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post Nov 20 2015, 20:41
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QUOTE(Nekokon @ Nov 20 2015, 19:00) *

The only difference is the huge burden and interference Q xQ

ITR isn't a problem at all. as for BUR, it will only lower your crit chance a bit if >70, but still bearable i guess
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post Nov 20 2015, 21:20
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QUOTE(Epion @ Nov 20 2015, 19:38) *

You people are all saying you prefer having dark/holy attacks on the weapons. I suppose for the SGs.
However the SGs are only for the last 3 arenas and 1-3 monsters per round. Giants and the other high endurance monsters that are ever present are much more troublesome for my tastes, specially when after an OFC i have still every monster well and kicking o_O

Am i missing something or are the holy/dark needed just for a quick clear of SG arenas?

If you look at the overall monster resistances for holy and dark, you will find out that they trump all other elements.
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post Nov 20 2015, 21:32
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Nov 20 2015, 18:55) *

4 PAB weapons weren't all that rare, but Leg grade is still something, especially if free - or almost. nice shot (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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QUOTE(Epion @ Nov 20 2015, 19:38) *

Now... since it just came to my mind... a... stupid question i want to ask for quite some time now.

You people are all saying you prefer having dark/holy attacks on the weapons. I suppose for the SGs.
However the SGs are only for the last 3 arenas and 1-3 monsters per round. Giants and the other high endurance monsters that are ever present are much more troublesome for my tastes, specially when after an OFC i have still every monster well and kicking o_O

Am i missing something or are the holy/dark needed just for a quick clear of SG arenas?

If you look at the overall monster resistances for holy and dark, you will find out that they trump all other elements.

judging by the actual monster distribution i consider Dark more useful than Holy, but i may be wrong (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Nov 20 2015, 21:40
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QUOTE(Epion @ Nov 20 2015, 14:38) *

You people are all saying you prefer having dark/holy attacks on the weapons. I suppose for the SGs.
However the SGs are only for the last 3 arenas and 1-3 monsters per round. Giants and the other high endurance monsters that are ever present are much more troublesome for my tastes, specially when after an OFC i have still every monster well and kicking o_O

Am i missing something or are the holy/dark needed just for a quick clear of SG arenas?


3/4 school girls has 0 holy/dark mitigation, and the only one with -75 holy/dark mitigation (Konata) is a lot weaker than the other 3.
The time you spend to kill those school girls takes like 80 - 90% of the total time you spend each round, so with holy/dark strike you would be clearing them much faster (like, if you can kill school girls in half the time each, then your would spend about 40% less time in total)
We're only talking about how fast you can clear, so it's assumed you won't get any trouble staying alive. If you do then your element won't affect that much, since you would spend a lot of time healing/rebuff anyway.
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post Nov 20 2015, 21:41
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QUOTE(ChanForu @ Nov 20 2015, 12:12) *
Is IA3 worth it for mages? I seem to get enough channelling to sustain all/most of buffs.
It's for lazy play. Some think that's worth it, but it's not essential.
QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 20 2015, 16:48) *
it's exactly the lack of a PAB that made it possible for you to find them on bazaar (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

surely you would eventually feel the lack of a PAB on each of them, but for a low-budget build (how much for the lot? 200k or so?) surely it's a nice achievement
I dunno. IMO, 1h with Power lacking Endurance is fine, since 1h is invulnerable anyway. It used to be useful for GF, where damage taken mattered, but there's no point to GF anymore. I only had 2 3-PAB Power equips until a month ago or so, and I still felt like I had way more END than I needed to play mindlessly.

