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post Dec 18 2015, 13:18
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Dec 18 2015, 07:56) *

I didn't play back then, how much was binding of destruction previously?
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 18 2015, 07:57) *

55k+ is cheap? Didn't it used to be 40k or so a year ago (when I started)? Or was it a lot more expensive before that?

a couple of years ago, when i started iirc bindings of slaughter and bindings of destruction were both worth 220~250k. phazons were still roughly 100~130k or so
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post Dec 18 2015, 13:23
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Dec 18 2015, 11:39) *

Think i'm gonna stop playing melee entirely, due to my low t/s, and start playing mage on lower difficulties for now.

Whats a good stat distribution for mage?
My current stat distribution is: STR=DEX=VIT=WIS>AGI=LEVEL>INT (Since i was full melee)
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And if i play on Hell difficulty, there's no loot drop penalty right?
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Atm I have 380 End, Int, Wis, 350 Agi, 300 Str, Dex. It feels good for me.
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post Dec 18 2015, 13:33
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QUOTE(cichy133 @ Dec 18 2015, 19:23) *

Atm I have 380 End, Int, Wis, 350 Agi, 300 Str, Dex. It feels good for me.

ic, some other stat distribution of others, that i dug out.

QUOTE(tetron @ Dec 6 2015, 01:23) *

I prefer this: END > AGI > WIS > INT > DEX > STR

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Think maybe i'l try INT=END=WIS=AGI>DEX>STR
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post Dec 18 2015, 16:30
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question about getting an average good mage set ( holy likely ) is it a lot faster than playing 1H ? like.. I need 13-14mins for The Trio and the Tree and Arenas below that usually 7-10mins .. would i need a much lesser time when taking an +5 forged Holy set into account? or will the result be equal?
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post Dec 18 2015, 16:54
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Dec 18 2015, 14:30) *
question about getting an average good mage set ( holy likely ) is it a lot faster than playing 1H ? like.. I need 13-14mins for The Trio and the Tree and Arenas below that usually 7-10mins .. would i need a much lesser time when taking an +5 forged Holy set into account? or will the result be equal?
Yes, with a bit of forging it'll be a whole lot faster. Even with mage's significantly lower t/s, it still takes me less than half the time to finish arenas. Around 13:30 with 1h on PF T&T, compared to around 7:00 with elem mage.

But if you have to stop attacking and Imperiling to Cure a whole lot, which is likely for PF at your level, your clear speed will probably be significantly worse. Elemental might be better for you for a while.
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post Dec 18 2015, 16:57
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 18 2015, 17:54) *

Yes, with a bit of forging it'll be a whole lot faster. Even with mage's significantly lower t/s, it still takes me less than half the time to finish arenas. Around 13:30 with 1h on PF T&T, compared to around 7:00 with elem mage.

But if you have to stop attacking and Imperiling to Cure a whole lot, which is likely for PF at your level, your clear speed will probably be significantly worse. Elemental might be better for you for a while.



what would be the costs approximately for a elemental set ( which one prefered? ) and then + the costs of forging? is that even worth the time/money until i reach a reasonable level to play " safely " on Grindfest etc
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post Dec 18 2015, 16:59
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Well, i cant compare because my melee set is quite old and cheap and my mage is already a bit expensive. But i think on high diff mage at least 1,5x faster. Im not sure about something like x2, because expensive melee is also not very slow, but maybe even this possibly.
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post Dec 18 2015, 18:02
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When i think that it takes me 30 min to clear T&T...
Probably time for me to swap to mage as well (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Dec 18 2015, 18:12
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QUOTE(Epion @ Dec 18 2015, 19:02) *

