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post Dec 23 2015, 00:55
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Well, income is much higher. Only daily stamina (70k for 10 points) is 168k. We used to it, but in reality we always exchange this part.
I think income of all pf arenas with sg is 300k+ (not profit, because we get free stamina and there is no sense to subtract it). Maybe even something like 400k+ with hidden drop value, because from time to time we get decent gear on pf. Even if its once/year for 10m then its still almost 30k/day. 1m/month is another 30k. We cant see it each day, but one day it drops. However, 400k is probably too high.

I can check it later.

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post Dec 23 2015, 01:13
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Dec 22 2015, 20:53) *

that quite high crit chance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

just wondering , how high fully forged crit chance in balance set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
btw , elu dicari dipsi disebelah , ryl (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


perkiraan 70%+


QUOTE(Void Domain @ Dec 22 2015, 21:09) *

heartseeker is 10%, 10% at 60 gives you 64% crit.

errr, not 66% ?
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post Dec 23 2015, 03:28
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Is there a way to get the base stats for something that has been upgraded at the forge?

I had a weapon drop tonight, and I would like to compare it to my current one, but it has a few upgrades at the forge, and I don't remember what the original stats were.
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post Dec 23 2015, 03:38
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QUOTE(bitleech @ Dec 23 2015, 01:28) *
Is there a way to get the base stats for something that has been upgraded at the forge?

I had a weapon drop tonight, and I would like to compare it to my current one, but it has a few upgrades at the forge, and I don't remember what the original stats were.
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/The_Forge#Upgrade
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post Dec 23 2015, 05:10
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QUOTE(karyl123 @ Dec 23 2015, 07:13) *

perkiraan 70%+
errr, not 66% ?

I am actually not sure.
From the wiki Phys. Crit Chance = (1 - 0.95 * (1 - equipment_bonus) * (1 - proficiency_bonus) * (3750 / (3750 + DEX + STR / 2))) * Max(1 - (Max(Burden - 70, 0) * 0.02)^1.5, 0)

you can see it just sticks all the not crit together from equip and prof. It can be 70 or 64 but should not be 66.
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post Dec 23 2015, 06:17
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How does sets as a mage generally look like?
Super kind of put the idea of looking into it in my head, but I wouldn't know where to start
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post Dec 23 2015, 06:27
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QUOTE(scrateur @ Dec 23 2015, 04:17) *
How does sets as a mage generally look like?
Super kind of put the idea of looking into it in my head, but I wouldn't know where to start
A staff of the right type (one that has EDB for your element), with the same elemental prefix as your element, and with a useful suffix (Destruction, EDB, proficiency, maybe Focus if you can't find anything else).

Then, some combination of Phase and proficiency armor. If you Imperil, then as elemental mage, you probably shouldn't use more than one prof slot, because more wastes some potential Phase EDB and may not lower monster mitigation if you've forged some. If you don't Imperil, or if you're Holy/Dark, 3 Phase + 2 Prof is a good combination, so you can reduce monster mitigation to a manageable level. Against schoolgirls on high difficulty, and against FSM, if you use MagNet, you might keep a Phase or two to replace your proficiency gears with on those battles, since MagNet would eliminate the counter-resist bonus provided by proficiency.
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post Dec 23 2015, 06:35
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QUOTE(bitleech @ Dec 23 2015, 09:28) *

Is there a way to get the base stats for something that has been upgraded at the forge?

I had a weapon drop tonight, and I would like to compare it to my current one, but it has a few upgrades at the forge, and I don't remember what the original stats were.

QUOTE(oohmrparis @ May 26 2015, 17:07) *
Attached File  HVEquipComparison_0.6.4.3_for_ELP.user.zip ( 23.46k ) Number of downloads: 1401
T and R key works only popup has 'Upgrades and Enchantments' pages.

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HentaiVerse Equipment Comparison
Allows to compare pieces of equipment.

Hover over an item (so the stats popup shows up) and press:
Q to compare it against the one equipped on the matching slot
W to show base values (scaled to level 0)
E to compare base values
R to compare the non-IW, non-forge base values against the one equipped on the matching slot
T to show non-IW, non-forge base values (scaled to level 0)
P to open EHWiki Equipment Range page and highlight relevant row.

