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post Dec 18 2015, 21:45
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Thanks very much guys (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ! I also have one Token of Blood that dropped. Is it worth going through and doing the first challenge when I hit level 50?
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post Dec 18 2015, 21:55
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QUOTE(Epion @ Dec 18 2015, 17:02) *

When i think that it takes me 30 min to clear T&T...
Probably time for me to swap to mage as well (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

my clear time is similar as well, when i don't lose too much time browsing H

QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Dec 18 2015, 17:12) *

lol no.. you should learn how to play (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) or you are using Superior plate armour (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
no seriously.. even with simple Leg power of something and a fine Rapier you need rougly 16mins with mousemeele, where are your problems exactly to make it so long ?

at PF difficulty? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 18 2015, 17:25) *

command prompt
ping hentaiverse.org -n 30
Look at "time" stat. Hopefully it's under 200. If it's over 400, melee will not be worth playing. If there's a significant variance, that indicates there's a problem with the connection somewhere (eg. something else eating up all the bandwidth, or bad hardware).

just tried myself:

CODE
C:\>ping hentaiverse.org -n 30

Esecuzione di Ping hentaiverse.org [94.100.29.68] con 32 byte di dati:
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata=173ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata= 77ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata= 85ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata=195ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata=101ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata=110ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata=118ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata=126ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata=237ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata=143ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata=254ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata=263ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata=168ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata=279ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata=185ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata= 90ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata= 99ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata=107ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata=115ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata=124ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata=132ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata=140ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata=158ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata=260ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata=268ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata=111ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata=182ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata= 88ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata=198ms TTL=51
Risposta da 94.100.29.68: byte=32 durata=104ms TTL=51

Statistiche Ping per 94.100.29.68:
    Pacchetti: Trasmessi = 30, Ricevuti = 30,
    Persi = 0 (0% persi),
Tempo approssimativo percorsi andata/ritorno in millisecondi:
    Minimo = 77ms, Massimo =  279ms, Medio =  156ms


QUOTE(Nekokon @ Dec 18 2015, 17:53) *

I can only have around 2.6 t/s at max (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

uhu. i saw such t/s a couple of times as well (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(rubadubdubs @ Dec 18 2015, 20:45) *

Thanks very much guys (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ! I also have one Token of Blood that dropped. Is it worth going through and doing the first challenge when I hit level 50?

yep. not so difficult and the first clear will give you a bit of credits. do it at normal difficulty, not worth to do it further
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post Dec 18 2015, 22:00
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 18 2015, 19:55) *
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Uh oh. Something must be wrong. Hopefully it's just temporary.
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post Dec 18 2015, 22:03
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 18 2015, 21:00) *

Uh oh. Something must be wrong. Hopefully it's just temporary.

just retried - same results, if not worse. i'll retry tomorrow, provided i'll remember to do it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Dec 18 2015, 22:06
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Guys,link please rules for HV!



I don't know who died, but you have no prof that it was my doing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 18 2015, 19:55) *

my clear time is similar as well, when i don't lose too much time browsing H


Yeah, i have youtube with a smaller screen on the left lower side and watch there staff, while i scroll the mouce:

"Daniel-san... mouse up, mouse down... mouse up, mouse down... breath, very important"
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Ah good old times.

QUOTE(rubadubdubs @ Dec 18 2015, 19:45) *

Thanks very much guys (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ! I also have one Token of Blood that dropped. Is it worth going through and doing the first challenge when I hit level 50?


Actually the 1st ring of blood is a little tricky for most people. Probably cause it's the first monster you will fight with lots of hp.
Don't get me wrong. It IS very easy, but fight it with care. At level 50 it might give you the impression it's difficult, so be prepared. All the others till level 150 will be a piece of cake. Just don't let your guard down. And yeah there is no reasson at all to play at higher than "normal" difficulty the ring of blood.

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post Dec 18 2015, 22:27
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QUOTE(Epion @ Dec 18 2015, 21:06) *

All the others till level 150 will be a piece of cake.

not so sure. if you look carefully, on the paper RL is a real nightmare - and actually it's quite difficult at that level: +50 as all physical and +95 as all magical resistances, Void type as MP, SP and even standard attacks... should it have the same HP Tank of FSM or even IPU it will surely be the most powerful mob in the game. if nothing else, at least IPU and FSM have a weakness (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Dec 19 2015, 01:23
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Exquisite Jade Shade Breastplate of The Shadowdancer
worth at least 20K?)

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post Dec 19 2015, 01:50
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Exquisite, 2 PAB -> very unlikely
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post Dec 19 2015, 01:57
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QUOTE(name censored @ Dec 19 2015, 03:50) *

Exquisite, 2 PAB -> very unlikely


THanks!
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post Dec 19 2015, 01:58
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Guys,monsters with higher pl will have higher chance to bring bindings?

now i have celestial 347 PL will it worth,if i'll spend 300 k and will bring him to 615-625 PL???

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post Dec 19 2015, 02:51
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Okay so I'm doing IWBTH DwD for the second time and this is the HP of the SG's that I am encountering:

0 3 Spawned Monster B: MID=23 (Yuki Nagato) LV=314 HP=1569568

Last time it took me OVER 40 hits to kill a SG, this particular SG only took... 39. No doubt because my level went up since then and SG's have gotten stronger. So if I hadn't fought hard to increase my ABD to my target level of 5900 (I think I was at around 5100 when I last tried this) I would be WAY FAR BEHIND right now.

Talk about running in place.

FUN FACT: Even without evade, most of these early SG levels are 4 monsters and each and every round with a SG runs down my Overcharge until my spirit stance turns off. Which increases the number of hits needed to kill a SG.

