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Nov 21 2015, 17:05
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izpekopon
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QUOTE(Epion @ Nov 21 2015, 22:30)  The only thing i can say is that i'm making monsters of all types and only have upgraded mecha and a celestial. All the rest are pretty much 0 upgrades. For non upgraded monsters, my humanoid got it's first win the very next day after i made it. My dragonkin has yet to get it's first win, making it the only monster i have with 0 wins. (Avian is the champion in wins from my monsters, surpassing in number even the upgraded monsters and giant is the only monster i have with killing blows even if also not upgraded).
Now this doesn't really mean anything. Sometimes i just unequip everything (equipment and press the empty "set 2") and spend some moments to enter a fight, die, repeat and so on... These are free wins for people and i always feel like the next few fights are easier after i do that... But still... I don't see dragons as decent monsters...
Have to disagree with that. [attachembed=74328] Dragonkins are pretty good at picking off newbies. If u remember what type of advice was given here regarding playstyle (low level wearing light armor and using 2h). Dragonkins can have physical piercing type attack that can be good against those low level shade users. Dragonkins have 25% mitigation from slashing and crushing type attacks. So yeah. Suddenly i feel very bad for targeting new players with my monsters. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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Nov 21 2015, 17:10
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Void Domain
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I am actually curious about Avion, its has the highest agi so it can sp attack sooner? Should be good at attrition like in gf? But Celestial already has 100 agi. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Nov 21 2015, 17:35
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tetron
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Nov 21 2015, 20:35)  Dragonkins are pretty good at picking off newbies. Dragonkins can have physical piercing type attack that can be good against those low level shade users. Dragonkins have 25% mitigation from slashing and crushing type attacks. So yeah. Suddenly i feel very bad for targeting new players with my monsters. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) That's all true, but there is a catch. Waaaaaaay too many players have low PL dragonkins, so for them to have a chance to appear in a battle is very difficult. On the other hand, Avion/Daimon are the neglected type of monsters, and right now, at low PL, they get the most number of battles, since there aren't many of them in the first place. I have Celestial & Dragonkin army of PL-200 each, and Giant & Daimon army of PL-25 each. Right now, my Daimon Army is getting all the wins regularly. Others are also getting wins, but not as frequently as the Daimons. (For example, my Giant army almost never gets any win!) Avion is the most neglected ones as of now. So that is the best type right now if you want regular wins with low PL.
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Nov 21 2015, 17:49
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izpekopon
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QUOTE(tetron @ Nov 21 2015, 23:35)  That's all true, but there is a catch. Waaaaaaay too many players have low PL dragonkins, so for them to have a chance to appear in a battle is very difficult. On the other hand, Avion/Daimon are the neglected type of monsters, and right now, at low PL, they get the most number of battles, since there aren't many of them in the first place.
I have Celestial & Dragonkin army of PL-200 each, and Giant & Daimon army of PL-25 each. Right now, my Daimon Army is getting all the wins regularly. Others are also getting wins, but not as frequently as the Daimons. (For example, my Giant army almost never gets any win!)
Avion is the most neglected ones as of now. So that is the best type right now if you want regular wins with low PL.
Guess my next monster's gonna be an Avion. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Nov 21 2015, 17:49
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Epion
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Nov 21 2015, 15:04)  [size=9000|AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH[/size]
That thing must have sailed right by me while I was staring at it
How in hell did I miss that?????????????????????????????????????
Well... there is still this if you want. Magnificent Zircon Force Shield of Stoneskin
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Nov 21 2015, 17:54
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nec1986
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If it ll have more attacks per turn than yes. Im not sure about it, because when i checked about their attacks it was as i remember in ~1,3-1,8 range during 1 standart turn (+- also). I even checked 2250pl for that. 25% action speed gives pf and 50% from training. Sum of that is quite close to high edge and for rly correct result we should collect high amount of attacks (i did quite fast estimation with 10-15).
So i think only action speed training and pf rly affects it. Mp/sp is always replacement of ordinary with some chance. More attacks - higher chance.
I was curios who is the best for fest also. But im not even sure class rly so important. The flee for me as mage always the long distance situation. I mean on pf i have to do it in ~200 round, because income damage just too high. So they hit me one by one until my sp points low enough. Well, some chance for that should exist. If its very powerful/tanky monster than it has higher chance to damage my sp. So it should have higher chance to win. And all similar classes, because they have higher chance to spawn in that round (we have limit for classes in round and very often its only 2-3). But also should be some chance for random, because even low power monster at that stage hits quite hard. So it can be powerful base attack (of few in row), it can be monster who got lucky high mp and used skill. Or maybe high resist/hp/defense monster who has sustain. Mage has higher chance to flee in 15turns round than 6turns. There are few ways to make my sp fall. So its quite hard to say who is rly better. For that we should analyze many flee situations and check what is more important.
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Nov 21 2015, 18:38
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Dan31
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QUOTE(Epion @ Nov 21 2015, 16:49)  Well... there is still this if you want. Magnificent Zircon Force Shield of Stoneskin Stoneskin, no STR, meh.
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Nov 21 2015, 18:40
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Nov 21 2015, 13:49)  What is the "Special" Column?
just a bump, since it's on another page. do perhaps someone know what does that 'Special' column mean? or again, i just checked my lab and no mobs have a value on that column, so do someone with a big enough monster pool ever saw something different than 'none' ?
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Nov 21 2015, 18:50
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Void Domain
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 22 2015, 00:40)  just a bump, since it's on another page. do perhaps someone know what does that 'Special' column mean? or again, i just checked my lab and no mobs have a value on that column, so do someone with a big enough monster pool ever saw something different than 'none' ?
Should be just a place holder for future stuff. all my mobs are none.
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Nov 21 2015, 19:01
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tetron
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 21 2015, 22:10)  just a bump, since it's on another page. do perhaps someone know what does that 'Special' column mean?
I guess it means in future they will be able to wear Accessories or something like it.
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Nov 21 2015, 19:04
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tetron
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Legendaries are flooding the Bazaar right now!
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Nov 21 2015, 19:05
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izpekopon
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QUOTE(tetron @ Nov 22 2015, 01:04)  Legendaries are flooding the Bazaar right now!
ikr, just saw. Tons of unassigned leather and waki.
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Nov 21 2015, 19:11
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tetron
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Nov 21 2015, 19:16
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Falbala456
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Nov 21 2015, 19:17
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tetron
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QUOTE(Falbala456 @ Nov 21 2015, 22:46)  Not all. Some good Unassigned ones were there too. This post has been edited by tetron: Nov 21 2015, 19:17
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Nov 21 2015, 19:39
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Epion
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