17:23
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Magnificent Buckler of the Barrier
It's good and all, but not something i can call final, so any more upgrades will only be wasted.

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post Dec 26 2015, 17:24
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QUOTE(Epion @ Dec 26 2015, 16:12) *

I'm... perplexed about using them or not at the end. What do you guys think. There is a chance someone will buy those soon enough or do i have to wait for 2 years for them to have value.

is currently being bought for ~350k at WTB. i don't think they will be valued much more in the future since Stony alone is making the prices for these things.
as for stuffers, their current price is quite right - same tier as noodlies, same price as noodlies

QUOTE(Epion @ Dec 26 2015, 16:12) *

(Yeah, i know that W's auction had the shield i'm looking for, but i only support Aria's auctions).

may i ask you which kind of reasoning is this? if one auctioneer has a good thing, i bid on it, stop.
i stop only when it goes above my budget, not if the auctioneer is xxx rather than yyy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

QUOTE(Epion @ Dec 26 2015, 16:12) *

I think wiki has so many mistakes i stopped visiting it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Trying to manage the rating toplist for this month and 50% of the wiki's advice are wrong (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)(((

well, you have to consider it's a continuous WIP & the only sure news come from patch threads. there are indeed many mistakes but it's quite the big work to do
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post Dec 26 2015, 17:27
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 26 2015, 15:24) *
may i ask you which kind of reasoning is this? if one auctioneer has a good thing, i bid on it, stop.
i stop only when it goes above my budget, not if the auctioneer is xxx rather than yyy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
Indeed, that's absurd.
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post Dec 26 2015, 17:27
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 26 2015, 15:24) *

may i ask you which kind of reasoning is this? if one auctioneer has a good thing, i bid on it, stop.
i stop only when it goes above my budget, not if the auctioneer is xxx rather than yyy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


One has the right to prove his madness (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Jokes aside, I have... a bone to pick with W so i'm not leaving him anymore credits (the % they keep from the sales). That's all.
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post Dec 26 2015, 17:30
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QUOTE(Epion @ Dec 26 2015, 23:23) *

Magnificent Buckler of the Barrier
It's good and all, but not something i can call final, so any more upgrades will only be wasted.

ic, was gonna offer u this.

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 26 2015, 23:24) *

is currently being bought for ~350k at WTB. i don't think they will be valued much more in the future since Stony alone is making the prices for these things.
as for stuffers, their current price is quite right - same tier as noodlies, same price as noodlies

Just bought a heart locket from bazaar for 10k, i wasn't fast enough to grab the poor dog lol. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 26 2015, 23:27) *

Indeed, that's absurd.

Maybe its bcos aria uses a cute girl pic while wannaf uses some old dude pic (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Dec 26 2015, 17:31
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QUOTE(Epion @ Dec 26 2015, 16:27) *

One has the right to prove his madness (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

undoubtly. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
but well, we're in democracy, so feel free...
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post Dec 26 2015, 17:35
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Dec 26 2015, 16:30) *

Just bought a heart locket from bazaar for 10k, i wasn't fast enough to grab the poor dog lol. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

you know, you're quite lucky. i'm looking Bazaar quite a few these days as well, but no Locket appears (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

QUOTE(izpekopon @ Dec 26 2015, 16:30) *

Maybe its bcos aria uses a cute girl pic while wannaf uses some old dude pic (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

no cleavages from aria as well, so the problem doesn't exist (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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