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aye. but personally i think that a bit of math, physic and more generally science would be useful to all.
i cannot find a good explanation for the high penetration of superstition (in all its variants, not limited only to triskaidekaphobia and such) apart for a low penetration of science and knowledge.

Off-topic warning, but this is one of the very few things I care deeply about and have been working with for years, so bear with me.

From what I've seen, one of the bigger reasons is that very few people are self-conscious about what they believe and why, nor do more than a few people think about whether their reasons for believing have foundations in objective reality, rather than (for instance) due to it being an interesting meme to believe, or due to it being what they happened to be taught first (it takes a massive amount of effort for anyone with an established belief to change it). Many modern popular ideas are attractive or convenient to believe, for various reasons. Problem is, only for a moderate subset of those ideas does there exist sufficient reason to believe that they may be true or right - and of those reasons, only a few are simple enough (or abstract enough) for a layperson to fully grasp.

Most everyone is used to trusting what they've been told or taught without examining it closely. While this may be convenient, a time-saver, human nature, and beneficial for a cohesive society, it also means that many less-than-true ideas have become very popular. Most nonfiction bestselling books attempting to convince the reader of anything related to religion/politics/society/sociology/anything technical do this sort of thing; only a small subset of the population has a solid enough foundation to examine such things thoroughly enough for belief to be justified, yet they're marketed to the general population. Same thing for a lot of nonfiction media in all its forms.

Unfortunately, a decent amount of introductory science is believed for similar reasons based somewhat on trust ("It's written in the textbook" "That's what my teachers said" "That's what Al Gore said").

I believe the issue comes down to lack of understanding of philosophy of knowledge (and the scientific method), rather than lack of scientific knowledge itself, which (while nice) doesn't get close enough to the root of the problem.

One of the reasons I like HV - it's all numbers, and everything can be proven given enough data and parsing ability, and anyone with a bit of math background can understand enough for belief to be justified - unlike most other topics where persuasion is used.

People are just lazy and like to tl;dr, of course I am too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Mostly because they are not interested in that subject, so they just take the info base on trust.

Those who work in tech and electronics need to keep their math foundation solid too.

While this is undoubtedly true the importance of math in IT (and probably in many other tech fields) is quite overstated.
It all boils down to the fact that most of the work does not involve math in any way, and it's probably more than enough to have a single "math guy" in a team to be completely covered.

And I'm saying this because I don't want anyone to think that without being good at math he won't be able to get a work in the tech field, liking what you're doing is a million times more important than knowing math.

Most everyone is used to trusting what they've been told or taught without examining it closely.

True, but sometime it gets even worse.
It's not like most of the people believe something because they did not examine the issue from all the various points, they believe something because the person they find more trustworthy said so.
It's human nature and I fear this will never change.
Superstitions, conspiracy theories etc etc, they will never ever die.

Not everybody was born analyst. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

More than even math, I think people need better understanding of statistics so the next time some lazy journalist summarises a study with poor analysis he gets hundreds of letters telling him he's wrong and detailing how he's wrong

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Does this have any worth?

More than even math, I think people need better understanding of statistics so the next time some lazy journalist summarises a study with poor analysis he gets hundreds of letters telling him he's wrong and detailing how he's wrong

+1

hmm... so much to think about...

Off-topic warning, but this is one of the very few things I care deeply about and have been working with for years, so bear with me.

are you really saying this to a bear? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

From what I've seen, one of the bigger reasons is that very few people are self-conscious about what they believe and why, nor do more than a few people think about whether their reasons for believing have foundations in objective reality, rather than (for instance) due to it being an interesting meme to believe, or due to it being what they happened to be taught first (it takes a massive amount of effort for anyone with an established belief to change it). Many modern popular ideas are attractive or convenient to believe, for various reasons. Problem is, only for a moderate subset of those ideas does there exist sufficient reason to believe that they may be true or right - and of those reasons, only a few are simple enough (or abstract enough) for a layperson to fully grasp.

and this leads to two different problems, which somehow are related: lack of external knowledge and lack of self-knowledge. both have effects on many aspects of our lives, and i'm pretty sure everyone of you have experienced some of those, so no need for me to enumerate only a few, which may made me appearing as too naive.
i'm also pretty sure - because i felt and saw it myself - that part of this is due to the fact that you somehow HAVE to fill what you cannot know/understand. the effects of not being able to do this may be simply destabilizing. and a bit of knowledge may help to build a safe ground - for example, why touching iron when you see an ambulance? why changing your road when you see a black cat? why taking orders about how to manage a family from people who have to keep their bachelor and cannot have sons?
obviously nobody may be able to reach a full knowledge, not even in a single one of its sides. but surely more knowledge may help to raise our self-knowledge

