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Nov 20 2015, 18:25
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Nekokon
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 20 2015, 11:46)  nope. actually it's 5x its original bazaar value (which means 25x its sell value), with a *bare minimum* of 10k basically something like CODE buying_value = MAX ( ( 25 * sell_value ), 10k ) So expensive Q xQ Luckily I haven't accidentally sold anything valuable Q xQ I don't quite understand how can you upgrade your equipment through bazaar though O xO Sure there are things with better stats than my current ones, but the increase is super minor it usually isn't worth spending money on. Maybe except for shield I guess O xO
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Nov 20 2015, 18:48
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 24,317
Joined: 18-January 07

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QUOTE(Nekokon @ Nov 20 2015, 17:25)  Maybe except for shield I guess O xO
well, shield is quite important in a 1H build, surely more than rapier & forging it is way more expensive, regardless of the kind. personally i think you'd better spend a bit more when you buy it rather than be forced to forge it to the limit QUOTE(izpekopon @ Nov 20 2015, 17:45)  I disagree with ur statement. All these are found from the Bazaar. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Except the lack of a PAB, the rest of the stats seem pretty good to me. it's exactly the lack of a PAB that made it possible for you to find them on bazaar (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) surely you would eventually feel the lack of a PAB on each of them, but for a low-budget build (how much for the lot? 200k or so?) surely it's a nice achievement This post has been edited by Scremaz: Nov 20 2015, 18:50
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Nov 20 2015, 19:06
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Nekokon
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That is quite a nice set you got there O AO Whenever I check up bazaar 70% of them are above lv450, and 20% are superior or below Q xQ Random question, should I upgrade block for this shield O xO ? http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=09b56f3651Each upgrade would cost me like 15k at least, for less than 1% block Q xQ And this shield pushed me to 75 burden Q xQ Last time I saw a legendary buckler or barrier with 34 35ish block it was sold around 150k, but since then I haven't seen any other in the auction >"<
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Nov 20 2015, 19:25
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Epion
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 20-February 08

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magnificent power armor of warding level 373 in the bazaar if someone needs it.
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Nov 20 2015, 19:34
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Epion
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 20-February 08

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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 19 2015, 22:03)  But mostly there are many good power of protection in auc for quite cheap price (250k-500k). Thats much better for soulfusing. http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=bc1b2fc87a this one 250k http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=c12267bc00 this one 50k Its not rly good examples, but its also lower price. Sometimes its rly lucky rolls. 250-500k are a bit too much for me (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I have them all right. I have 1M credits and several millions of GP aside. But at this point i need to start gathering some for training. Plus those where too high level for me, so i would not have been able to equip them anyway (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) My equip is not that bad i think. Couple of weeks ago i had these: exquisite weapon bazaar bought. exquisite shield selffound exquisite head selffound. exquisite body selffound exquisite hands bazaar bought. exquisite legs selffound. exquisite feet selffound. It would take me at that point A LOT of time and effort to try IW on mag/leg equipment at even hell and nintendo. I could do even DwD at pf but it took hours and hours (5-6 hours i think, but including breaks). Then i get to find magnificent buckler and almost together magnificent body. At that time i got the idea to swap to 1h/light armor so i didn't really try them too much. Unfortunately soon i realized that light armor is much much better with DW, since most attacks would get evaded rather than blocked and DW has so much more damage. So i let DW/light as a "clear the last arena" quickly at hard and looked at the wts for some equip. So as i test the 1h/heavy with the mag shield+body i noticed a HUGE difference with before. Things got soooooooooooooooooooooo much easier it was worrisome. Stayed with them for a while and then i decided to visit the WTS. Bought this for head at 110k and it devastated my soul fragments (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) These for feet at 40k and then this and this for 10k and 40k but unfortunately i had miscalculated my soul fragment numbers so i don't have enough to equip them. Yesterday i found alternative hands so till i get to the level of the ones i bought i'll keep them. So right now i'm ok i think.  No doubt i need either a better shield or to upgrade my equipped one, but since i can do PF runs on arena TT&T with ease, i don't see the need. Yeah, if i want to do legendary equip IW at PF it's still hard, but at this point i can just do DWD at hard with DW/light and then according to the time left at PF TT&T and perhaps also eve of death and to kill a god (best exp gains for the time used). Am i wrong?
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Nov 20 2015, 19:34
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nobody_xxx
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Nekokon @ Nov 21 2015, 00:06)  That is quite a nice set you got there O AO Whenever I check up bazaar 70% of them are above lv450, and 20% are superior or below Q xQ Random question, should I upgrade block for this shield O xO ? http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=09b56f3651Each upgrade would cost me like 15k at least, for less than 1% block Q xQ And this shield pushed me to 75 burden Q xQ Last time I saw a legendary buckler or barrier with 34 35ish block it was sold around 150k, but since then I haven't seen any other in the auction >"< perfect PAB (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) well , I think just wait to find better shield that you will use it for long time (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) that mag force shield is not even protection or warding suffix (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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Nov 20 2015, 19:39
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nobody_xxx
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Epion @ Nov 21 2015, 00:34)  250-500k are a bit too much for me (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I have them all right. I have 1M credits and several millions of GP aside. But at this point i need to start gathering some for training. Plus those where too high level for me, so i would not have been able to equip them anyway (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) My equip is not that bad i think. Couple of weeks ago i had these: exquisite weapon bazaar bought. exquisite shield selffound exquisite head selffound. exquisite body selffound exquisite hands bazaar bought. exquisite legs selffound. exquisite feet selffound. It would take me at that point A LOT of time and effort to try IW on mag/leg equipment at even hell and nintendo. I could do even DwD at pf but it took hours and hours (5-6 hours i think, but including breaks). Then i get to find magnificent buckler and almost together magnificent body. At that time i got the idea to swap to 1h/light armor so i didn't really try them too much. Unfortunately soon i realized that light armor is much much better with DW, since most attacks would get evaded rather than blocked and DW has so much more damage. So i let DW/light as a "clear the last arena" quickly at hard and looked at the wts for some equip. So as i test the 1h/heavy with the mag shield+body i noticed a HUGE difference with before. Things got soooooooooooooooooooooo much easier it was worrisome. Stayed with them for a while and then i decided to visit the WTS. Bought this for head at 110k and it devastated my soul fragments (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) These for feet at 40k and then this and this for 10k and 40k but unfortunately i had miscalculated my soul fragment numbers so i don't have enough to equip them. Yesterday i found alternative hands so till i get to the level of the ones i bought i'll keep them. So right now i'm ok i think.  No doubt i need either a better shield or to upgrade my equipped one, but since i can do PF runs on arena TT&T with ease, i don't see the need. Yeah, if i want to do legendary equip IW at PF it's still hard, but at this point i can just do DWD at hard with DW/light and then according to the time left at PF TT&T and perhaps also eve of death and to kill a god (best exp gains for the time used). Am i wrong? well , first thing you need to upgrade your rapier into at least mag tier (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) mag holymag demonicyou can have 1 of my mag rapier of slaughter if you want for free (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Nov 20 2015, 19:40
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Nov 20 2015, 19:41
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 18-January 07

