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That...was not obvious to me. Thanks for saving me some chaos tokens.

By "build" I was assuming you were referring to crystals, because there's a very limited number of upgrades before PL gets much past 25, so you have to decide carefully. For chaos tokens, of course you can upgrade whatever you want if you have spares (the only completely worthless chaos upgrade is likely Dissipation / resist+)

Question: Ether tap, or don't ether tap?

Adding on to this, I did some more math. Draining the Schoolgirls is an easy way to get free MP, regardless of the player's element.

Best case: Schoolgirls have more than ~35% MP, so Ether Theft drains the maximum per turn. Over its full duration, it restores 33% of your base MP = 44% of a mana potion = 39.6 credits.

Cost: ~3% of base mana to cast Drain, and if you're not Holy, also ~7% of base mana to cast Paradise Lost, plus the concentration required to manually Paradise/Drain instead of just continuing Spellspam.

After accounting for time lost via manual casting, it probably comes out to the equivalent of ~30 credits for Holy, and ~20 credits for non-Holy after factoring in greater mana costs and the chances of proccing Burning Soul in the first place. And if the schoolgirl uses an MP attack right after you Drain, profit probably goes down to <10 credits, regardless of element.

For decently equipped mage, 25-30 c/turn is the same or lower than what you'd make in Arenas and Grindfest. Since it's only barely break-even, even for Holy, if even that: it's not worth the required key presses, so:
never Drain for Ether Theft.

But, this is different for melee, since their credits per turn is a lot lower; Drain's opportunity cost is much less, so maybe it can be profitable, especially with lower-quality equipment, though whether it's worth the tedium is another question you'd have to answer for yourself. Of course, that's only valid for those who always have a net loss in mana over time, and can't rely on draughts. (But if you're playing the SG arenas on high difficulty, you should have IA 1 and 2 at least, right? Potions shouldn't be needed)

This post has been edited by Superlatanium: Dec 1 2015, 04:12

I think it's all right. Due to EDB, evade, and slot, it's not something a perfect level 500 player would want to use forever, but it's the next best thing, with the most popular element, so it should still be worth quite a lot.

I don't think slot is much of an issue unless the piece in question is something that will indeed be used forever, or nearly forever - catalysts and HGC are so expensive that forging past ~30 on anything that won't be used nearly forever likely won't be worth it. Without that, anyone using the equip won't be getting to the point of "too much proficiency => slightly wasted slot", so it's not something they should be concerned about. Probably.Heartseeker will always increase CC by 10%, will always increase overall physical damage by 25%, and will also increase CD by 0% to 15%, depending on your AP level.

ohh Ic. thanks. so the ability page only show the changed ability value by ap level

Can't be bothered to mage if I'm able to achieve that t/s.

Can't be bothered to mage if I'm able to achieve that t/s.

Depends, are you able to use Frenzied Blows every turn? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Can't be bothered to mage if I'm able to achieve that t/s.

Go play some melee, you know you want to (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

huh. my very best drop until this moment is 'worth a bit'. hooray! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I meant its probably not 1-2m one, but might be still around 500k, because its holy with good prefix.

In the Bazaar: level 126 Magnificent Agile Leather Gauntlets of Protection buyprice 9434c
Stats looks decent for low levels.

This post has been edited by izpekopon: Dec 1 2015, 11:11

on bazaar right now:

mag phase gloves of niflehim
exq power armor of slaughter
mag shielding whatever

I'd been wanting to figure this out for a while, but I think I finally got it.

Question: Ether tap, or don't ether tap?

Answer: Most likely, never, not even if the monster is at <1000 HP, if you're a decently leveled, decently equipped mage. Best case, two stacks restore 20% of base mana over Tap's full duration.

Yeah, I agree. I've figured out why Full Cure doesn't work for me, and it's because I've been tapping away.

The problem is, I still gotta tap now and then to keep staff proficiency high.

I still gotta tap now and then to keep staff proficiency high.

Why you need it?
If wiki is correct then 10 staff points gives:
1 mdb
0,25 cast speed
0,25 crit
0,5 acc
I mean 1 mdb and acc is useless and 1% crit with 1% cast speed for 40 staff points is quite low amount. Its also should be much easier to use low iw in background for spam. Even solid amount of taps (like 50-60/hour) is only 15s in melee mod.

now, a Legendary worth its name: Legendary Charged Cotton Pants of the Heaven-sent

old Scre is happy! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i want to sell it, so may i have a price check?

Congo. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I'll say something around ~500k.

now, that's the way! a bit of hoptimism every now and then! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

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Why you need it?
If wiki is correct then 10 staff points gives:
1 mdb
0,25 cast speed
0,25 crit
0,5 acc
I mean 1 mdb and acc is useless and 1% crit with 1% cast speed for 40 staff points is quite low amount. Its also should be much easier to use low iw in background for spam. Even solid amount of taps (like 50-60/hour) is only 15s in melee mod.

It's 0.5 MDB per prof. 10 prof = 5 MDB. But yeah, that's very little, and I agree, it's much easier to train staff in IW every 10 or 20 levels than to manually Tap every so often.

Oh, sorry, i used cloth prof.

This post has been edited by nec1986: Dec 1 2015, 14:48

Congo. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I'll say something around ~500k.

3 people out of 3 say around 500k, so i guess that may be true. oh well, nice incoming from a RE, i'd say (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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You added an 'h' in front of 'optimism'. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Hoptimism sounds like hope and we all hope for good loot (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Right, it's 1 MDB per 2 staff proficiency. Which means that staff proficiency accounts for slightly more than 5% of my damage.

Training staff proficiency every few levels should work, but I sorta preferred to do so during normal play and get a bit of side benefits as the same time. Well, I do agree that's less efficient.

You added an 'h' in front of 'optimism'. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

you grammar nazi! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

Hoptimism sounds like hope and we all hope for good loot (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

there's a way of saying here where i live about hope (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

we all hope for good loot (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I don't. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

you grammar nazi! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

Har, Har!