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post Dec 8 2015, 18:22
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Guys,now question about pricing,i know about shield and meele weapons,Heave armor,but i don't really know where i need to look to determine price of:
Staffs
Light Armor
Cloth Armor

Can you help me with it?)
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post Dec 8 2015, 18:27
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QUOTE(doom9ra @ Dec 8 2015, 17:22) *

Guys,now question about pricing,i know about shield and meele weapons,Heave armor,but i don't really know where i need to look to determine price of:
Staffs
Light Armor
Cloth Armor

Can you help me with it?)

Look at past auctions.
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post Dec 8 2015, 18:31
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Dec 8 2015, 20:27) *

Look at past auctions.

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post Dec 8 2015, 18:44
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https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=187293

i have any chances to sell my items at least for 50k each?
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post Dec 8 2015, 18:47
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QUOTE(doom9ra @ Dec 8 2015, 23:44) *

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=187293

i have any chances to sell my items at least for 50k each?


if somebody willing to buy, yes.
If you send the item to the action, they will determine your item value first whether it would reach at least 50k or not, if not they'll just send it back to you.
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post Dec 8 2015, 18:52
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QUOTE(doom9ra @ Dec 8 2015, 17:44) *

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=187293

i have any chances to sell my items at least for 50k each?

judging by my past experience, a single one of your drops is better than what i could ever think to drop myself (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Dec 8 2015, 18:57
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post Dec 8 2015, 19:11
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QUOTE(doom9ra @ Dec 8 2015, 12:22) *

Guys,now question about pricing,i know about shield and meele weapons,Heave armor,but i don't really know where i need to look to determine price of:
Staffs
Light Armor
Cloth Armor

Can you help me with it?)


If it's about item's price, problem with determining item's worth based on past auction is that it's not reliable Q xQ
You only know that weapon/armor worths a certain amount, but it might be because of the peerless bases, prefixes, or some other factors which aren't explained, and if there was bid war then the price would get inflated >"< Not to mention the difference in our wealth, some might go to the extreme for some pieces of equipments.
To my experience it's best to determine it depending on your income and future plan O xO If you think you will be using it long enough to at least make up the investment and gain some extra credit then go for it O 3O
Also, if you're looking for specific requirements that is hard to come by (like magnificent charged elec clothes like me Q AQ), it's better to buy it at higher market price than miss it and delay your plan for another few weeks Q xQ

If you're trying to setup a shop in WTS then it's another story O xO I don't have and don't plan to have one so I don't know much about it, but they all look much more expensive than the one in auction (not counting inflated price by bid war), maybe because the owners aren't in a hurry to sell them O 3O You can also list them with open offer O 3O

You already got your answers Q AQ I feel like a snail now Q xQ

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post Dec 8 2015, 19:15
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QUOTE(Nekokon @ Dec 8 2015, 21:11) *

If it's about item's price, problem with determining item's worth based on past auction is that it's not reliable Q xQ
You only know that weapon/armor worths a certain amount, but it might be because of the peerless bases, prefixes, or some other factors which aren't explained, and if there was bid war then the price would get inflated >"< Not to mention the difference in our wealth, some might go to the extreme for some pieces of equipments.
To my experience it's best to determine it depending on your income and future plan O xO If you think you will be using it long enough to at least make up the investment and gain some extra credit then go for it O 3O
Also, if you're looking for specific requirements that is hard to come by (like magnificent charged elec clothes like me Q AQ), it's better to buy it at higher market price than miss it and delay your plan for another few weeks Q xQ

If you're trying to setup a shop in WTS then it's another story O xO I don't have and don't plan to have one so I don't know much about it, but they all look much more expensive than the one in auction (not counting inflated price by bid war), maybe because the owners aren't in a hurry to sell them O 3O

You already got your answers Q AQ I feel like a snail now Q xQ


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post Dec 8 2015, 19:27
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Is anyone else getting all of the sudden a very slow reply from the game or is it just me?
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post Dec 8 2015, 19:28
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Is anyone else getting all of the sudden a very slow reply from the game or is it just me?

seems fine for me.
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post Dec 8 2015, 19:49
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Dont understand the table. So I assume katalox of destruction full forge will be better than oak? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


That was for one staff to show how important to get closer to Pmax stats. Because even slightly lower stats lose solid magic score and in extreme situation difference between 45mdb/15edb and 50mdb/20edb was almost same as 10% damage perk.

About katalox vs oak i think its very close. It more depends what you can get with good rolls. If oak is very good, then it should be better. I mean this staff (50,5/20) with max forge gives something like 18021 magic score
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4f97e13e87
and this one without crit difference
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=bef597cdae
17709, but wiki has higher max ranges for oak.

