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post Nov 21 2015, 09:25
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Nov 20 2015, 19:18) *

Humanoid is just not good. You want monsters with high hp (giant, undead, Arthropod) or high attack (Celestial). Or maybe Dragonkin and Mechanoid they are something in between.


Therefore? It's useless? No strategy? It's just broken? That's dumb.
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post Nov 21 2015, 09:38
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QUOTE(crazy3d @ Nov 21 2015, 07:25) *
Therefore? It's useless? No strategy? It's just broken? That's dumb.
Just like Blind, Drain (most of the time), shortswords, Vampire/Illithid/Banshee, Metabolism, forge level, and so on and so fourth. Many things are "just broken", and yes it is dumb, blame 10b for not having enough time or desire to balance things.
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post Nov 21 2015, 10:04
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Thats not rly true. Humanoid has higher base attack damage than celestial, sprite, avion and elemental. Also quite strong mp and sp attacks. Dragonkin has in 1/3 lower sp damage than humanoid. Usually any class has some good sides. But few indeed has too many good sides.
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post Nov 21 2015, 10:07
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humanoid will not get buff coz frith eila is humanoid (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Nov 21 2015, 10:41
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QUOTE(stryker115 @ Nov 21 2015, 05:44) *

I have 200 hath

which perk should I buy?


Innate arcana is super good. I'm getting ia3 in few days and will probably get 4 or even 5 later.
And after ia I'll definitely get +hp perk, then moar crystals perk.

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post Nov 21 2015, 11:23
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QUOTE(stryker115 @ Nov 21 2015, 05:58) *

I'll probably go for Vigorous Vitality then

I already have IA3 anyway

then VV, no doubt

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I have some humanoid (mob). It is not very good at collecting stuff cause it doesn't win very often. Name: Yulia Lipnitskaya. Stats: Plvl421 STR+10 DEX+9 AGI+9 END+11 INT+6 WIS+8 FIRE+20 (25) COLD+22 (27) ELEC+20 (25) WIND+20 (25) HOLY+19 (23) DARK+0 (-25)

Maxed the stats requiring chaos tokens.

I wanna know: What crystals should I invest and upgrade to make it better? Or should I just start a new mob? What's the correct build for humanoids btw?

you can either choose between bringing it to PL1000 or so or start another mob, bring it to PL25-50 and go with another mob - to rely on 3-days gifts. after having spent a bit of time on few mobs, personally i discovered that a bunch of small fry is way better than a small amount of strong ones
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post Nov 21 2015, 12:02
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 21 2015, 16:04) *

Dragonkin has in 1/3 lower sp damage than humanoid.

1/3? But the wiki says the power of Dragonkin's SP attack is 100, so does Humanoid's.

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post Nov 21 2015, 12:12
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Nov 21 2015, 18:02) *

1/3? But the wiki says the power of Dragonkin's SP attack is 100, so does Humanoid's.

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Could it be because Dragonkin stats are physical-focused, while their SP attack is magical?
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post Nov 21 2015, 12:14
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still, humanoids' SP attack is quite versatile and even their base stats aren't that bad (maybe a bit low END). they don't seem so bad on the paper...
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post Nov 21 2015, 12:17
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QUOTE(stryker115 @ Nov 21 2015, 11:58) *

I'll probably go for Vigorous Vitality then

I already have IA3 anyway


keep your hath. buy a GS. for better gallery experience.
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post Nov 21 2015, 12:28
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Nov 21 2015, 18:12) *

Could it be because Dragonkin stats are physical-focused, while their SP attack is magical?

Wiki is wrong, Dragonkin sp can be phy/magic and piercing/crushing/fire.
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post Nov 21 2015, 13:03
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Whats the best way to get items to repair gear? I have to repair every month and the bills are stacking up!
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post Nov 21 2015, 13:15
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Whats the best way to get items to repair gear? I have to repair every month and the bills are stacking up!

for me , usually come from salvaged mats (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

sometime still buy it from bazaar (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 21 2015, 13:26
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Whats the best way to get items to repair gear? I have to repair every month and the bills are stacking up!

You can salvage equipment of Average and lower quality. Make sure their sale price is in the 101~150c or 201~225c range if you want scraps to not cost more than 75c each. You can get energy cells from salvaging rare equipment (force shield, phase, shade, power armor), but I'm unsure about how profitable it is (I haven't looked at it yet). As for catalysts, the only way to get them is to buy them from the item shop.

1H, 2H and heavy armor yield scrap metal, staffs and shields yields scrap wood, cloth yields scrap cloth, light armor yields scrap leather.

Repair when the condition is at 51~60% or 76~80%, with 51% and 76% being best.

You can use HV Conditionner to repair your gear directly through the Equipment tab. (For more scripts, look on the wiki.)

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post Nov 21 2015, 13:31
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Nov 21 2015, 03:26) *

Repair when the condition is at 51~60% or 76~80%, with 51% and 76% being best.


This was true when catalysts were required for repairs but I believe that it is no longer the case.
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QUOTE(Dammon @ Nov 21 2015, 18:31) *

This was true when catalysts were required for repairs but I believe that it is no longer the case.

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best time to repair equipments for me is when those weapon/armor damage appear (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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QUOTE(Void Domain @ Nov 21 2015, 18:28) *

Wiki is wrong, Dragonkin sp can be phy/magic and piercing/crushing/fire.


Hmm. Then, if we had any choice of damage type apart from void, ie. (physical|magical) and (piercing|slashing|crushing|fire|cold|wind|elec|holy|dark) for the monster, which is generally best?

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post Nov 21 2015, 14:09
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still, humanoids' SP attack is quite versatile and even their base stats aren't that bad (maybe a bit low END). they don't seem so bad on the paper...

Except zero resistances, unlike any other mob class.
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post Nov 21 2015, 14:14
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QUOTE(jacquelope @ Nov 21 2015, 12:09) *

Except zero resistances, unlike any other mob class.


True, but they also along with beast have the least weaknesses, at least according to the wiki, only a light weakness to dark.

Everything else has multiple weaknesses either in minor or mixed across minor and light.
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post Nov 21 2015, 14:18
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QUOTE(mozilla browser @ Nov 21 2015, 19:52) *

Hmm. Then, if we had any choice of damage type apart from void, ie. (physical|magical) and (piercing|slashing|crushing|fire|cold|wind|elec|holy|dark) for the monster, which is generally best?

I think its phy piercing, good against shade and mage. For heavy armor, they usually run with 1h, which cant be killed anyway.

Yet most dmg incoming is crushing, I think giant is just too good.
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