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post Nov 23 2015, 18:37
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 23 2015, 17:34) *

Nah, you got 100c. ISB only gives half the revenue to the seller.

But that's fine, since low-grade materials are nearly unsellable anyway, so getting half revenue is better than getting no revenue at all.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Skills#Weapon_Skills

"Using skills will drain Overcharge according to the table below."


Sometimes I wonder if Tenboro actually hates mages. I won't even bother getting this title then.
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post Nov 23 2015, 18:54
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Rude (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) I sell low grade clothes to the bot for 200c each :3



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Did u actually checked that u get 200c EACH.
Cos from what i know, the way itembot works, u sell an item to the bazaar item shop, if someone put a price on the item, u will sell it to them for that price and get only half of price in credit.
Low grade cloth is valued 200c in the item shop, so u will get approx 100c / cloth.


Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Let me get this straight.
If you sell a low-grade cloth to the item shop it sells for 2c each. Then IF someone buys a low grade cloth at 200c you get an extra 100c in auto?



QUOTE(izpekopon @ Nov 23 2015, 16:21) *

+1 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
When i first started, i sold an energy drink to the itemshop lol.


Look at the positive side.
I have used quite a few energy drinks by mistake while using the "restoratives" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

QUOTE(cichy133 @ Nov 23 2015, 16:37) *

Sometimes I wonder if Tenboro actually hates mages. I won't even bother getting this title then.


yet (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Nov 23 2015, 18:58
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I can't believe how much of an effect cast speed has. I switched from plain cap and Eco on staff to Charged cap and Spellweaver 5 on staff. Before, I could get to round 200-210 of GF before having to run. Now, I can get to round ~310-320 before suffering a similar amount of spirit damage/Sparks per round and having to flee. It's a huge difference.

But is it worth it? First: there's a cost. Before, I could get through the arenas using mana potions only rarely, maybe once every 50 rounds, or not at all if I get lucky with mana gems and riddlemaster. But now, potions are needed every 10-15 rounds. Over 800 standard arena rounds, that's ~64 potions = 6k credits per day. Not a whole lot, but some. High level training returns a lot less. In GF, it's a lot more, once every ~6 rounds (since Fullcure costs a lot).

Second: does more survivability matter? In arena, it doesn't, or at least I don't care about it. In GF, the effect on how far I can go is huge - but income doesn't change much. Average monsters killed per round is a tiny bit higher: ~20*4 + (300-20)*8.3 in 300 rounds ~= 8.01 monsters/round, compared to 7.87 monsters/round when fleeing at round 200. Round 200~: ~*3.7 crystal multiplier. Round 300~: ~*4.1 crystal multiplier. Even if someone has Crys5, that's a very small difference, especially since crystals are only a small part of GF revenue now. (vs artifacts, equipment) Also, since GF sucks in general, arena is always the first priority for completion, so better GF income may not help much even if it was substantial.

Another option: Forging. If I forge everything to 30 on top of what I already have, I might get 12% more base mana, which will go a long way towards letting mana draughts catch up with mana consumption. But forging is expensive.

(Also, the cost of GF is 130c/round for ED, which is a lot more than 92c/5round for potions. Tempting to not GF at all.)
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post Nov 23 2015, 19:01
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QUOTE(Epion @ Nov 24 2015, 00:54) *

I have used quite a few energy drinks by mistake while using the "restoratives" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Thats why everytime i get an energy drink, i immediately pack it with a cod to the highest price buyer.
Don't wanna risk accidentally gulping down 65k LOL (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Nov 23 2015, 19:08
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Nov 23 2015, 17:01) *
Thats why everytime i get an energy drink, i immediately pack it with a cod to the highest price buyer.
Don't wanna risk accidentally gulping down 65k LOL (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Want a confirmation button when using energy drink? That way there's no chance of using it accidentally.
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post Nov 23 2015, 19:12
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 24 2015, 01:08) *

Want a confirmation button when using energy drink? That way there's no chance of using it accidentally.

Sounds good (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Epion will probably benefit alot from that haha.
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post Nov 23 2015, 19:20
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Cast speed is super good the same reason why we're putting haste in IA slot ` 3`
But they're super expensive as well >"<
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post Nov 23 2015, 19:23
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 23 2015, 17:08) *

Want a confirmation button when using energy drink? That way there's no chance of using it accidentally.




YES!!!!!

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post Nov 23 2015, 19:31
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 23 2015, 19:58) *

But is it worth it?


