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and - just wondering - do you plan to use that shortsword with it or only leveling it as spare time?

i'm using it, at least it lets me play iwbth for now
Leg level above weap i owned is only this and this lol

Err...Shortsword is NOT good for 1H. Even a Mag rapier will give you a huge boost in power over that Peerless Shortsword!
For DW, however, that Shortsword in Offhand position is quite good.

i'll keep that in mind (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I see you talking about 1h. Why is rapier almost exclusively used in this style? Why no shortsword or axe for example?

Because proc. Its pa which gives 2x+ damage increase with 3 stacks.

I see you talking about 1h. Why is rapier almost exclusively used in this style? Why no shortsword or axe for example?

because nowadays monsters are heavily chaosed ( = quite tanky and resilient). among the various procs - which are Stun, Penetrated Armor and Bleeding Wound - you may say that Stun is useful since it allows you to deal with a lesser number of mobs at every turn, PA is very useful since dramatically lowers mobs' resistances (thus, helping you to keep the number of rounds at a decent amount) and BW is interesting only as a passive proc that finishes an already-in-the-grave monster, so not big room for that.
counter-stuns already deal Stun effect, so almost mandatory choice is PA (which means rapier)

moreover, Axes don't have Parry stat, which is a big disadvantage, so nowadays are close to not worth being considered. shortsword have parry, but no PA effect. you may use them (shortsword) when starting to move your first steps on 1H, but nowadays light weapons which still have market are basically rapiers, wakis of nimble and clubs.

i'm using it, at least it lets me play iwbth for now
Leg level above weap i owned is only this and this lol
i'll keep that in mind (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

IMO even exq ethereal/IW10 rapier of slaughter should be better than that for dw. what you're looking for is the penetrate armor proc.

this is only a dirty blackmail that i won't consider even in the farest corner of my mind! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

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(how much do you want, btw?)

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how about enough for being a super saiya niten who can clear dwd in 2 minutes?

drama aside, continuing my 2h proficiency grinding a few pages back, even without changing equip or using featherweigh, I actually able to finish pf arena using 2H with low budget equipment. The "trick" is keeping mana reserve high by gulping mana potion whenever reaching <50% mana and not on cooldown.
- at least up to T&T arena - don't really willing to test on SG arenas since I know it will take ages to finish.
- by low budget is any equipment I got from bazaar which is never cost more than 15k or monster drops from playing 1h until lvl 375.

While it's possible to do PF arena contrary to what I said before, it still needs more investing to mana potion unlike 1h/dw, so yeah 2h still shit. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

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on to other matter.

thinking about using the last few runs of 2h proficiencies grinding for IW-ing staff and cloth armor for trying mage later, and here is any equipment that I have in my inventory right now (I choose anything that I think good/decent) :

Exquisite Hallowed Katalox Staff of Destruction
Magnificent Demonic Katalox Staff of Focus
Magnificent Redwood Staff of Destruction
the rest are things like exq tempestous redwood freyr, leg tempestous katalox heaven-sent, etc etc.

and my cloth armor wardrobe is something like this :

The only notable equip for head is a mag phase of fenrir.
and I know it's not impressive since I only hoard anything that I think looks fancy.

It's only meant for building proficiencies while learning how to maging, so any ideas on which element I should go first with that kind of equip available? which equipment I should IW for? which equipment I should use as a start?
and what potency should I go? economizer/penetrator economizer/archmage archmage/penetrator?
also the focus staff is better for grinding proficiency, right? since It cut mana cost.

This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Nov 29 2015, 16:54

It's only meant for building proficiencies while learning how to maging, so any ideas on which element I should go first with that kind of equip available? which equipment I should IW for? which equipment I should use as a start?
and what potency should I go? economizer/penetrator economizer/archmage archmage/penetrator?
also the focus staff is better for grinding proficiency, right? since It cut mana cost.

Wind is best, elec second (willow staff) and then ice and fire (redwood staff). Holy is good for no imp style thats about it I think.

