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post Dec 21 2015, 08:47
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QUOTE(The Magi @ Dec 21 2015, 13:20) *

I always wondered - Is balance set any good? Better than protection or slaughter?

slaughter still better (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

but balance build is cheaper than slaughter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Dec 21 2015, 09:10
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QUOTE(The Magi @ Dec 21 2015, 07:20) *

I always wondered - Is balance set any good? Better than protection or slaughter?

a slaughter build is a good thing when you don't have trouble surviving. but still, i'd like to try one or two Leg Savage of Balance mixed in...
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post Dec 21 2015, 09:13
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I still have my stocking stuffers, from last year. (I hoard everything) If I don't use them will I get more this year?
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post Dec 21 2015, 09:50
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I still have my stocking stuffers, from last year. (I hoard everything) If I don't use them will I get more this year?


You will get something whether you use them or not.
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post Dec 21 2015, 10:41
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Dec 21 2015, 02:19) *

I once said something like this myself. Unfortunately it was in the presence of someone who was an expert in asymmetric cryptology.

I spent hours washing egg off my face.

Asymmetric cryptography is all about math (you need a function "easy" to calculate but incredibly hard to reverse), but the fact is that you don't really need to know how it work to use it.

Coming back to HV, I always wondered about something, what's the main difference between holy and dark mage?
I'm pretty sure holy is considered better, but shouldn't they be pretty much equal?
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post Dec 21 2015, 10:51
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Dec 21 2015, 09:41) *

Coming back to HV, I always wondered about something, what's the main difference between holy and dark mage?
I'm pretty sure holy is considered better, but shouldn't they be pretty much equal?

the effect they proc: if i read the table right Holy brings to a further 10% mitigation reduction (plus specific Dark vulnerability), while Dark brings to a 10% incoming damage reduction (plus specific Holy vulnerability)

it seems to me that apart for the subsequent vulnerability Dark is a bit redundant with Fire at this point (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Dec 21 2015, 10:52
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Dec 21 2015, 08:41) *
Asymmetric cryptography is all about math (you need a function "easy" to calculate but incredibly hard to reverse), but the fact is that you don't really need to know how it work to use it.

Coming back to HV, I always wondered about something, what's the main difference between holy and dark mage?
I'm pretty sure holy is considered better, but shouldn't they be pretty much equal?
Breached Defense > Blunted Attack. Though the effect is probably only very that noticible on IWBTH and PF, since in lower difficulties many monsters will be dead after the first T3 anyway. Breached Defense is also great in high difficulty SG arenas, since it means some 9% more damage (compared to the usual 4%?? more damage).

Blunted Attack isn't bad, but more damage is more useful than more defense for mage.
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post Dec 21 2015, 10:55
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 21 2015, 16:51) *

the effect they proc: if i read the table right Holy brings to a further 10% mitigation reduction (plus specific Dark vulnerability), while Dark brings to a 10% incoming damage reduction (plus specific Holy vulnerability)

it seems to me that apart for the subsequent vulnerability Dark is a bit redundant with Fire at this point (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

yeah, have to agree on that. What if the fire spike from protection shield stack with the dark debuff?

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post Dec 21 2015, 10:57
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 21 2015, 09:52) *

Breached Defense > Blunted Attack. Though the effect is probably only very that noticible on IWBTH and PF, since in lower difficulties many monsters will be dead after the first T3 anyway. Breached Defense is also great in high difficulty SG arenas, since it means some 9% more damage (compared to the usual 4%?? more damage).

Blunted Attack isn't bad, but more damage is more useful than more defense for mage.

speaking of which, how good is that -25 Dark reduction? how big is the effect of explosions for a high-level mage?

