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post Dec 13 2015, 21:44
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Guys,what about dark/holy imperil and 1h(phis damage)?

still no info?should we report to 10b?
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post Dec 13 2015, 22:36
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Just saw this in my inventory - Legendary Hallowed Axe of Slaughter

Don't even know when I got it, but is it worth anything?

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post Dec 13 2015, 22:43
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QUOTE(Shisatsu @ Dec 14 2015, 03:36) *

Just saw this in my inventory - Legendary Hallowed Axe of Slaughter

Don't even know when I got it, but is it worth anything?


tatarime-san buy it here.
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post Dec 14 2015, 01:10
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Does Better Blind ability affect Blind proc caused by DW Iris Strike skill?
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post Dec 14 2015, 01:13
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Does Better Blind ability affect Blind proc caused by DW Iris Strike skill?

yes. i know for sure it doubles its duration, and it probably raises its effectiveness as well
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post Dec 14 2015, 01:25
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 14 2015, 01:13) *

yes. i know for sure it doubles its duration, and it probably raises its effectiveness as well

That's good to know, though now I have to train some Ability Boost (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
So far my DW experiment is going ok, after a careful start I went with IWBTH for Arenas and PFUDOR for REs. Started grinding proficiency today, now at ~88, hopefully I can go full PFUDOR when it catches up. Got no additional Overpower for my Wakizashi, which is not ideal, but I'll have to deal with it for now. The parries are poison for Overcharge, I can imagine it becoming a nuisance with the 10% monster parry bonus on PFUDOR. If only DW (and 2H) had an additional Overcharge bonus like 1H has from Counter-Attacks...
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post Dec 14 2015, 01:35
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One question about Monster Lab. Is there a point where Chaos Upgrades Defense (and Warding) become more cost effective than Fortitude for tankiness/survivability? In other words: should you fully upgrade Fortitude before investing any Chaos Tokens in Defense and Warding?

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post Dec 14 2015, 03:48
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Does it make a difference whether im shrining trophies now or at a higher level?
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post Dec 14 2015, 06:17
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Does it make a difference whether im shrining trophies now or at a higher level?

No difference.
The main reason why those high level people are buying trophies and shrine them, should be because they bought the Follower of Snowflake(FoS) hath perk.
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post Dec 14 2015, 09:38
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Newbie here, im planning to go Niten-style. Currently using Axe+Shield + Heavy Armor. Need advicesAttached Image

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post Dec 14 2015, 09:51
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QUOTE(Logii @ Dec 14 2015, 02:35) *

One question about Monster Lab. Is there a point where Chaos Upgrades Defense (and Warding) become more cost effective than Fortitude for tankiness/survivability? In other words: should you fully upgrade Fortitude before investing any Chaos Tokens in Defense and Warding?


Its quite useless. First thing you should get is 100 (or 200 with goldstar) monsters and scavenging for em. Only after that all others.
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post Dec 14 2015, 11:22
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Dec 14 2015, 09:51) *

Its quite useless. First thing you should get is 100 (or 200 with goldstar) monsters and scavenging for em. Only after that all others.

I know that is the way to manage Monster Lab these days, but I was asking more from theoretical point. It would make sense that Defense gets you better tankiness/token cost ratio when the next level of Fortitude costs significantly more tokens. But what point would be the right time to spend some tokens on Defense/Warding instead of Fortitude is what I'm curious about.
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post Dec 14 2015, 12:11
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Dec 13 2015, 20:17) *

No difference.
The main reason why those high level people are buying trophies and shrine them, should be because they bought the Follower of Snowflake(FoS) hath perk.

What benefit does that perk offer anyway?
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post Dec 14 2015, 12:15
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What benefit does that perk offer anyway?
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Hath_Perks

Trophies -> Peerless
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post Dec 14 2015, 12:17
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QUOTE(Logii @ Dec 14 2015, 17:22) *

I know that is the way to manage Monster Lab these days, but I was asking more from theoretical point. It would make sense that Defense gets you better tankiness/token cost ratio when the next level of Fortitude costs significantly more tokens. But what point would be the right time to spend some tokens on Defense/Warding instead of Fortitude is what I'm curious about.

I just add them evenly because its cheaper, and dmg, speed and Fortitude are a bit higher.
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post Dec 14 2015, 12:18
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Dec 14 2015, 12:11) *

What benefit does that perk offer anyway?

QUOTE(Tenboro @ Sep 27 2014, 15:03) *

- Follower of Snowflake will now, in addition to displaying your unyielding devotion to Snowflake, give a "free" bound Peerless equipment for every 10 million credits in buy value worth of trophies handed in at the shrine. The specific type and tier of Peerless is determined by the trophy and selection that takes you over the edge. Trophies you hand in prior to getting FoS will also be counted.
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post Dec 14 2015, 12:18
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In this case its quite easy, because we can say monster has some tankiness and count it as health/(1-defense). I mean if monster has 100k hp and 50% protection then its something like 200k base damage value for killing.

After that we just count it for different styles.
Zero reduction (almost no one use it).
100% hp - 100% increase
60,7% defense at 350 to 68,6% - 25% increase
69% at 500 lvl to 75,2% - same 25%

50% reduction from imperil mage:
Defense gives 6%

75% reduction from rapier:
15,2% -- > 17,1% which is 2,4%

So you can see defense increase is quite useless atm, because even in best cases its only 25% for all 20 while hp gives double amount.
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post Dec 14 2015, 12:19
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Dec 14 2015, 18:11) *

What benefit does that perk offer anyway?

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- Follower of Snowflake will now, in addition to displaying your unyielding devotion to Snowflake, give a "free" bound Peerless equipment for every 10 million credits in buy value worth of trophies handed in at the shrine. The specific type and tier of Peerless is determined by the trophy and selection that takes you over the edge. Trophies you hand in prior to getting FoS will also be counted.
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post Dec 14 2015, 14:42
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I want to change my set to something better, but I don't know if I should go for 4 surtrs + 1 elementalist or 3 surtrs + 2 elementalist? I'm using fiery redwood staff of destruction.
Atm I have 149% fire dmg boost and 556 effective elemental prof. I have robe and pants of elementalist. Robe gives me only 71 prof, cuz it's a crappy pre patch legendary. So will it be better to lose this 71 prof for ~40 fire dmg bonus with some magnificent robe of surtr?
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post Dec 14 2015, 14:49
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QUOTE(cichy133 @ Dec 14 2015, 12:42) *
I want to change my set to something better, but I don't know if I should go for 4 surtrs + 1 elementalist or 3 surtrs + 2 elementalist? I'm using fiery redwood staff of destruction.
Atm I have 149% fire dmg boost and 556 effective elemental prof. I have robe and pants of elementalist. Robe gives me only 71 prof, cuz it's a crappy pre patch legendary. So will it be better to lose this 71 prof for ~40 fire dmg bonus with some magnificent robe of surtr?
As long as you don't get past 1.7 proficiency, which is quite hard without good base stats, a decent amount of forging, and the prof perk, it's probably not bad to do either, though 150% EDB sounds quite low.

I think if I were you, I'd use either 4 + 1 or 3 + 2, with the deciding factor being budget and equipment level (fragments), rather than trying to optimize the balance between prof and EDB. Balance is important at high levels and when a player is going to forge, but for lower level mage, budget and equipment level are probably more relevant factors.
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