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post Dec 18 2015, 02:51
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 17 2015, 03:41) *

Well, high-grade metal means you're only losing ~1k worth of credits by shrining instead of 3k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Except the shop is willing to pay 2276 for it. A sapling goes for 1000 so I more than doubled its value. I don't know how much either are worth to sell directly to another player.
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post Dec 18 2015, 02:52
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QUOTE(jasonp20 @ Dec 18 2015, 00:51) *
I don't know how much either are worth to sell directly to another player.
This is the only value that matters. Never sell anything to the item shop unless no players are willing to buy at any price.
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post Dec 18 2015, 05:25
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Using chrome + tampermonkey, I got the reloader script and the 'HV Random Encounter Notification' but I don't think the latter is working, whereabouts is the notification supposed to be? What other scripts should I use?


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post Dec 18 2015, 08:25
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QUOTE(jasonp20 @ Dec 18 2015, 08:51) *

Except the shop is willing to pay 2276 for it. A sapling goes for 1000 so I more than doubled its value. I don't know how much either are worth to sell directly to another player.

Nope.
QUOTE(K.A. @ Nov 4 2015, 21:24) *
WTB
Sapling 3400c

QUOTE(Amiya @ Jul 18 2014, 03:26) *
Sapling @ 3,400c

QUOTE(wannaf @ Jan 9 2013, 09:31) *
wtb list:
Sapling 3400c

QUOTE(youshi @ Dec 3 2014, 00:52) *
Sapling @ 3,200c


QUOTE(Slazenger77 @ Dec 17 2015, 18:29) *
Using chrome + tampermonkey, I got the reloader script and the 'HV Random Encounter Notification' but I don't think the latter is working, whereabouts is the notification supposed to be?

Are u talking about the script's notification or the random encounter notification? (i don't use the 'HV Random Encounter Notification')

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What other scripts should I use?

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Last update.
Attached File  HVEquipComparison_0.6.4.3_for_ELP.user.zip ( 23.46k ) Number of downloads: 1401

Don't need any more bug reports.
I never touch this cord.
Waste of time.
Not bug.
T and R key works only popup has 'Upgrades and Enchantments' pages.

This one allows u to compare stats on equipment, helps u make better decision if its good or not, whether to buy the item or not.

QUOTE(Dan31 @ Nov 24 2015, 02:41) *

For Epion, and whoever else who needs it, here is a script adding a confirmation popup upon consumming an energy drink. Might be useful for those who don't want to gulp down 65k credits accidentally.

Attached File  HV_Confirm_Use_of_ED.user.js.txt ( 508bytes ) Number of downloads: 190


If u are a Klutz like me and Epion, this script prevents us from accidentally consuming Energy Drink (Valued more than 68k in WTB)
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post Dec 18 2015, 08:41
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I haven't played since the coin hunt last year and the first thing I notice in the WTB section is that Binding of Destruction is now dirt cheap.

Did mages get nerfed? I don't see anything mage-related in the changelog.
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post Dec 18 2015, 08:56
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QUOTE(Nerzzzzz @ Dec 18 2015, 14:41) *

I haven't played since the coin hunt last year and the first thing I notice in the WTB section is that Binding of Destruction is now dirt cheap.

Did mages get nerfed? I don't see anything mage-related in the changelog.

I didn't play back then, how much was binding of destruction previously?
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post Dec 18 2015, 08:57
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QUOTE(Nerzzzzz @ Dec 18 2015, 06:41) *
I haven't played since the coin hunt last year and the first thing I notice in the WTB section is that Binding of Destruction is now dirt cheap.

Did mages get nerfed? I don't see anything mage-related in the changelog.
55k+ is cheap? Didn't it used to be 40k or so a year ago (when I started)? Or was it a lot more expensive before that?

Material prices are probably mostly the result of time. Years ago, there were probably few materials to go around, and the low quantities that monsters delivered were highly desirable by all. After some years and 0.81, most high-level players have had the time to forge as much as they want, so more materials weren't that desirable. Then came 0.82 with increased equipment ranges, so everyone had to switch their sets again, so more materials were needed to replace those lost in salvaging, so perhaps that's why some prices went up a bit.

That's my wild guess.
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I found a chaos token early on and brought a monster so if you could send some crystals my way I'd appreciate it

Using chrome + tampermonkey, I got the reloader script and the 'HV Random Encounter Notification' but I don't think the latter is working, whereabouts is the notification supposed to be? What other scripts should I use?
Random Encounter Notification is at the top right of the main HV pane, to the right of the "Wiki" link.

