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Nov 24 2015, 19:24
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Fap.Fap
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QUOTE(Falbala456 @ Nov 24 2015, 16:03)  Dan31 > I use Imperil all the time on SGs with my Niten. Just need the SG to be imperiled and the rest die without looking at it. Best prof would be indeed Overpower and Fatality.
how long is a DWD tour with your Niten ? and what difficulty
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Nov 24 2015, 19:33
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Falbala456
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I don't think I'm the right one to ask that, Niten is really hard for the last arenas and I'm not the best player around. I did DwD on nightmare and it took me around an hour and a half. I need to finish upgrading/forging my stuff before being really cool I think, but it start to be costly.
I don't know how people do inside, but the SGs have so much hp it's boring.
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Nov 24 2015, 19:36
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(Falbala456 @ Nov 24 2015, 17:33)  I don't think I'm the right one to ask that, Niten is really hard for the last arenas and I'm not the best player around. I did DwD on nightmare and it took me around an hour and a half. I need to finish upgrading/forging my stuff before being really cool I think, but it start to be costly.
I don't know how people do inside, but the SGs have so much hp it's boring. Have you tried estoc? It should be a hell of a lot quicker than Niten regardless of your other gear.
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Nov 24 2015, 19:42
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Mantra64
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Since I don't get much from doing Arenas, I intend to max IW my leg weapons.
What profs would be the best for:
One Hand
Legendary Ethereal Axe of Slaughter Legendary Hallowed Axe of Slaughter
Legendary Ethereal Club of Slaughter Legendary Hallowed Club of Slaughter
Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Balance
Legendary Ethereal Wakizashi of the Nimble
Two Hand
Legendary Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter Legendary Hallowed Estoc of Slaughter
Legendary Ethereal Mace of Slaughter
Legendary Ethereal Katana of Slaughter
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Nov 24 2015, 19:44
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Falbala456
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Superlatanium > Not really. I mean, I did in the past but I really don't like 2H only. Maybe it can go quickier with the PA, anyway... I have this estoc currently. Edit : another problem is the hard lose of accuracy (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif). This post has been edited by Falbala456: Nov 24 2015, 19:49
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Nov 24 2015, 19:50
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arialinnoc
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QUOTE(Falbala456 @ Nov 25 2015, 00:33)  I don't know how people do inside, but the SGs have so much hp it's boring.
Skysword is very useful skill for niten. Did you try it yet?
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Nov 24 2015, 19:52
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Falbala456
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Of course, but Skyward Sword isn't the best idea for SG I found out. It ends too quickly since the PA only last 5 turns. It may be good to annihilate the various mobs around the SGs, but in the long run I find it more usefull to put on Spirit Stance and Imperil the SG and wake 'em out.
Out of SGs, I use it all the time and not much Spirit Stance.
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Nov 24 2015, 20:01
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boulay
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QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Nov 24 2015, 18:42)  Since I don't get much from doing Arenas, I intend to max IW my leg weapons.
What profs would be the best for:
One Hand
Legendary Ethereal Axe of Slaughter Legendary Hallowed Axe of Slaughter
Legendary Ethereal Club of Slaughter Legendary Hallowed Club of Slaughter
Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Balance
Legendary Ethereal Wakizashi of the Nimble
Two Hand
Legendary Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter Legendary Hallowed Estoc of Slaughter
Legendary Ethereal Mace of Slaughter
Legendary Ethereal Katana of Slaughter
Axe (or slashing weapons in general): butcher+overpower/fatality Club (or crushing): butcher+fatality rapier of balance/waki: fatality+swift strike/overpower estoc: butcher+overpower Then again, it depends on your build. This is more of a general approach... This post has been edited by boulay: Nov 24 2015, 20:03
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Nov 24 2015, 20:10
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Nov 24 2015, 17:42)  One Hand[
Legendary Ethereal Axe of Slaughter Legendary Hallowed Axe of Slaughter
Legendary Ethereal Club of Slaughter Legendary Hallowed Club of Slaughter
Legendary Ethereal Rapier of Balance
Legendary Ethereal Wakizashi of the Nimble SS and OP are pretty ineffective for 1h, and Butcher is great especially on Slaughter, so Fatality + Butcher for all, except Wakizashi, whose weapon damage is so low that Butcher isn't too helpful, so I suppose Fatality + anything for waki. QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Nov 24 2015, 17:42)  Two Hand
Legendary Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter Legendary Hallowed Estoc of Slaughter
Legendary Ethereal Mace of Slaughter
Legendary Ethereal Katana of Slaughter Especially on PF, Overpower is a must, else you'll get parried over and over again (for all but mace). The remaining decent potencies are Butcher and Fatality. Though Fatality gives more effective damage output than Butcher with rapiers, the difference is probably quite small for 2h weapons, since their ADB is significantly higher. So given how annoying IW is, I'd go with "Overpower + anything but SS". For mace, stuns make Overpower less useful (but still OK since you need to get the first hit in) - I'd go for Butcher, Fatality, and OP if it comes up. Also keep in mind elemental strike. With Ethereal weapons (any style), Holy/Dark strike gives a huge speed boost against schoolgirls, probably worth more than the previous 9 potencies combined. (but if you don't care about arenas that doesn't matter (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)) This post has been edited by Superlatanium: Nov 24 2015, 20:13
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Nov 24 2015, 20:38
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Cleavs
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just wondering, how would HV community react to an obsolete-only auction? being a regular auctioner seems a bit demanding, so better to test the waters before starting... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Nov 24 2015, 20:42
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Superlatanium
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 24 2015, 18:38)  just wondering, how would HV community react to an obsolete-only auction? being a regular auctioner seems a bit demanding, so better to test the waters before starting... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Why not? Those who are interested will look at it, and those who won't will ignore it (as done for many threads already). Only issue would be the lack of participants... but you would probably know more about that than me.