Most everyone is used to trusting what they've been told or taught without examining it closely. While this may be convenient, a time-saver, human nature, and beneficial for a cohesive society, it also means that many less-than-true ideas have become very popular. Most nonfiction bestselling books attempting to convince the reader of anything related to religion/politics/society/sociology/anything technical do this sort of thing; only a small subset of the population has a solid enough foundation to examine such things thoroughly enough for belief to be justified, yet they're marketed to the general population. Same thing for a lot of nonfiction media in all its forms.

it's a very convenient choice, but it's not logic. you should always doubt of what cannot be proven. or at least, this is what science taught me. obviously, you should also wonder whether science is a good path to follow. there isn't an universal answer for this, obviously - but at least science puts a doubt on its own actions. quite coherent, afaik (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Unfortunately, a decent amount of introductory science is believed for similar reasons based somewhat on trust ("It's written in the textbook" "That's what my teachers said" "That's what Al Gore said").

yep. and this is what qualifies even plot theories: finding a trustworthy source is enough to make people believe whatever you want. or at least, what may be considered a trustworthy source: "scientists said" - but which scientist? "that website said" - but everyone can write a website nowadays. what's a trustworthy source?
sometimes it also happens that history was made based on certain books. without even thinking about religion, if any of you ever read Divine Comedy, it's a book full of examples. one above all, Celestino V was known in all history as 'the man that made the big refusal [of being Pope] due to his cowardice'. fact is, he wasn't fitted for that work and after him an opponent of the author became Pope. but for many years (centuries?) this poor man was known as a coward. it seems obvious that this book isn't a trustworthy source because too personal. and so on (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I believe the issue comes down to lack of understanding of philosophy of knowledge (and the scientific method), rather than lack of scientific knowledge itself, which (while nice) doesn't get close enough to the root of the problem.

please note that we are on a porn site and speak about a hentai-related game. not wanting to offend anyone, it's not so immediate to understand it. i know the difference between the two things, but in order to introduce the subject you HAVE to simplify it a bit (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

People are just lazy and like to tl;dr, of course I am too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Mostly because they are not interested in that subject, so they just take the info base on trust.

as i previously said, the only problem is to find a trustworthy source. obviously it's not that little of a problem - wars spreaded for less than this, afterall

While this is undoubtedly true the importance of math in IT (and probably in many other tech fields) is quite overstated.
It all boils down to the fact that most of the work does not involve math in any way, and it's probably more than enough to have a single "math guy" in a team to be completely covered.

mind you, math doesn't necessarily involve numbers. even logic is math. and even set theory, which is one of the main pillars of computer science, afaik (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
but apart for this and to quote Galileo Galilei, math is simply a language - the language in which nature is written. basically, the big deal about numbers and operators doesn't revolve around operations, rather than on the fact that they themselves are a grammar. and where isn't grammar involved? btw, it's true that a simply math guy in a team can cover math subjects, but this is only due to the fact that everyone knows math until a certain extent (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

True, but sometime it gets even worse.
It's not like most of the people believe something because they did not examine the issue from all the various points, they believe something because the person they find more trustworthy said so.
It's human nature and I fear this will never change.
Superstitions, conspiracy theories etc etc, they will never ever die.

Not everybody was born analyst. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

true. but the mere fact of not being a lion doesn't automatically qualifies you as a sheep (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

More than even math, I think people need better understanding of statistics so the next time some lazy journalist summarises a study with poor analysis he gets hundreds of letters telling him he's wrong and detailing how he's wrong

speaking of which, how many people do actually know how many parameters are actually needed to summarize a statistic?
the amount of the sample involved, the standard deviation, the average... without any of these (and a few others, but i'm not a statistic myself so i cannot explain it well) a percentage means less than zero: on May 28, 45% of the people watched a soccer match and 55% a movie.
but did they ask you something when they were compiling this statistic? i wasn't asked anything, so three questions pop into my mind: how many people did they ask? and how is this sample made? is it varied enough? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

btw, did you know that thermodinamics and all its applications (including but not limited to combustion engines) heavily rely on statistic? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

mind you, math doesn't necessarily involve numbers. even logic is math. and even set theory, which is one of the main pillars of computer science, afaik (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
but apart for this and to quote Galileo Galilei, math is simply a language - the language in which nature is written. basically, the big deal about numbers and operators doesn't revolve around operations, rather than on the fact that they themselves are a grammar. and where isn't grammar involved? btw, it's true that a simply math guy in a team can cover math subjects, but this is only due to the fact that everyone knows math until a certain extent (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I was not writing off math as not important (I graduated from engineering after all), it's not that important, or, said in a different way, a basic understanding of math is pretty much essential everywhere, a deep knowledge is not.
In 4 years of work the most math-demanding task I've done was a pretty basic interpolation code.


