Loading. Please Wait... 
 |
 |
 |
Asked the Experts, For archive purposes only. Please use Ask the Expert! for questions |
|
Dec 5 2015, 05:46
|
izpekopon
Group: Members
Posts: 1,498
Joined: 27-August 15

|
QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 5 2015, 11:23)  I would switch to any of those as soon as I had a number of soul fragments I was free to spend (so probably the lowest level one, 409). It wouldn't be a huge upgrade, but by the time you have the fragments, you'll probably consider defense almost completely irrelevant, so the loss of End and a bit of mitigation wouldn't be a problem.
Since the improvement wouldn't be that great and you still have to worry about defense some, I wouldn't worry about it for now, check to see what you can do with other slots first.
[attachembed=75415] I'm trying to see how i could claw my way to 7k ADB >w< Speaking of forging5, i calculated that i probably won't get much from forging5 my current leggings(18.58), boots(16.20). Estimated ADB gain would be 22.99, 20.52 respectively (Not counting PABs upgrades). While forging5 the ADB on my helm(22.6) and armor(26.02) estimate ADB gain of 51.07 and 59. So higher base ADB contributes significantly to how the equipment would turn out after forging. So i'm now contemplating whether to forge my gauntlets, leggings and boots. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Dec 5 2015, 05:52
|
Superlatanium
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 7,637
Joined: 27-November 13

|
QUOTE(izpekopon @ Dec 5 2015, 03:46)  Speaking of forging5, i calculated that i probably won't get much from forging5 my current leggings(18.58), boots(16.20). Estimated ADB gain would be 22.99, 20.52 respectively (Not counting PABs upgrades). While forging5 the ADB on my helm(22.6) and armor(26.02) estimate ADB gain of 51.07 and 59. So higher base ADB contributes significantly to how the equipment would turn out after forging. So i'm now contemplating whether to forge my gauntlets, leggings and boots. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) If anything's soulbound, definitely forge to 5 if you have extra credits and aren't going to throw it away soon, since you'll get back most of it when you salvage and upgrade. If it's not soulbound and you think it's good enough to sell for a price you'd be willing to wait for, then probably don't forge if you see yourself upgrading within the next ~40 levels (sunk investment that will definitely be a significant loss, since the price will be much lower than the cost of equip + forging).
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Dec 5 2015, 05:59
|
izpekopon
Group: Members
Posts: 1,498
Joined: 27-August 15

|
QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 5 2015, 11:52)  If anything's soulbound, definitely forge to 5 if you have extra credits and aren't going to throw it away soon, since you'll get back most of it when you salvage and upgrade. If it's not soulbound and you think it's good enough to sell for a price you'd be willing to wait for, then probably don't forge if you see yourself upgrading within the next ~40 levels (sunk investment that will definitely be a significant loss, since the price will be much lower than the cost of equip + forging).
Then i'l probably skip forging my boots(base ADB 16.20, 2 PABs). Maybe i'l consider forging the power warding legging, soul-bounded gauntlet as it seems viable enough. Thanks for ur inputs. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This post has been edited by izpekopon: Dec 5 2015, 06:00
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Dec 5 2015, 07:00
|
nobody_xxx
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 13,753
Joined: 7-December 10

|
QUOTE(izpekopon @ Dec 5 2015, 10:46)  [attachembed=75415] I'm trying to see how i could claw my way to 7k ADB >w< Speaking of forging5, i calculated that i probably won't get much from forging5 my current leggings(18.58), boots(16.20). Estimated ADB gain would be 22.99, 20.52 respectively (Not counting PABs upgrades). While forging5 the ADB on my helm(22.6) and armor(26.02) estimate ADB gain of 51.07 and 59. So higher base ADB contributes significantly to how the equipment would turn out after forging. So i'm now contemplating whether to forge my gauntlets, leggings and boots. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) quick way to reach 7k ~ forge your rapier to lvl 50 ADB (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) well , you can always forge +5 to all of your gears even though it's exq grade since it's already been soulbound (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Dec 5 2015, 07:01
|
|
|
|
 |
|
|
 |
|
|
 |
|
Dec 5 2015, 07:17
|
izpekopon
Group: Members
Posts: 1,498
Joined: 27-August 15

|
QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Dec 5 2015, 13:11)  QUOTE(izpekopon @ Dec 5 2015, 13:05)  How about u sponsor those 45 BoS nomoney_xxx senpai, those things don't grow on trees u know! LOL (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) okay , just send me 7,5M credits first (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) well , you can always forging your rapier slowly ~ maybe to lvl 10 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) it's leg grade rapier of slaughter with nice WD too (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) good investment plus I don't think you will replace it soon / I think you will use it for a long time (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Jokes aside, i think maybe forging my rapier's ADB might actually yield better returns than forging my other equipment to 5. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Even then, if i had that amount of credits to buy that amount of BoS, i'l would rather use the funds to convert into a low budget mage (cos my t/s and ping is horrendous (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) ) This post has been edited by izpekopon: Dec 5 2015, 07:53
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Dec 5 2015, 07:18
|
Void Domain
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 2,131
Joined: 30-May 10