IMO even exq ethereal/IW10 rapier of slaughter should be better than that for dw. what you're looking for is the penetrate armor proc.

i kinda get what you're saying, but the level requirement for equipment(s) in WTS is killing me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) i'll have to at least grind to 300 first lol (except if there's level unassigned ethereal rapier in wts subforum)

i kinda get what you're saying, but the level requirement for equipment(s) in WTS is killing me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) i'll have to at least grind to 300 first lol (except if there's level unassigned ethereal rapier in wts subforum)

train your AL , that will help you gain lvl quicker (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

also playing in higher difficulty will speed up your lvl into 300 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)




ane ada rapier yg ngak dipake tapi terhadang sama lvl (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

biasanya aditz atau dipsi yg masih ada unassigned equipment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Nov 29 2015, 17:23

train your AL , that will help you gain lvl quicker (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

also playing in higher difficulty will speed up your lvl into 300 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
ane ada rapier yg ngak dipake tapi terhadang sama lvl (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

biasanya aditz atau dipsi yg masih ada unassigned equipment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

yeah i'm currently training my AL now. maybe it takes a week to go 200/300 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
also i'm collecting hath(s) by doing bounty right now for Mentats - Learning Chip - Cybernetic Implants
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speaking of Hath Perks, at what level did you guys reccomend getting Dæmon Duality ~ Æsahættr?

yeah i'm currently training my AL now. maybe it takes a week to go 200/300 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
also i'm collecting hath(s) by doing bounty right now for Mentats - Learning Chip - Cybernetic Implants
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speaking of Hath Perks, at what level did you guys reccomend getting Dæmon Duality ~ Æsahættr?

anytime if you have fund (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

if (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)


unless you are hath baron , you need 30k hath to unlock that 30% damage perk ~ nearly 200M credits ~ ( that aloooooooooooot you know ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

well , you still can get it without become hath baron but you need to grinding ALOT daily like cat lover (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Nov 29 2015, 17:36

If anyone has the necessary equip to try this and tell me..

What is the best attack speed that you can reach with a katana and waki on light armor (or cloth... what can be fastest).

Do you consider that a niten build can keep Dovahkiin 24/24 available same as a full speed dw could?

I see you talking about 1h. Why is rapier almost exclusively used in this style? Why no shortsword or axe for example?

Axe, particullarly Axe of Slaughter, works for 1H till Hell difficulty.
From that point on, if you want to play in higher difficulty, you will need the weapon Proc, "Penetrated Armor", which is only available on Rapier. (For 2H, we have Estoc)
Why is it necessary? The answer is this: Penetrated Armor is broken! It increases your damage by a huuuuuuge amount, which is not possible with other weapon Procs like "Stun" or "Bleeding Wound".
Shortsword for 1h just doesn't work well. 1st reason of all is the lack of Penetrated Armor. 2nd reason is it having not so much ADB.

on to other matter.

thinking about using the last few runs of 2h proficiencies grinding for IW-ing staff and cloth armor for trying mage later, and here is any equipment that I have in my inventory right now (I choose anything that I think good/decent) :

Exquisite Hallowed Katalox Staff of Destruction
Magnificent Demonic Katalox Staff of Focus
Magnificent Redwood Staff of Destruction
the rest are things like exq tempestous redwood freyr, leg tempestous katalox heaven-sent, etc etc.

and my cloth armor wardrobe is something like this :

The only notable equip for head is a mag phase of fenrir.
and I know it's not impressive since I only hoard anything that I think looks fancy.

It's only meant for building proficiencies while learning how to maging, so any ideas on which element I should go first with that kind of equip available? which equipment I should IW for? which equipment I should use as a start?
and what potency should I go? economizer/penetrator economizer/archmage archmage/penetrator?
also the focus staff is better for grinding proficiency, right? since It cut mana cost.

My first advise would be to not try Holy/Dark as the starting element. They are not starter mage friendly.
Choose any of the Elec/Wind/Cold/Fire.
Best potency for starter would be Eco lv.5 + Pen Lv.4. (Archmage is very good on Destruction Staff if you can forge it's MDB)
When you have significantly forged you Staff/Armors, Eco lv.3 becomes sufficient for MP usage. (For Holy/Dark, Eco Lv.5 is a must all time)

Wind is best, elec second

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If anyone has the necessary equip to try this and tell me..