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Nov 24 2015, 20:44
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Mantra64
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QUOTE(boulay @ Nov 24 2015, 19:01)  Axe (or slashing weapons in general): butcher+overpower/fatality Club (or crushing): butcher+fatality rapier of balance/waki: fatality+swift strike/overpower
estoc: butcher+overpower
Then again, it depends on your build. This is more of a general approach...
QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 24 2015, 19:10)  SS and OP are pretty ineffective for 1h, and Butcher is great especially on Slaughter, so Fatality + Butcher for all, except Wakizashi, whose weapon damage is so low that Butcher isn't too helpful, so I suppose Fatality + anything for waki.Especially on PF, Overpower is a must, else you'll get parried over and over again (for all but mace). The remaining decent potencies are Butcher and Fatality. Though Fatality gives more effective damage output than Butcher with rapiers, the difference is probably quite small for 2h weapons, since their ADB is significantly higher. So given how annoying IW is, I'd go with "Overpower + anything but SS". For mace, stuns make Overpower less useful (but still OK since you need to get the first hit in) - I'd go for Butcher, Fatality, and OP if it comes up. Also keep in mind elemental strike. With Ethereal weapons (any style), Holy/Dark strike gives a huge speed boost against schoolgirls, probably worth more than the previous 9 potencies combined. (but if you don't care about arenas that doesn't matter (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)) Thank you for your advice. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Nov 24 2015, 20:55
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Epion
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Talking about collectibles, there is something called kevlar in the bazaar, plus a couple of legendaries.
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Nov 24 2015, 21:00
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Dan31
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QUOTE(Epion @ Nov 24 2015, 19:55)  Talking about collectibles, there is something called kevlar in the bazaar, plus a couple of legendaries.
I wish this was of any use (got this from a monster a long time ago).
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Nov 24 2015, 21:19
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 24 2015, 19:42)  Why not? Those who are interested will look at it, and those who won't will ignore it (as done for many threads already). Only issue would be the lack of participants... but you would probably know more about that than me.
uhu. so, i should try and see by myself, but at least it would be some kind of fresh air so chances are that it may have a bit of success, right? QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Nov 24 2015, 19:44)  Thank you for your advice. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) my two cents: while it's true that both Butcher and Fatality contribute to your total damage and raising ADB may be a bit more stable (read: not chance-depending like raising crit damage) Fatality should still have more impact on your overall damage, so i'd prioritize that above Butcher as much as possible QUOTE(Dan31 @ Nov 24 2015, 20:00)  I wish this was of any use (got this from a monster a long time ago). i would give you an offer if only i didn't own a 6 PAB one yet (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) This post has been edited by Scremaz: Nov 24 2015, 21:20
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Nov 24 2015, 22:47
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Cleavs
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another question, since once again i read about PABs benefits on Power armors:
i just swapped two Exq Armors (Body slot, just to amplify datas): Armor 1: 589 ADB, 79 STR, no DEX, 48 END, 21954 HP, 6680 total damage Armor 2: 548 ADB, 50 STR, 44 DEX, 54 END, 22040 HP, 6630 total damage (both rounded up)
the net result was -86 HP versus +50 ADB.
if you do a bit of math, it means ~14 HP/END, so for a decent END roll (50?) it means 700 HP difference. surely, with all abilities and VV stacked, but still... how come that +700 HP (out of 22k, thus ~3.2%) is so negligible? consider that VV perk costs 250 Hath and adds something like 1800 HP at my level.
on the other hand, +30 STR and -40 DEX gave a net incoming of +10ADB. now, even if you consider 1 STR = 1.33 ADB and 1 DEX = 0.67 ADB (as you can see from assigning EXP points), then 30 STR would've given +40 ADB. at this pace, a decent roll for STR (80 at my level - rather, a nice roll) would mean +100 ADB (out of 7k, thus ~1.4%). in this case, we may consider that it stacks with Butcher, STR/DEX forging, 1H Damage ability and so on.
given this, even if STR can have the highest possible roll among Power PABs, i would trade it for DEX (which can still boost ADB) and END without second thought. how comes people still prefer STR against END?
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Nov 24 2015, 23:01
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nec1986
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I think almost any 400+ lvl thinks only about clearspeed. Thats why many rerolls to mage.
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Nov 25 2015, 00:09
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Which arena gives the most profit per token, FSM or TT&T?
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Nov 25 2015, 00:16
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(name censored @ Nov 24 2015, 23:09)  Which arena gives the most profit per token, FSM or TT&T?
FSM: noodly + 3 SGs ~ 27k = 5.2 k/token TTT: noodly + unicorn horn + t-shirt + sapling ~ 36k = 3.6 k/token note that drops are too random to be considered, so i purposely didn't take them into account.
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Nov 25 2015, 00:23
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Dan31
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Don't do TT&T unless you have maxed your drop trainings and have too many blood tokens. Or if you haven't got the credits from first clear yet.
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