Step by step.
Oak. 13% native counter should give ~4% clearspeed (with same imperil turns because katalox gives depr prof with similar effect).
Oak. Sup prof should reduce a bit rebuffs/cures. But i think not so much, because many use full-cure strategy.
Katalox. 2% crit difference with 300+ magic score difference should give ~2% clearspeed.
So in 3+2 full forge seems katalox isnt so good.
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post Dec 8 2015, 19:50
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QUOTE(Epion @ Dec 9 2015, 00:27) *

Is anyone else getting all of the sudden a very slow reply from the game or is it just me?

yes , I got spike alot in my ping today ~ reach 3000ms (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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post Dec 8 2015, 19:59
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Sometimes i feel like Tenbo is right behind the corner watching me.
I complain about the slow game's reaction that i have the entire day and right after it's fixed!
I complain on how i haven't found a single precursor artifact for days after training archaeologist and i find 7 one after an other.
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Mmm... Should i complain about how i have never won the lottery while there will be a ethereal reaper of slaughter for prize? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Dec 8 2015, 20:16
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Evaluation.
The only monsters that deal electric damage are Skuld (TT&T) and eventually elemental monsters (I think... right?).

I have seen a couple of monsters with names making it look as if they are thunder element but they are not...
If i keep my elemental resistance to 0... it should not be a problem, right?
But is it right? o_O
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QUOTE(Epion @ Dec 9 2015, 01:16) *

Evaluation.
The only monsters that deal electric damage are Skuld (TT&T) and eventually elemental monsters (I think... right?).

I have seen a couple of monsters with names making it look as if they are thunder element but they are not...
If i keep my elemental resistance to 0... it should not be a problem, right?
But is it right? o_O


eh...
you could keep all of your elemental resistance 0, as long as your block or parry and evade is decent, coupled with spirit shield and spark, I don't think there would be any problem at all...
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QUOTE(Epion @ Dec 8 2015, 18:59) *

Sometimes i feel like Tenbo is right behind the corner watching me.
I complain about the slow game's reaction that i have the entire day and right after it's fixed!
I complain on how i haven't found a single precursor artifact for days after training archaeologist and i find 7 one after an other.
...
Mmm... Should i complain about how i have never won the lottery while there will be a ethereal reaper of slaughter for prize? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

complain about how Scremaz never won Chaos Tokens (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

QUOTE(Epion @ Dec 8 2015, 19:16) *

Evaluation.
The only monsters that deal electric damage are Skuld (TT&T) and eventually elemental monsters (I think... right?).

I have seen a couple of monsters with names making it look as if they are thunder element but they are not...
If i keep my elemental resistance to 0... it should not be a problem, right?
But is it right? o_O

i think it's not so wrong. i mean, the biggest quota of your mitigations is given by PMI and MMI, so as long as they are high enough you should be quite fine. should you eventually choose about elemental mitigations, pick Holy, Dark and Fire as much as possible
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Got it. Thanks
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Dec 9 2015, 01:49) *

That was for one staff to show how important to get closer to Pmax stats. Because even slightly lower stats lose solid magic score and in extreme situation difference between 45mdb/15edb and 50mdb/20edb was almost same as 10% damage perk.

About katalox vs oak i think its very close. It more depends what you can get with good rolls. If oak is very good, then it should be better. I mean this staff (50,5/20) with max forge gives something like 18021 magic score
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4f97e13e87
and this one without crit difference
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=bef597cdae
17709, but wiki has higher max ranges for oak.

Step by step.
Oak. 13% native counter should give ~4% clearspeed (with same imperil turns because katalox gives depr prof with similar effect).
Oak. Sup prof should reduce a bit rebuffs/cures. But i think not so much, because many use full-cure strategy.
Katalox. 2% crit difference with 300+ magic score difference should give ~2% clearspeed.
So in 3+2 full forge seems katalox isnt so good.


Oh I mean Katalox staff of heaven-sent (the prof one). It's been proven that hallowed katalox of destruction is better iirc.

The two I'm comparing is
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=fca06cedb6
and
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=bef597cdae

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post Dec 8 2015, 20:53
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Dec 9 2015, 01:49) *

That was for one staff to show how important to get closer to Pmax stats. Because even slightly lower stats lose solid magic score and in extreme situation difference between 45mdb/15edb and 50mdb/20edb was almost same as 10% damage perk.

About katalox vs oak i think its very close. It more depends what you can get with good rolls. If oak is very good, then it should be better. I mean this staff (50,5/20) with max forge gives something like 18021 magic score
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4f97e13e87
and this one without crit difference
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=bef597cdae
17709, but wiki has higher max ranges for oak.

Step by step.
Oak. 13% native counter should give ~4% clearspeed (with same imperil turns because katalox gives depr prof with similar effect).
Oak. Sup prof should reduce a bit rebuffs/cures. But i think not so much, because many use full-cure strategy.
Katalox. 2% crit difference with 300+ magic score difference should give ~2% clearspeed.
So in 3+2 full forge seems katalox isnt so good.

Hmm very close huh? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
And you forgot to mention katalox also has high holy prof to balance out the counter resist


QUOTE(Epion @ Dec 9 2015, 02:16) *

Evaluation.
The only monsters that deal electric damage are Skuld (TT&T) and eventually elemental monsters (I think... right?).

I have seen a couple of monsters with names making it look as if they are thunder element but they are not...
If i keep my elemental resistance to 0... it should not be a problem, right?
But is it right? o_O

Just install battle stat ex and you will see how low a single ele damage can be.

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