What is the best attack speed that you can reach with a katana and waki on light armor (or cloth... what can be fastest).

Do you consider that a niten build can keep Dovahkiin 24/24 available same as a full speed dw could?

Waki's Max attack speed is ~28 (with SS5).
Katana's Max attack speed is ~9 (with SS5).
Full Agile Light Armor Gives you ~17 attack speed.
Now you calculate. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

This post has been edited by tetron: Nov 29 2015, 18:07

Waki's Max attack speed is ~28 (with SS5).
Katana's Max attack speed is ~9 (with SS5).
Full Agile Light Armor Gives you ~17 attack speed.
Now you calculate. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Perfect. Thanks.

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Edit: It works in theory and can get 24/24 stun plus aoe autoattacks, but never mind trying. Just an other overestimated idea... unless if slashing changes a bit, it won't work well (still takes too long to clear)...

This post has been edited by Epion: Nov 29 2015, 19:28

Someone is buying Featherweight Shards for 450c? Where? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Thanks for the update, will try it some time later.

Why not post it in the script thread too?

That's why you should input your own prices via HV Item Manager (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) A few of mine are likely never used or out of date.

My first advise would be to not try Holy/Dark as the starting element. They are not starter mage friendly.
Choose any of the Elec/Wind/Cold/Fire.
Best potency for starter would be Eco lv.5 + Pen Lv.4. (Archmage is very good on Destruction Staff if you can forge it's MDB)
When you have significantly forged you Staff/Armors, Eco lv.3 becomes sufficient for MP usage. (For Holy/Dark, Eco Lv.5 is a must all time)

so... how about this set for a start
Magnificent Redwood Staff of Destruction
Magnificent Ruby Phase Cap of Fenrir
Magnificent Charged Phase Robe of Mjolnir
Legendary Ruby Cotton Gloves of the Elementalist
Magnificent Frugal Phase Pants of Heimdall
Magnificent Radiant Phase Shoes of Surtr

and between IW-ing the staff, I'll look for some of elementalist or any wind/elec magic damage bonus on bazaar to replace the head and pants..

-- which one is better?
Magnificent Redwood Staff of Destruction or Exquisite Tempestuous Redwood Staff of Freyr

This post has been edited by Fudo Masamune: Nov 29 2015, 18:32

so... how about this set for a start
Magnificent Redwood Staff of Destruction
Magnificent Ruby Phase Cap of Fenrir
Magnificent Charged Phase Robe of Mjolnir
Legendary Ruby Cotton Gloves of the Elementalist
Magnificent Frugal Phase Pants of Heimdall
Magnificent Radiant Phase Shoes of Surtr

and between IW-ing the staff, I'll look for some of elementalist or any wind/elec magic damage bonus on bazaar to replace the head and pants..

Use only one element, not 4 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) Otherwise it's not even worth trying

This post has been edited by Superlatanium: Nov 29 2015, 18:31

Yes, decide which element you want to use exclusively. I learned it hard way (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Use only one element, not 4 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) Otherwise it's not even worth trying

I know, It's just a starting equip based on what I have at the momment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Actually you can try 1h+phase. It should be good for prof farm. For that style you need any weapon with specific element. Shield with not very high interference (or enchant). And because you dont have prof, then also 5 phases with same element as weapon. It should be more or less fine. Here is example of such build for fire with random mag surtr from my invertory.

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And damage examples:
Flames of Loki blasts I Fear Axe for 34247 fire damage
Flames of Loki hits Big Mac for 28338 fire damage
Flames of Loki hits Big Mac for 20314 fire damage

Inferno blasts Big Mac for 38238 fire damage
Inferno hits I Fear Axe for 20420 fire damage

Fiery Blast blasts Big Mac for 24132 fire damage
Fiery Blast blasts I Fear Axe for 22477 fire damage
Fiery Blast hits I Fear Axe for 12669 fire damage
So you can see even the weakest spell is something like 20k on up to 5 targets. And best is ~30-35k on all 9 targets. It also has very good defense, so its very good combo for early mage without very high lvl and forge.

This post has been edited by nec1986: Nov 29 2015, 19:02

Magnificent Power Boots of Protection
level 356 in the bazaar