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post Nov 28 2015, 12:58
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Nov 28 2015, 11:55) *

In what part ethereal is better than non-ethereal except in no burden/interference and possibility of darkness/holy strike?
or am I underestimate the difference that come from 9 more burd....

check your stats prior and after featherweighting your weapon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post Nov 28 2015, 13:02
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 28 2015, 17:58) *

check your stats prior and after featherweighting your weapon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)


yeah I just remember that 1 burden isn't just a few .x% but 1.33% evade, hence not continuing the sentence :/

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It seems I already bazaar my mag ethereal estoc (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

this is with featherweigh :
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3% evade increase... I don't know if it will help, going to try it on pf arena now..

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nope. It helps but not substantial, I'm still curing like hell against 7+ monsters.
on the other note, using mana potion earlier help prolong my life in the arena, was stopped in around 48-50th round by using the mana potion only when reaching less than 25% mana yesterday, now could finish it by spamming the mana potion after 50%.

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[Damage] Average: 1624 / Crushing: 42% / Piercing: 36% / Slashing: 10% / Dark: 3% / Holy: 2% / Fire: 2% / Void: 1% / Cold: 0% / Wind: 0% / Elec: 0%
[Used Item] Mana Draught: 13 / Mana Potion: 12 / Spirit Draught: 10 / Health Gem: 1 / Mana Gem: 1
[Skill & Spell] Cure: 137 / Imperil: 30 / Full-Cure: 11 / Absorb: 9 / Regen: 7 / Spirit Shield: 6 / Shadow Veil: 4 / Smite: 4 / Heartseeker: 2


that's longest journey.

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[Damage] Average: 1616 / Piercing: 46% / Crushing: 34% / Slashing: 9% / Fire: 3% / Wind: 1% / Void: 1% / Holy: 1% / Cold: 0% / Elec: 0% / Dark: 0%
[Used Item] Mana Potion: 14 / Mana Draught: 13 / Spirit Draught: 13 / Health Gem: 2 / Mana Gem: 2 / Mystic Gem: 2 / Health Potion: 1 / Spirit Potion: 1 / Health Draught: 1
[Skill & Spell] Cure: 172 / Imperil: 28 / Absorb: 14 / Shadow Veil: 11 / Full-Cure: 11 / Spirit Shield: 8 / Regen: 7 / Heartseeker: 4


andthat's dreamfall.

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post Nov 28 2015, 14:23
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That wont work. You have mage`s defense, but melee speed/damage. 2h can work on low diff for high lvl, but with good power forged set. In that case defense becomes better (like 80%+ pmi) and high adb kills fast enough. Its quite specific style, but if 1h has good set and wanna faster clear then its quite cheap to get high adb 2h weapon.
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post Nov 28 2015, 14:36
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 28 2015, 19:23) *

That wont work. You have mage`s defense, but melee speed/damage. 2h can work on low diff for high lvl, but with good power forged set. In that case defense becomes better (like 80%+ pmi) and high adb kills fast enough. Its quite specific style, but if 1h has good set and wanna faster clear then its quite cheap to get high adb 2h weapon.


should I try wearing my 1h-heavy power armor set?

I remember trying it once, 2h-heavy, and it's worse than the current style... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) but I don't know about now.


nevermind, I'll try it anyway after this arena.

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post Nov 28 2015, 14:39
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I mean that ll work on low diff, because income damage isnt very big. It gives good clearspeed. But on high diff like pf you need or much better defense (and 1h have in 10 times better defense) or much better speed/damage (in other words mage).
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post Nov 28 2015, 14:46
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@fudo

elu kalo mau pakai 2H light , musti upgrade EVA , PMI + ADB estoc juga jgn lupa (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)



err , before xtech gone retired he still can clear PFU DwD using 2H heavy ( mid 2014 ) , but he have one of the best legendary eth estoc at that moment ( fully forged ) + full set slaughter that get forged too ( 10,4k ADB total + damage perk ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


so , without alot of forging it's hard to use 2H at PFUDOR (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Nov 28 2015, 14:49
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 28 2015, 19:39) *

I mean that ll work on low diff, because income damage isnt very big. It gives good clearspeed. But on high diff like pf you need or much better defense (and 1h have in 10 times better defense) or much better speed/damage (in other words mage).


yeah, that just like what I describe at the first time, it works nice on iwbth, but need much more investment to be as playable as 1h on pf, and if it's going to cost more, then maybe (because I haven't try mage so only maybe for now) it's better switching to mage.
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post Nov 28 2015, 15:15
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post Nov 28 2015, 15:17
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arch is good choice (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Nov 28 2015, 15:21
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QUOTE(Epion @ Nov 28 2015, 20:15) *

Suggest?


Adept Learner or anything between Scavanger/LotD/Quartermaster/Archeologist that you think is cheap (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Nov 28 2015, 15:22
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After arch training i dont get arti at all (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
All arenas for 1 drop.
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post Nov 28 2015, 15:23
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QUOTE(Epion @ Nov 28 2015, 14:15) *

Suggest?

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post Nov 28 2015, 15:27
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 28 2015, 20:22) *

After arch training i dont get arti at all (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
All arenas for 1 drop.

counter effect after training ( you will get bad/worst luck first before get good/great drop ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Nov 28 2015, 15:35
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 28 2015, 13:22) *

After arch training i dont get arti at all (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
All arenas for 1 drop.


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post Nov 28 2015, 15:39
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Probably.
Its a bit expensive. I mean something like 4,7-8m for only 1 level, but on the other hand if i get 5arti/hour without training then full training means additional 5*15k=75k/hour. Its very solid. The earlier start it the bigger advantage it gives later. So even 8m at some stage gonna pay back.
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post Nov 28 2015, 15:43
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 28 2015, 21:39) *

Probably.
Its a bit expensive. I mean something like 4,7-8m for only 1 level, but on the other hand if i get 5arti/hour without training then full training means additional 5*15k=75k/hour. Its very solid. The earlier start it the bigger advantage it gives later. So even 8m at some stage gonna pay back.

I train it so I dont have to buy ed anymore, at least when I am not bad luck.
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post Nov 28 2015, 15:56
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Yea, with arch its rly easy.
But im not sure about something like scavenging. Last level cost 2m and difference in loot something like 25,15-->25,2. It means i need 900m value drop for payback. Its just... impossibly. And same with last levels of quarter.
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 28 2015, 21:56) *

Yea, with arch its rly easy.
But im not sure about something like scavenging. Last level cost 2m and difference in loot something like 25,15-->25,2. It means i need 900m value drop for payback. Its just... impossibly. And same with last levels of quarter.

900m (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Didn't really do the math, I think the other 3 drop training are all for gambling. I mean you can get all back with 1 good drop sell for 50m.
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post Nov 28 2015, 16:03
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i'd need a favor. could someone please loan me a rapier of nimble for a few minutes?

only requirements are Parry >= 25, nice DEX roll (>= 6?) and bounded in between the 350-368 lv range. i only have to check Parry boost, so i don't mind anything else. should it be a Leg Ethereal i may want to buy it though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Nov 28 2015, 16:08
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scav , LoTD , arch and quart last lvl is alot more expensive in the past before tenb cut it price (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

LoTD lvl 25 is 9,9M before ~ now only 6M (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

that why hito is asking for refund in the past (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

still expensive but quicker to return for our investment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


agree with void , you just need 1 super lucky drop (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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