|
QUOTE(Epion @ Dec 5 2015, 01:50)  Keep in mind that it's mostly a joke i made based on a theory i have. So don't expect anything (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) The only exploit I remember was the iw one, you enchant all elemental resist and it will always give jug/cap (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
|
|
|
Dec 5 2015, 08:23
|
Void Domain
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 2,131
Joined: 30-May 10

|
QUOTE(izpekopon @ Dec 5 2015, 14:20)  Does that exploit still work? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) No it was like 2 years ago.
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Dec 5 2015, 09:10
|
Fudo Masamune
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,636
Joined: 2-February 10

|
QUOTE(Dead-ed @ Dec 5 2015, 02:54)  By "decent" means ultra safe yet ultra slow. He can't give details because he sensed the one who made that report.
QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 5 2015, 10:06)  stun. damage bonus from FRD is almost negligible. however if i remember correctly, with a high enough attack speed you could FRD all enemies to go for Stun effect, then Skyward Sword-ing them for PA to stack and finally slashing them. this way you should be quite safe. or maybe Imperiling them may be viable as well, don't know. food for your thoughts though (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) then I think that would be more useful for niten-heavy with it's negligible evade, since my current niten-light have enough safety from equipment itself. I think it's better to stick with only Skyward Sword and spent the other 100 OC for normal attack. Also, just tested the FRD, the damage is just around skyward sword... well.. back to godslayer then...
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Dec 5 2015, 09:29
|
nobody_xxx
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 13,753
Joined: 7-December 10

|
QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Dec 5 2015, 14:10)  then I think that would be more useful for niten-heavy with it's negligible evade, since my current niten-light have enough safety from equipment itself. I think it's better to stick with only Skyward Sword and spent the other 100 OC for normal attack.
Also, just tested the FRD, the damage is just around skyward sword... well.. back to godslayer then...
FRD tuh gunanya buat stun enemy , bukan damage fud (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) that why less than 1% lvl 300+ players using dohvakin title (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Dec 5 2015, 09:29
|
|
|
Dec 5 2015, 10:46
|
izpekopon
Group: Members
Posts: 1,498
Joined: 27-August 15

|
|
|
|
Dec 5 2015, 11:26
|
doom9ra
Group: Members
Posts: 789
Joined: 11-December 10

|
Del,im idiot
This post has been edited by doom9ra: Dec 5 2015, 11:27
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Dec 5 2015, 13:58
|
Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 24,317
Joined: 18-January 07

|
QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Dec 5 2015, 08:10)  then I think that would be more useful for niten-heavy with it's negligible evade, since my current niten-light have enough safety from equipment itself. I think it's better to stick with only Skyward Sword and spent the other 100 OC for normal attack.
no, iirc. remember that attack speed prolongs the time of all procs, so with high stats + haste + FRD spam you may reach a stat of almost perma-stunning mobs. but as i already said, i may be wrong. you may be a good test subject though (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Dec 5 2015, 08:10)  Also, just tested the FRD, the damage is just around skyward sword...
so high? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) QUOTE(izpekopon @ Dec 5 2015, 09:54)  What's LiteCoin? I found them on the bazaar not too long back. Are they of any use? Collectibles?
yup. obsolete artifact for Easter 2014. not that big of value since quite recent & widely diffused. see it as a cheap artifact with higher chance to give you a PAB. or simply keep it to try and go for the full set. it will surely have higher value than the single parts (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Dec 5 2015, 14:44
|
Dead-ed
Group: Members
Posts: 3,577
Joined: 4-March 14

|
QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Dec 5 2015, 00:10)  then I think that would be more useful for niten-heavy with it's negligible evade, since my current niten-light have enough safety from equipment itself. I think it's better to stick with only Skyward Sword and spent the other 100 OC for normal attack.
Also, just tested the FRD, the damage is just around skyward sword... well.. back to godslayer then...
You might want to try to stop using haste, the bleed will tick more often but of course also the attack from monsters & you need to focus on spreading proc. It's better than using any skill if your defense is good as you said. Btw, if you want to try perma stun, prepare speed bonus over 35 but bleed will tick in every 2-3 turns. Bleed damage is big, you might want to find out by yourself. This post has been edited by Dead-ed: Dec 5 2015, 14:48
|
|
|
|
 |
|
Dec 5 2015, 14:45
|
izpekopon
Group: Members
Posts: 1,498
Joined: 27-August 15

|
QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Dec 5 2015, 17:01)  that from easter event 2014 if I'm not wrong (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) QUOTE(Scremaz @ Dec 5 2015, 19:58)  yup. obsolete artifact for Easter 2014. not that big of value since quite recent & widely diffused. see it as a cheap artifact with higher chance to give you a PAB. or simply keep it to try and go for the full set. it will surely have higher value than the single parts (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) oic. [side rant] 300+ ping, damned it man, i kinda wish i was a mage. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
|
|
|
5 User(s) are reading this topic (5 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:
|
 |
 |
 |
|
|
|