But if it's lacking DEX or STR, that's probably worse.
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post Nov 20 2015, 21:56
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QUOTE(Nekokon @ Nov 20 2015, 20:40) *

3/4 school girls has 0 holy/dark mitigation, and the only one with -75 holy/dark mitigation (Konata) is a lot weaker than the other 3.
The time you spend to kill those school girls takes like 80 - 90% of the total time you spend each round, so with holy/dark strike you would be clearing them much faster (like, if you can kill school girls in half the time each, then your would spend about 40% less time in total)
We're only talking about how fast you can clear, so it's assumed you won't get any trouble staying alive. If you do then your element won't affect that much, since you would spend a lot of time healing/rebuff anyway.

true, but he's speaking about all common uses, sp he asked: "if you don't do SG arenas, what's the big deal about Holy/Dark strikes? wouldn't any other element be more useful in these conditions?" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 20 2015, 20:41) *

It's for lazy play. Some think that's worth it, but it's not essential.I dunno. IMO, 1h with Power lacking Endurance is fine, since 1h is invulnerable anyway. It used to be useful for GF, where damage taken mattered, but there's no point to GF anymore. I only had 2 3-PAB Power equips until a month ago or so, and I still felt like I had way more END than I needed to play mindlessly.

But if it's lacking DEX or STR, that's probably worse.

well, even though power armors are tanky i still find END nice to have - afterall the perk that raises your HP is worth 250 Hath and nobody would play without HP Tank/Better HP abilities, so why throw away a boost to HP? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
as for DEX - quite versatile of a stat: boosts ATK, ACC, crit, parry... almost anything, so quite mandatory.
but STR? it only raises ATK a bit (4/3 ATK for every STR point, added multiplicatively) and crit, but less than what DEX would do. for SP Tank purposes even the fact it has the highest roll is mitigated by that 1/6 thing, so if one armor really *had* to miss a PAB personally i'd prefer to be STR
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post Nov 20 2015, 21:59
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post Nov 20 2015, 22:11
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 21 2015, 03:56) *

well, even though power armors are tanky i still find END nice to have - afterall the perk that raises your HP is worth 250 Hath and nobody would play without HP Tank/Better HP abilities, so why throw away a boost to HP? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
as for DEX - quite versatile of a stat: boosts ATK, ACC, crit, parry... almost anything, so quite mandatory.
but STR? it only raises ATK a bit (4/3 ATK for every STR point, added multiplicatively) and crit, but less than what DEX would do. for SP Tank purposes even the fact it has the highest roll is mitigated by that 1/6 thing, so if one armor really *had* to miss a PAB personally i'd prefer to be STR

+1, i also prefer DEX END over STR.

Also earlier in the Bazaar i saw a bunch of level unassigned legendary Wakis, at least 3-4 of them, mixed with a few level assigned ones. I couldn't buy any, seems like some1 snag all of them.
What i don't understand is that after awhile, i went back to check on the status of those item and they were salvaged.
What do u get when u salvage a legendary waki, a HGM, maybe couple of scrap metal and maybe energy cells?
Buying from the bazaar just to salvage it seems pretty foolish, considering the buy price and the returns.

Any idea why would some1 do that? Or am i missing something.

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post Nov 20 2015, 22:20
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Nov 20 2015, 21:11) *

+1, i also prefer DEX END over STR.

Also earlier in the Bazaar i saw a bunch of level unassigned legendary Wakis, at least 3-4 of them, mixed with a few level assigned ones. I couldn't buy any, seems like some1 snag all of them.
What i don't understand is that after awhile, i went back to check on the status of those item and they were salvaged.
What do u get when u salvage a legendary waki, a HGM, maybe couple of scrap metal and maybe energy cells?
Buying from the bazaar just to salvage it seems pretty foolish, considering the buy price and the returns.

Any idea why would some1 do that? Or am i missing something.

energy cells only if you salvage rares - which nowadays is limited to force shields and phase/shade/power armors.
however probably they were caught in a periodic cleanup. dunno, bazaar behaves quite strangely every now and then *shrug*
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post Nov 21 2015, 05:17
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 21 2015, 04:20) *

energy cells only if you salvage rares - which nowadays is limited to force shields and phase/shade/power armors.
however probably they were caught in a periodic cleanup. dunno, bazaar behaves quite strangely every now and then *shrug*

No it can't be the system clean-up. Legendary takes a longer time to 'decompose' and besides, if it was clean-up by system, it would have the owner as 'system' for awhile just before it becomes 'no such item found'.
And considering that the level unassigned ones came in around the same time as those level assigned legendary waki, i'm pretty sure some1 bought them, as the level assigned ones were still there for a good duration.

