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Nov 27 2015, 08:32
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nobody_xxx
Group: Gold Star Club
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just rename it , it should be active despite what HV said in the page that need lvl 100 to active it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Nov 27 2015, 08:42
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DekomoriDesu
Group: Gold Star Club
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I tried it, I don't let me to rename /0\''' the name is still unnamed zombie, you mean this still works ?
This post has been edited by DekomoriDesu: Nov 27 2015, 08:43
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Nov 27 2015, 09:07
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(DekomoriDesu @ Nov 27 2015, 07:42)  I tried it, I don't let me to rename /0\''' the name is still unnamed zombie, you mean this still works ?
renaming past a certain threshold costs a certain amount of Chaos Tokens. just tried with a PL 325 one and it says 10 tokens are required. i guess you simply waited too much (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) quite strange though. it's a new feature since last patch, but Tenboro should've thought about people who didn't rename their mob yet - even if it may seem a bit schizophrenic. feel free to report it in the patch thread
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Nov 27 2015, 09:46
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nec1986
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Nov 27 2015, 06:19)  Just curious, how do u guys calculate the magic score?
Its not so hard. I always do it manually, because it works better. All stats there are in character tab. Mdb is just value. For me its ~3200. Edb is easy to transform and in my case its 360. Just divide by 100 and add 1. Like 360 --> 3,6 --> 4,6. And final part is crit and because crit damage is 50%, then we should multiply by 1,(half of crit). In my case as i remember its ~44%. So result is 3200*4,6*1,22=17958. Its just look at 3 numbers and multiply in calc.
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Nov 27 2015, 10:05
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izpekopon
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 27 2015, 15:46)  Its not so hard. I always do it manually, because it works better. All stats there are in character tab. Mdb is just value. For me its ~3200. Edb is easy to transform and in my case its 360. Just divide by 100 and add 1. Like 360 --> 3,6 --> 4,6. And final part is crit and because crit damage is 50%, then we should multiply by 1,(half of crit). In my case as i remember its ~44%. So result is 3200*4,6*1,22=17958. Its just look at 3 numbers and multiply in calc.
Sorry i didn't understand the crit calculation portion.
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Nov 27 2015, 10:22
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Nov 27 2015, 09:05)  Sorry i didn't understand the crit calculation portion.
yup. shouldn't it be something like crit_chance * ( 1 + crit_damage_modifier ) like for melee? [edit]: or maybe your crit chance is exactly 50%? This post has been edited by Scremaz: Nov 27 2015, 10:22
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Nov 27 2015, 10:33
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nec1986
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I just squeezed that part. Full is (1 + crit/200), so if we have 44% chance then 1+44/200=1,22. But much easier to count it directly. Simple take half of 44 which is 22 and write it after 1. Its short way to get same 1,22 result.
But if we have different from 50% crit damage (annihilator in staff) then its better to use 1+critdamage/100*critchance/100. For example, same situation d be 1+50/100*44/100 (1+0,5*0,44) which is mostly same. Its half of 44. With 60% crit damage that d be 0,6 of our crit chance. Im always doing it manually, because seems script has some problems with soulfuse/lvl of gear. In my case it doesnt count staff at all and shows wrong numbers.
This post has been edited by nec1986: Nov 27 2015, 10:38
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Nov 27 2015, 10:44
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izpekopon
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 27 2015, 16:33)  I just squeezed that part. Full is (1 + crit/200), so if we have 44% chance then 1+44/200=1,22. But much easier to count it directly. Simple take half of 44 which is 22 and write it after 1. Its short way to get same 1,22 result.
But if we have different from 50% crit damage (annihilator in staff) then its better to use 1+critdamage/100*critchance/100. For example, same situation d be 1+50/100*44/100 (1+0,5*0,44) which is mostly same. Its half of 44. With 60% crit damage that d be 0,6 of our crit chance. Im always doing it manually, because seems script has some problems with soulfuse/lvl of gear. In my case it doesnt count staff at all and shows wrong numbers.
ic thanks for the explaination. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Nov 27 2015, 11:34
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Vinnems
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My weakest point for my character right now is gear. I've been stock piling trophies because I only get junk at the shrines. I have quite a few of each up to Saplings, which I just reached the level to fight the tree. Is it worth it to keep hoping I get something good in the shrine, or is that just a waste? I could always use credits and I see they fetch a decent price for bulk in the WTB section.