Im using 5pen+4speed in staff. Dont think mana is very important. Well, maybe its not perfect in credits ratio, but i have enough credits. Easier play is also good.
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post Nov 23 2015, 19:51
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In a moment of madness i used up every single one of the trophies i was gathering to sell.
15 Noodly Appendages gave all exquisite trash. Not one magnificent drop. Not one.
From the rest i wasn't expecting too much... and i didn't get anything indeed (80% average, 15% superior, 5% exquisite)...
Beautiful...

Add this to my IWing a weapon to lv.10 in order to sell it and then i go and soulfuse it in place of the correct one that i was supposed to...
Right now i'm... not in the best mentality...

I have put my faith in the lottery. If one of my tickets wins me those soul fragments all good.
Otherwise...
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post Nov 23 2015, 20:11
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QUOTE(Epion @ Nov 23 2015, 20:51) *

15 Noodly Appendages


Ive did something like that not so long time ago, but i had 60+. Got nothing...
Now im shrining each day until my first leg.
But main idea its better to sell all trophies and buy equip. Much easier.
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post Nov 23 2015, 20:11
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QUOTE(Nekokon @ Nov 23 2015, 16:47) *

Finally there's something I can make use of in this auction, but there's already 3 4 people on it >"<

just wondering, which item? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(Nekokon @ Nov 23 2015, 16:47) *

Stunned monster can't avoid or parry, that's why you don't need anti-parry O 3O
Finally there's something I can make use of in this auction, but there's already 3 4 people on it >"<

QUOTE(karyl123 @ Nov 23 2015, 16:49) *

mace can stun. others cant. so you need to kill monster quickly with overpower before the monster hit you.

speaking about maces, what's better? Butcher 5 or Fatality 5?

QUOTE(izpekopon @ Nov 23 2015, 17:29) *

Low grade cloth is valued 200c in the item shop, so u will get approx 100c / cloth.

which is not bad at all. i may think about dumping a few LG on bazaar at this point...

QUOTE(Epion @ Nov 23 2015, 18:51) *

In a moment of madness i used up every single one of the trophies i was gathering to sell.
15 Noodly Appendages gave all exquisite trash. Not one magnificent drop. Not one.
From the rest i wasn't expecting too much... and i didn't get anything indeed (80% average, 15% superior, 5% exquisite)...
Beautiful...

now you understood the benefit of trophies, didn't you? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Nov 23 2015, 20:22
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 23 2015, 18:11) *

now you understood the benefit of trophies, didn't you? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Make me quit HV? o_O
Mmm... Didn't think Tenbo would have had a trap like that hidden in the game. I'm impressed (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I'm almost tempted to look at the trophies manipulation glitch... But then i remember to myself i'm me so... Naaaaaaaaaaa.

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 23 2015, 18:11) *

just wondering, which item? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


I think me ment:


http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=509e9151de

[Two-2]Legendary Arctic Mace of Slaughter

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post Nov 23 2015, 20:23
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There're some elec mage equipments around 370ish in wannaf's auction this week O xO
Please don't tell me you're going for them too Q AQ

Also, I think fatality is better on mace since 2h crit rate is really high O 3O And personally I think mace needs more crit to proc stun almost immediately after monsters got out of it.
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post Nov 23 2015, 20:31
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QUOTE(Nekokon @ Nov 23 2015, 18:23) *
There're some elec mage equipments around 370ish in wannaf's auction this week O xO
Please don't tell me you're going for them too Q AQ
Not for me, gl.
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post Nov 23 2015, 20:35
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QUOTE(Nekokon @ Nov 24 2015, 02:23) *

There're some elec mage equipments around 370ish in wannaf's auction this week O xO
Please don't tell me you're going for them too Q AQ

If u're talking about Sta-6, i can give up on it.
I just saw that its pretty low level and wanted to open an option for me to mage with.
I won't contest with u for it.
But i can't say about the others haha. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Nov 23 2015, 20:40
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 24 2015, 01:31) *

but i have enough credits.

You can always donate them to me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Nov 23 2015, 20:42
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 23 2015, 18:08) *

Want a confirmation button when using energy drink? That way there's no chance of using it accidentally.

QUOTE(Epion @ Nov 23 2015, 18:23) *

YES!!!!!

Okay. T'was easy enough.

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post Nov 23 2015, 21:00
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Right now, is hath expensive or cheap? Or in between?
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QUOTE(crazy3d @ Nov 23 2015, 20:00) *

Right now, is hath expensive or cheap? Or in between?

If you want to sell, it is cheap. If you want to buy, it is expensive. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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