ADDITIONAL FUN FACT: I fired off my Bubble-Gum and Flower Vase at LVL 76 when I started facing 2 SG's. For those of you who are going into this for the first time, Bubble-Gum + Flower Vase + Spirit Stance = Kill IWBTH SG's in JUST TEN HITS.

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post Dec 19 2015, 03:12
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QUOTE(doom9ra @ Dec 19 2015, 00:58) *

Guys,monsters with higher pl will have higher chance to bring bindings?

now i have celestial 347 PL will it worth,if i'll spend 300 k and will bring him to 615-625 PL???


I asked the same question few days ago and everybody said that bindings quality is not dependant on monster level. Theoretically even lvl 25 monsters can bring slaughters and destructions.
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post Dec 19 2015, 04:03
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QUOTE(cichy133 @ Dec 19 2015, 03:12) *

I asked the same question few days ago and everybody said that bindings quality is not dependant on monster level. Theoretically even lvl 25 monsters can bring slaughters and destructions.


And they have for me.


EDIT: For Dual-Wielding I've had a Club of Slaughter in my Main Hand and Rapier of Nimble in my Offhand, maxed-out Offhand chance. Should I switch that around?

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post Dec 19 2015, 04:36
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I'll rock em
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all night long

I'm the

HV Dovahkiin

And it took just under 2 hours to make this happen.
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post Dec 19 2015, 04:46
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Dec 19 2015, 04:36) *

I'll rock em
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I'm the

HV Dovahkiin

And it took just under 2 hours to make this happen.


fus ro dah rules!

i think a lot of ppl prefer to stick with godslayer for the 10% damage bonus, but not me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Dec 19 2015, 05:00
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Dec 19 2015, 01:51) *

FUN FACT: Even without evade, most of these early SG levels are 4 monsters and each and every round with a SG runs down my Overcharge until my spirit stance turns off. Which increases the number of hits needed to kill a SG.

That's pretty strange, I actually recharge OC during those rounds (permanent spirit stance + OC every 4 rounds or so).
The OC gain is the main reason I have forged the block chance a lot.
Also found that haste really cuts down the amount of OC gained (I know I'm the only one hating haste, but I find it completely useless apart from PFUDOR IW and Grindfest).


QUOTE(jacquelope @ Dec 19 2015, 03:36) *

And it took just under 2 hours to make this happen.

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Last DwD done (enchanted only for 30 minutes, so last rounds where with no holy strike, could have shaved 10s or so).
Nearly 2 hours for IWBTH seems an awful lot, even with a bad ping.

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i think a lot of ppl prefer to stick with godslayer for the 10% damage bonus, but not me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Well, for 1H is pretty much useless.

With fus ro dah you're missing:
10% damage and 3% evade (second is useless, but 10% damage is ~6% clearspeed in melee)
no way to use OFC (single click "I kill every non-boss-monster" skill)
~30 OC because stunned enemies cannot attack (also loss of counter-attack damage) (also the stun is fixed length so all the monsters have the first attack at the same time)

And if you spam it every 10 rounds you cannot perma spirit-stance, so I don't really think it has any real advantage over Godslayer + OFC for 1H style.


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post Dec 19 2015, 05:10
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Dec 19 2015, 03:00) *
Also found that haste really cuts down the amount of OC gained (I know I'm the only one hating haste, but I find it completely useless apart from PFUDOR IW and Grindfest).
You have a good point. Past a certain point, damage taken doesn't matter at all for 1h, and if your other buffs are on IA, the only significant downside to not using Haste is having to cast Regen and Heartseeker more often. So if a player is tanky enough and is facing mostly harmless schoolgirls, perhaps avoiding Haste and gaining more OC is the way to go.
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post Dec 19 2015, 05:17
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 19 2015, 04:10) *

You have a good point. Past a certain point, damage taken doesn't matter at all for 1h, and if your other buffs are on IA, the only significant downside to not using Haste is having to cast Regen and Heartseeker more often. So if a player is tanky enough and is facing mostly harmless schoolgirls, perhaps avoiding Haste and gaining more OC is the way to go.

Regen and Heartseeker are binded to the 4th and 5th mouse button, while they are not completely free I don't think it uses much more time than a normal turn.
At the end of the day is not a significant difference so longer duration does not really increase the speed.

OC gain is not a problem when you're facing 10 monsters, but in the early rounds not having haste makes a lot of difference.

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post Dec 19 2015, 05:30
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 18 2015, 22:55) *

at PF difficulty? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


yes of course ^^ and im still lacking " good " gear but I guess its really mostly about the ping.. but mine is only 3,3 t/s also.. and I have a ms of 31 mostly
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post Dec 19 2015, 05:33
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 18 2015, 19:10) *

You have a good point. Past a certain point, damage taken doesn't matter at all for 1h, and if your other buffs are on IA, the only significant downside to not using Haste is having to cast Regen and Heartseeker more often. So if a player is tanky enough and is facing mostly harmless schoolgirls, perhaps avoiding Haste and gaining more OC is the way to go.

Uh huh, so haste is what was messing me up? I think 80% of my time wasted was due to my OC constantly running out.

Gads, man, if I hadn't had Flower Vases and Bubble-Gum... on the bright side I only used about 20 of each during the whole run. Astoundingly one hit of FV and BG lasted through three of the latter rounds that had 3 SGs. They boosted me that much.

I'm going to set aside a budget for FVs and BGs. HV is extremely tedious and even a FV is an explosive increase in clear speed. The two combined is better than Quad Damage. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

By the way, guys, FRD doesn't stun everyone like the wiki says... hmmm.
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