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Nov 27 2015, 11:50
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Dan31
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QUOTE(Vinnems @ Nov 27 2015, 10:34)  My weakest point for my character right now is gear. I've been stock piling trophies because I only get junk at the shrines. I have quite a few of each up to Saplings, which I just reached the level to fight the tree. Is it worth it to keep hoping I get something good in the shrine, or is that just a waste? I could always use credits and I see they fetch a decent price for bulk in the WTB section.
Just sell them in WTB.
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Nov 27 2015, 11:53
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Dammon
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QUOTE(Vinnems @ Nov 27 2015, 01:34)  My weakest point for my character right now is gear. I've been stock piling trophies because I only get junk at the shrines. I have quite a few of each up to Saplings, which I just reached the level to fight the tree. Is it worth it to keep hoping I get something good in the shrine, or is that just a waste? I could always use credits and I see they fetch a decent price for bulk in the WTB section.
You probably won't get anything good from them even if you shrine thousands. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Nov 27 2015, 13:31
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nec1986
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Buy fos, buy throphies, profit. Actually last time im rly thinking about fos. Its quite expensive, but not something what cant be reached.
This post has been edited by nec1986: Nov 27 2015, 13:32
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Nov 27 2015, 13:52
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Void Domain
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 27 2015, 19:31)  Buy fos, buy throphies, profit. Actually last time im rly thinking about fos. Its quite expensive, but not something what cant be reached.
But you cant trade the fos item, if there is any profit its quite low (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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Nov 27 2015, 14:08
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mozilla browser
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Nov 27 2015, 11:19)  Just curious, how do u guys calculate the magic score? I saw somewhere that the formula was [ MDB * (1+EDB/100) * (1+prof/200) * (1 + crit/200) ]
The magic score script uses this formula: magic_score = mdb * (1 + edb/100) * (1 + crit_chance * crit_dmg) Eg, if the stats in your character screen are mdb=4000, edb=350, crit_chance=44%, crit_damage=53% then magic_score = 4000 * (1 + 3.5) * (1 + 0.44 * 0.53) = 22197 Calculating the magic score from your displayed stats is relatively easy, but calculating the score if you equipped another piece of equipment is pretty difficult because you need to remove the influence (mdb, edb, crit chance, crit dmg, pabs) of your existing equipment in the same slot, and add the influence of the other equipment. So, don't do this manually. On the other hand, the magic score script does not account for equipment that is at a different level from you. So if you see a nice piece of equipment and wonder what it would be like if you bought and soulfused it... Well, you're in for some math and spreadsheet work.
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Nov 27 2015, 14:28
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nec1986
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But mostly magic score isnt something useful. At the moment difference in gear or clear or insignificant (doesnt worth soulfuse/iw). QUOTE(Void Domain @ Nov 27 2015, 14:52)  But you cant trade the fos item, if there is any profit its quite low (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Actually, maybe you right. Its not so good. I mean shrine kkk+ trophies to get 9 useless and 1 good peerless. This post has been edited by nec1986: Nov 27 2015, 14:29
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Nov 27 2015, 15:51
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DekomoriDesu
Group: Gold Star Club
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I'm not meaning renaame a monster >.< '''
I want to name a PL25 monster, but it doesn't let me. How do you guys activate a PL25 monster...
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Nov 27 2015, 15:52
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Dammon
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(DekomoriDesu @ Nov 27 2015, 05:51)  I'm not meaning renaame a monster >.< '''
I want to name a PL25 monster, but it doesn't let me. How do you guys activate a PL25 monster...
Feed it crystals until it is level 25 then click "rename" to give it a name. Make sure the name hasn't already been taken.
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Nov 27 2015, 16:01
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DekomoriDesu
Group: Gold Star Club
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So it must be '25', but not 26/27 ?
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