Also, talking about statistic, apart from the correctness of the study in itself is also important to analyze the context of what you're predicting.
Not everything can be correctly predicted or analyzed (I've read black Taleb's Black Swan book this year, very interesting read btw).
The tl;dr, people needs to know statistics, the context, be smart and think about the conclusions of each study, piece of journalism, political campaign etc etc.
No way I see that happening (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by Sapo84: Dec 21 2015, 02:00

I was not writing off math as not important (I graduated from engineering after all), it's not that important, or, said in a different way, a basic understanding of math is pretty much essential everywhere, a deep knowledge is not.
In 4 years of work the most math-demanding task I've done was a pretty basic interpolation code.
Also, talking about statistic, apart from the correctness of the study in itself is also important to analyze the context of what you're predicting.
Not everything can be correctly predicted or analyzed (I've read black Taleb's Black Swan book this year, very interesting read btw).
The tl;dr, people needs to know statistics, the context, be smart and think about the conclusions of each study, piece of journalism, political campaing etc etc.
No way I see that happening (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

+1/0 (infinity symbol doesn't exist on phone)
way worse, if some people judge something as wrong without objective reason & concrete proof to counter that wrong conclusion in manly ways.

I was not writing off math as not important (I graduated from engineering after all), it's not that important, or, said in a different way, a basic understanding of math is pretty much essential everywhere, a deep knowledge is not.

pretty much what i'm saying. advanced math isn't so important, but basic math is almost mandatory nowadays.
and so it is basic knowledge of science, just to avoid the risk to be trapped in medieval-like beliefs

In 4 years of work the most math-demanding task I've done was a pretty basic interpolation code.

yep. only 1 year of work here but i know something as well. the most i used was a bit of derivatives, but it wasn't even asked by my boss. it's only that i wanted to better understand a certain phenomenon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Also, talking about statistic, apart from the correctness of the study in itself is also important to analyze the context of what you're predicting.
The tl;dr, people needs to know statistics, the context, be smart and think about the conclusions of each study, piece of journalism, political campaing etc etc.
No way I see that happening (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

yep, sadly. it seems that thinking is something that's better to be demanded to someone else nowadays

Hi, new player, I was wondering, how much is this worth? http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=49204a7ecd

thanks to anyone that will help me

Hi, new player, I was wondering, how much is this worth? http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=49204a7ecd

thanks to anyone that will help me

Wow, you are quite lucky for getting a legendary at such a low level.

If you want to use it, put it in offhand and use it with a rapier of slaughter in main hand (DW style).

If you don't plan to use it, put it in wannaf's or arliannoc's auction... though I would advise you to at least try to use it. You won't ever get such a weapon before a loooong time, it won't sell for that much (50k? 100k? Maybe 200k if you're lucky?), and almost all legendaries sold in stores and auctions are too high level for you to use.

Hi, new player, I was wondering, how much is this worth? http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=49204a7ecd

thanks to anyone that will help me

wont sell high. because I think, ppl who use balance set is me and fap.fap, izpekonpon maybe too

I was not writing off math as not important (I graduated from engineering after all), it's not that important, or, said in a different way, a basic understanding of math is pretty much essential everywhere, a deep knowledge is not.
In 4 years of work the most math-demanding task I've done was a pretty basic interpolation code.
Also, talking about statistic, apart from the correctness of the study in itself is also important to analyze the context of what you're predicting.
Not everything can be correctly predicted or analyzed (I've read black Taleb's Black Swan book this year, very interesting read btw).
The tl;dr, people needs to know statistics, the context, be smart and think about the conclusions of each study, piece of journalism, political campaign etc etc.
No way I see that happening (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I once said something like this myself. Unfortunately it was in the presence of someone who was an expert in asymmetric cryptology.

I spent hours washing egg off my face.

question, when usually the EH yolitude or whatever the name start ?

dec 25 ?

question, when usually the EH yolitude or whatever the name start ?

dec 25 ?

Last year, it started on dec 24

wont sell high. because I think, ppl who use balance set is me and fap.fap, izpekonpon maybe too

u were so close, but nope. one letter off LOL.
i don't dw, neither do i use balance. wrong person (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

wont sell high. because I think, ppl who use balance set is me and fap.fap, izpekonpon maybe too

I always wondered - Is balance set any good? Better than protection or slaughter?