My only guess is that some1 mass bought all the level unassigned ones in anticipation that some1 might get to it before them. Then found that all the stats sucked and their not usable and decided to scrap them.

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post Nov 21 2015, 05:40
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QUOTE(izpekopon @ Nov 21 2015, 05:17) *

No it can't be the system clean-up. Legendary takes a longer time to 'decompose' and besides, if it was clean-up by system, it would have the owner as 'system' for awhile just before it becomes 'no such item found'.
And considering that the level unassigned ones came in around the same time as those level assigned legendary waki, i'm pretty sure some1 bought them, as the level assigned ones were still there for a good duration.

My only guess is that some1 mass bought all the level unassigned ones in anticipation that some1 might get to it before them. Then found that all the stats sucked and their not usable and decided to scrap them.

I would guess that it was a purge like Scremaz said. As far as I know only purges remove equipment that fast, if someone scrapped them they would be around much longer because you can buy back scrapped items for 24 hours.

Not 100% sure if other people can see the scrapped items with equipment links, but if you can see this Fair Leather Helmet I scrapped today, the Legendaries were most likely purged and not scrapped.
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post Nov 21 2015, 06:16
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post Nov 21 2015, 06:19
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How do I check how much hath I have?

You can see the exact amount at https://e-hentai.org/hathperks.php and also on the Hath Exchange.
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post Nov 21 2015, 06:30
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QUOTE(Logii @ Nov 21 2015, 11:40) *

I would guess that it was a purge like Scremaz said. As far as I know only purges remove equipment that fast, if someone scrapped them they would be around much longer because you can buy back scrapped items for 24 hours.

Not 100% sure if other people can see the scrapped items with equipment links, but if you can see this Fair Leather Helmet I scrapped today, the Legendaries were most likely purged and not scrapped.

Hmm seems to be the case then.
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post Nov 21 2015, 06:44
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I have 200 hath

which perk should I buy?
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I have 200 hath

which perk should I buy?

Source Nexus (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Edit: seriously though, for HentaiVerse, probably Innate Arcana or wait for Vigorous Vitality. Also wait for the real experts to answer.

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QUOTE(Logii @ Nov 21 2015, 12:47) *

Source Nexus (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Edit: seriously though, for HentaiVerse, probably Innate Arcana or wait for Vigorous Vitality. Also wait for the real experts to answer.

I'll probably go for Vigorous Vitality then

I already have IA3 anyway
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post Nov 21 2015, 07:18
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post Nov 21 2015, 09:06
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I have some humanoid (mob). It is not very good at collecting stuff cause it doesn't win very often. Name: Yulia Lipnitskaya. Stats: Plvl421 STR+10 DEX+9 AGI+9 END+11 INT+6 WIS+8 FIRE+20 (25) COLD+22 (27) ELEC+20 (25) WIND+20 (25) HOLY+19 (23) DARK+0 (-25)

Maxed the stats requiring chaos tokens.

I wanna know: What crystals should I invest and upgrade to make it better? Or should I just start a new mob? What's the correct build for humanoids btw?

Thanks in advance.
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I have some humanoid (mob). It is not very good at collecting stuff cause it doesn't win very often. Name: Yulia Lipnitskaya. Stats: Plvl421 STR+10 DEX+9 AGI+9 END+11 INT+6 WIS+8 FIRE+20 (25) COLD+22 (27) ELEC+20 (25) WIND+20 (25) HOLY+19 (23) DARK+0 (-25)

Maxed the stats requiring chaos tokens.

I wanna know: What crystals should I invest and upgrade to make it better? Or should I just start a new mob? What's the correct build for humanoids btw?

Thanks in advance.

Humanoid is just not good. You want monsters with high hp (giant, undead, Arthropod) or high attack (Celestial). Or maybe Dragonkin and Mechanoid they are something in between.
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