Don't ask for crystal donations, all you need is PL 25 after all, which you can get the crystals for in no time at all.

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post Dec 18 2015, 09:24
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Dec 18 2015, 03:25) *

Nope.
Are u talking about the script's notification or the random encounter notification? (i don't use the 'HV Random Encounter Notification')
This one allows u to compare stats on equipment, helps u make better decision if its good or not, whether to buy the item or not.
If u are a Klutz like me and Epion, this script prevents us from accidentally consuming Energy Drink (Valued more than 68k in WTB)


is there a hotkey for the HVEQUIP compare script?
I see no dif with or without it on the latest FF

What monster type would be good for my starting monster?

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post Dec 18 2015, 09:28
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QUOTE(Darknessy @ Dec 18 2015, 15:24) *

is there a hotkey for the HVEQUIP compare script?
I see no dif with or without it on the latest FF

'T' will show unforged base stats.
'W' will show all the values with S/E/M/L/P max +- ratings
'P' Opens up the wiki equipment range in a new tab

i only use these 3 hotkeys though.
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post Dec 18 2015, 09:31
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Dec 18 2015, 04:28) *

'T' will show unforged base stats.
'W' will show all the values with S/E/M/L/P max +- ratings
'P' Opens up the wiki equipment range in a new tab

i only use these 3 hotkeys though.



Nope
Not working on the latest FF

All i get are red loading words at the bottom which doesnt load
Are you using GM 3.6 and the latest FF 43?
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post Dec 18 2015, 09:35
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 18 2015, 15:57) *

55k+ is cheap? Didn't it used to be 40k or so a year ago (when I started)? Or was it a lot more expensive before that?

Now that I check, mage equipments are still expensive as hell. So I guess mages are still good.

I remember Destruction being 130k-ish while Slaughter was shooting for 200k-ish back when I was playing. It feels like bindings in general are now cheaper. Thank god.
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post Dec 18 2015, 09:41
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QUOTE(Darknessy @ Dec 18 2015, 15:31) *

Nope
Not working on the latest FF

All i get are red loading words at the bottom which doesnt load
Are you using GM 3.6 and the latest FF 43?

Oh haha, change ur font (custom font) in the HV settings.
i remember that one
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post Dec 18 2015, 09:45
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Oh haha, change ur font (custom font) in the HV settings.
i remember that one
Maybe we should suggest that 10b disable the shitty HV font by default since it breaks nearly everything, in addition to increasing server load and page rendering time.
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post Dec 18 2015, 09:54
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Depr prof in willow staff is much better. For average mage its always around 1:1 ratio between imperil and attacks. So to get 20-25% imperil counter resist is better. But willow also have native counter-resist, so in reality thats very preferably for elec/wind mages. Thats why good willow staff always sells for 10m+.
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post Dec 18 2015, 10:09
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 18 2015, 08:57) *

Random Encounter Notification is at the top right of the main HV pane, to the right of the "Wiki" link.

Don't ask for crystal donations, all you need is PL 25 after all, which you can get the crystals for in no time at all.

Oh, it said it needed a power level of 100 to be activated but after naming my monster there's no longer a message telling me that.

Didn't see the timer notification so I reinstalled that script and got it working now.


QUOTE(izpekopon @ Dec 18 2015, 09:41) *

Oh haha, change ur font (custom font) in the HV settings.
i remember that one
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I had the same problem as the other guy but this fixed it, thanks.
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post Dec 18 2015, 10:21
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QUOTE(Nerzzzzz @ Dec 18 2015, 13:41) *

I haven't played since the coin hunt last year and the first thing I notice in the WTB section is that Binding of Destruction is now dirt cheap.

Did mages get nerfed? I don't see anything mage-related in the changelog.

radiant & charged phase + destruction staff still expensive , but yeah material price is alot cheaper now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

only CP & binding of slaughter that still expensive that surpass 100k but cheaper compare to 2013 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Dec 18 2015, 10:47
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Back when potions cost only a couple credits, it'd be right that full plate would be best, but now that mana potions cost 90c and draughts restore little per turn, you can't afford to spend mana potions regularly just for the sake of proficiency unless you have lots and lots of credits to throw away. That's if you want to stay in battle the whole time, which requires less concentration than fleeing - Recover Magic - repeat.