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post Dec 23 2015, 09:38
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Income from 25-100 rounds arenas:

113k credits (with clear bonuses)
45k artifacts
30k ordinary gear
15k crystals with x5 bonus
10k trophies
6k shards

Something around 219k. Actually for such amount of monsters maybe even 4 arti is more fair, so slightly higher is ok too.
After sg ive got 390k income. And plus 25k noodly. Its exactly daily stamina. So actually 400k was even quite low amount if player has high arti training.


QUOTE(Void Domain @ Dec 23 2015, 06:10) *

Phys. Crit Chance


Evade with sv counting in reduced way, so i think crit also has 1-0,9*(1-crit chance) type. This way its 64%.

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post Dec 23 2015, 12:14
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 23 2015, 12:27) *
if you're Holy/Dark, 3 Phase + 2 Prof is a good combination, so you can reduce monster mitigation to a manageable level.


Why 3+2 for Holy/Dark? I assume this means the target is to reach 1.0 prof factor even at the cost of sacrificing edb.

Are you assuming that holy/dark will not use Imperil?
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post Dec 23 2015, 12:15
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just finished all non-SG arenas. . .(around 4 400 monsters killed)
1 art. . .
No luck today

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post Dec 23 2015, 12:29
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http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=b324ffa730
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=c53406adcb
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=80b4a42b95

3leg drops,how much ~it costs?

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post Dec 23 2015, 12:35
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Sell the leather, salvage the cotton.
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post Dec 23 2015, 12:36
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Dec 23 2015, 10:14) *
Why 3+2 for Holy/Dark? I assume this means the target is to reach 1.0 prof factor even at the cost of sacrificing edb.

Are you assuming that holy/dark will not use Imperil?
That's what nec1986 said a few days ago, with or without Imperil. I think the idea was to get more proficiency as long as it increases mitigation reduction and counter-resist, but [hvlist.niblseed.com] looking at the distribution of mitigations, 3 + 2 looks like too much with Imperil. Most monsters have ~53 or less holy/dark mitigation, though some have more, up to 70 (and some 2250s with 75). After Imperil, mitigation needs to be reduced by 28 for most monsters to be reduced to 0 mitigation, or a prof_factor of 0.68, which is similar to ideal elemental prof, where perk + (4 + 1) + forge is enough.

I think you're right, the additional EDB loss probably isn't worth additional mitigation reduction on only a fraction of the monsters. Unless the player is playing without Imperil, in which case 3 + 2 is needed, of course.
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post Dec 23 2015, 12:41
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Dec 23 2015, 13:35) *

Sell the leather, salvage the cotton.


Sell to bazaar?or try auction?
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post Dec 23 2015, 13:26
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QUOTE(doom9ra @ Dec 23 2015, 11:41) *

Sell to bazaar?or try auction?

Bazaar.
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post Dec 23 2015, 13:32
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Dec 23 2015, 14:26) *

Bazaar.


ok,thanks!
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post Dec 23 2015, 15:34
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Dec 19 2015, 22:23) *

Your cap has 7,97 prof and wiki Lmax is 8,27
Your pants has 9,02 prof and wiki Lmax is 9,04
Its slightly wrong ranges, but you can see pants is better and second reason is because you use fire (high fire mitg is more common). Actually i d even advice robe as slot, but your robe doesnt have very good prof roll. Anyway pants should be fine and i use even gloves with fire. This one:
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=ab8af5bc66

Its 7,37 with 6,9 max in wiki (here you can see wiki has lower ranges). With prof perk it works fine.

Found a better Robe off the Bazaar, so i should forge this instead of the previously said Pants?
If i plan to use 3+2 using robe + pants as prof cloth, do i give up too much EDB in the process, or would it be better to go for something like robe + cap or shoes instead?
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post Dec 23 2015, 15:36
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When shrining, what is the expected ED rate? About 15%?
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post Dec 23 2015, 15:38
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Just a reminder - my cuirass http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=7e6a52fd99 is available on Aria's auction :3
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