When i think that it takes me 30 min to clear T&T...
Probably time for me to swap to mage as well (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


lol no.. you should learn how to play (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) or you are using Superior plate armour (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
no seriously.. even with simple Leg power of something and a fine Rapier you need rougly 16mins with mousemeele, where are your problems exactly to make it so long ?
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post Dec 18 2015, 18:21
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Plus it's quite a few days now that the game's replies are very slow, despite the fact that everything else moves fine (if i open league of sh*t it pings 70. dunno how to get ping for verse, but if it's connection based it should be around there, no?).
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post Dec 18 2015, 18:25
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QUOTE(Epion @ Dec 18 2015, 16:21) *
Plus it's quite a few days now that the game's replies are very slow, despite the fact that everything else moves fine (if i open league of sh*t it pings 70. dunno how to get ping for verse, but if it's connection based it should be around there, no?).
Well, those stats are better than mine were at that level. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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Look at "time" stat. Hopefully it's under 200. If it's over 400, melee will not be worth playing. If there's a significant variance, that indicates there's a problem with the connection somewhere (eg. something else eating up all the bandwidth, or bad hardware).

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post Dec 18 2015, 18:27
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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Dec 19 2015, 00:12) *

lol no.. you should learn how to play (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) or you are using Superior plate armour (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
no seriously.. even with simple Leg power of something and a fine Rapier you need rougly 16mins with mousemeele, where are your problems exactly to make it so long ?

I also take around 30min for T&T, well i have 250-300 ping, below 1.5 t/s.

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I use the mousemelee from the HV reloader script, barely have to cure, i even tried using maxed imperil, but no matter what, i can't finish T&T under 30mins.

Can u teach me how to do T&T below 30min?

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post Dec 18 2015, 18:28
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Probably slow t/s.
Good thing about mage it allows to clear fast in t/round way. Sometimes i have high ping and maybe its not so good, because it looks like just long time before page reloads. But still it should be better than for melee, because it gives more time to check some stuff. I mean mage isnt so simple as hover. Imperil can be resisted, target can suddenly die or conversely, or maybe cure needed. Ive tried many times and its rly hard to get more than something like 2,2-2,5 t/s even in perfect conditions. And it can be easy even 1,5 with good concentration. So this side stuff is rly big part and with low t/s should be better to play mage.
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post Dec 18 2015, 18:30
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post Dec 18 2015, 18:30
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Dec 18 2015, 16:27) *
I also take around 30min for T&T, well i have 250-300 ping, below 1.5 t/s.

I barely even have to cure, i even tried using maxed imperil, but no matter what, i can't finish T&T under 30mins.
Can u teach me how to do T&T below 30min?
Ping is the only issue. Stats look fine.
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post Dec 18 2015, 18:34
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 19 2015, 00:30) *

Ping is the only issue. Stats look fine.

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That's why this statement totally pissed me off, even though it wasn't for me.
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lol no.. you should learn how to play (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) or you are using Superior plate armour (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
no seriously.. even with simple Leg power of something and a fine Rapier you need rougly 16mins with mousemeele, where are your problems exactly to make it so long ?

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post Dec 18 2015, 18:36
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Dunno... i can get 1 attack per sec. Sometimes 1 attack every 2 sec... That's not what this ping should do...
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post Dec 18 2015, 18:38
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QUOTE(Epion @ Dec 18 2015, 16:36) *
Dunno... i can get 1 attack per sec. Sometimes 1 attack every 2 sec... That's not what this ping should do...
Then the issue is your computer being slow. Decent melee should be able to get 3 t/s at least by holding down numpad key, but if your browser can't render the relatively simple HV page quickly, you'll have big problems. You can try different browsers and see if t/s improves, but the underlying problem is likely insufficient hardware (or something else on your system that's eating resources).
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post Dec 18 2015, 18:46
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Well, yeah. My laptop IS half broken...
But it's funny how i can open to play league of legend(ary s**t) that is supposedly a more complex game without trouble...
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Oh well, peace. Can't do much about it.
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post Dec 18 2015, 18:46
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Not always. In old versions of opera i had 1,5-2t/s and in any other browser like firefox easy 4t/s with pressed down key.
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