If you do use the Flee strategy, then sure, get as much interference as possible, if you don't mind lots and lots of clicking. But if you're willing to do that sort of thing, you might as well play normally (on low difficulty) and get income as well. (If you can't GF profitably or IW something you need for yourself, then that's not an option) I'd prefer to either play with concentration while getting income, or pay next to no attention and let spellspam and draughts do all the work.

For either case, try playing with Haste off. That way, draughts will restore more mana per turn, on average.

IWBTH IW is preferable because monsters have high HP but low damage, but if you Flee you might not be doing enough damage to even come close to killing them, so you might be fine going down to Nintendo or Hell or something, if damage taken is even a remote issue.


QUOTE(nec1986 @ Dec 18 2015, 04:20) *

You can also just use 5 phase set. I always prefer ways like this, because it gives profit. I did staff farm with full power of slaughter set in sg and ethereal staff with high melee damage. It wasnt so fast as 1h, but it was fairly similar. Same way just replace cotton, because prof equip is useless without prof. Take full advantage of phase in 5 slots and play this mage style until prof is ~capped.

I also mean fast clear like 8-10 t/round on pf against 8+ monsters is step by step. It wont be incredibly faster after you get cap prof. It ll be only small step. So why not to play in ordinary way (maybe arenas or something daily). It ll be a bit slower in improvement way, but it also wont be useless farm without much profit.


personally, grinding pre 250 is pretty fast now, 80-100 round of low normal grindfest using lvl 77 staff net ~15-20 proficiencies, and spellspam do all the work, two artifact drops cover all the draught spent.
post 250 where the bonus proficiency growth are gone, it should be safe to play normally and let the elemental proficiency flow naturally until reaching max - longer rants later..

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post Dec 18 2015, 10:55
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personally, grinding pre 250 is pretty fast now, 80-100 round of low normal grindfest using lvl 77 staff net ~15-20 proficiencies, and spellspam do all the work, two artifact drops cover all the draught spent.
post 250 where the bonus proficiency growth are gone, it should be safe to play normally and let the elemental proficiency flow naturally until reaching max - longer rants later..
Yeah, spell proficiency is easy since it rises naturally. It's only staff prof that's tough. (just took me around 2 hours to raise prof from 447 to 453)
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post Dec 18 2015, 12:34
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I didn't play back then, how much was binding of destruction previously?
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 18 2015, 12:27) *
55k+ is cheap? Didn't it used to be 40k or so a year ago (when I started)? Or was it a lot more expensive before that?
It was nearly 3x times costlier back then. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

When the price came down to 90k, there was a rush, because people thought that the price wasn't gonna drop anymore. So the 90k price stayed for a while. But after some weeks, the price began to fall again, and has become what it is today.

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Maybe we should suggest that 10b disable the shitty HV font by default since it breaks nearly everything, in addition to increasing server load and page rendering time.
Plenty of people already did, and Tenb gave a "Gintoki Expression"! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Dec 18 2015, 12:39
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 18 2015, 04:54) *

If you do use the Flee strategy, then sure, get as much interference as possible, if you don't mind lots and lots of clicking. But if you're willing to do that sort of thing, you might as well play normally (on low difficulty) and get income as well. (If you can't GF profitably or IW something you need for yourself, then that's not an option) I'd prefer to either play with concentration while getting income, or pay next to no attention and let spellspam and draughts do all the work.

QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Dec 18 2015, 16:47) *

personally, grinding pre 250 is pretty fast now, 80-100 round of low normal grindfest using lvl 77 staff net ~15-20 proficiencies, and spellspam do all the work, two artifact drops cover all the draught spent.
post 250 where the bonus proficiency growth are gone, it should be safe to play normally and let the elemental proficiency flow naturally until reaching max - longer rants later..

Think i'm gonna stop playing melee entirely, due to my low t/s, and start playing mage on lower difficulties for now.

Whats a good stat distribution for mage?
My current stat distribution is: STR=DEX=VIT=WIS>AGI=LEVEL>INT (Since i was full melee)
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And if i play on Hell difficulty, there's no loot drop penalty right?
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Loot_Drop_Rolls#Limits

QUOTE(tetron @ Dec 18 2015, 18:34) *

Plenty of people already did, and Tenb gave a "Gintoki Expression"! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

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