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post Dec 21 2015, 10:59
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 21 2015, 08:57) *
speaking of which, how good is that -25 Dark reduction? how big is the effect of explosions for a high-level mage?
Zero. You'd lose more time and damage trying to micro different elements than if you were to continuously spellspam one element.
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post Dec 21 2015, 11:03
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 21 2015, 16:57) *

you forgot Imperil (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

What i meant was the 'Searing Skin' and 'Blunted Attack' debuff both stacking together, since they both have the same effect 'Damage reduction: 10%'.
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post Dec 21 2015, 11:11
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 21 2015, 07:10) *

a slaughter build is a good thing when you don't have trouble surviving. but still, i'd like to try one or two Leg Savage of Balance mixed in...


Don't bother. One balance piece in the mix can help a little, but more are almost totally useless. It's a cheap build but at best it can help for better style usage for SG arenas and nothing much more.
Tried it for a bit since i don't have the credits for slaughter. Next day was back to the protection set.
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post Dec 21 2015, 11:14
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QUOTE(Epion @ Dec 21 2015, 09:11) *
Don't bother. One balance piece in the mix can help a little, but more are almost totally useless. It's a cheap build but at best it can help for better style usage for SG arenas and nothing much more.
Tried it for a bit since i don't have the credits for slaughter. Next day was back to the protection set.
I think so too, protection > balance for less than high level 1h because accuracy is unimportant given OS and incoming damage is still a moderate problem.
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post Dec 21 2015, 11:15
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QUOTE(Epion @ Dec 21 2015, 17:11) *

Don't bother. One balance piece in the mix can help a little, but more are almost totally useless. It's a cheap build but at best it can help for better style usage for SG arenas and nothing much more.
Tried it for a bit since i don't have the credits for slaughter. Next day was back to the protection set.

Well, there's always the half-fuck 2 PAB slaughter set (just cause i can't afford that 1 more PAB LOL).
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If someone in the EH gallery asks for similar uploads of the same genre, and if i give him link using the comment function, would it be bad practice or against the rules in anyway?

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post Dec 21 2015, 11:20
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Dec 21 2015, 09:15) *
If someone in the EH gallery asks for similar uploads of the same genre, and if i give him link using the comment function, would it be bad practice or against the rules in anyway?
Given that even commenters who do absolutely nothing but troll galleries they don't like don't get banned, I think it's a pretty sure bet that you can post anything and no one will care. Worst result is that your comment will get downvoted, but if you're attempting to provide semi useful information I don't see why that would happen.
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post Dec 21 2015, 11:22
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If someone in the EH gallery asks for similar uploads of the same genre, and if i give him link using the comment function, would it be bad practice or against the rules in anyway?


Not at all. That would be considered an informative comment.
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post Dec 21 2015, 11:25
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 21 2015, 17:20) *

Given that even commenters who do absolutely nothing but troll galleries they don't like don't get banned, I think it's a pretty sure bet that you can post anything and no one will care. Worst result is that your comment will get downvoted, but if you're attempting to provide semi useful information I don't see why that would happen.

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Not at all. That would be considered an informative comment.

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post Dec 21 2015, 12:05
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 21 2015, 09:52) *

Breached Defense > Blunted Attack. Though the effect is probably only very that noticible on IWBTH and PF, since in lower difficulties many monsters will be dead after the first T3 anyway. Breached Defense is also great in high difficulty SG arenas, since it means some 9% more damage (compared to the usual 4%?? more damage).

Blunted Attack isn't bad, but more damage is more useful than more defense for mage.

Isn't that partly countered by willow (of destruction) having higher damage than oak?
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post Dec 21 2015, 12:21
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Dec 21 2015, 10:05) *
Isn't that partly countered by willow (of destruction) having higher damage than oak?
With lots of forge, probably. Hallowed Katalox of Destruction is another option, which I think is better than Oak but still doesn't have CR like Willow.
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post Dec 21 2015, 12:36
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 21 2015, 18:21) *

I got very very lucky today. Perfect 5/4 with only 52 shards spent. (Expected shards needed for 5/4 on staff: ~170)

Grats!
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