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QUOTE(Nekokon @ Nov 20 2015, 18:06)  Random question, should I upgrade block for this shield O xO ? http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=09b56f3651Each upgrade would cost me like 15k at least, for less than 1% block Q xQ And this shield pushed me to 75 burden Q xQ Last time I saw a legendary buckler or barrier with 34 35ish block it was sold around 150k, but since then I haven't seen any other in the auction >"< if you compare your shield forged a bit and that buckler, you will find that there isn't that big of a difference (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) however i'd suggest you to upgrade it further only if you cannot really find anything better for a reasonable amount of credits. QUOTE(Epion @ Nov 20 2015, 18:34)  Bought this for head at 110k and it devastated my soul fragments (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) yup. i know what you mean (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Nov 20 2015, 19:49
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TygerTyger
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 6-January 11

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Took many eons but I finally got my first peerless!
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Nov 20 2015, 20:00
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Nekokon
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Joined: 20-May 11

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Congratulation on your first peerless ` 3' And sorry for the ethereal - redwood - of elementalist Q xQ Truely the best combination of the worst prefix, type and suffix together Q xQ QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 20 2015, 13:41)  if you compare your shield forged a bit and that buckler, you will find that there isn't that big of a difference (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) however i'd suggest you to upgrade it further only if you cannot really find anything better for a reasonable amount of credits. yup. i know what you mean (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) The only difference is the huge burden and interference Q xQ Hope there will be more good buckler in the next auction. Recently there're either high level or super high end equipment in both auction O xO
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Nov 20 2015, 20:16
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nec1986
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QUOTE(Nekokon @ Nov 20 2015, 18:14)  How do you know what's your magic score ? I can't find it anywhere in the wiki O xO Also, isn't 4% difference kind of ...small ?
Magic score is mdb*(1+edb/100)*(1 + crit/200). In past we used script for that, but seems it doesnt work correct anymore cos lvl/soulfusing stuff. In other words its something like adb for melee, but more important, because mage has weak defense and fast clear is musthave for lower income damage. I was impressed because only few points in staff below max is enough for 900 difference. Its very big amount. For example 33-->50 forge for all 4 phases in my set d give same 900 points (its ~17*4*210k=14,3m credits). QUOTE(TygerTyger @ Nov 20 2015, 20:49)  Took many eons but I finally got my first peerless!Gz. My first was leather, so you got not so bad one. At least it works a bit with 5 phase. This post has been edited by nec1986: Nov 20 2015, 20:20
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Nov 20 2015, 20:38
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Epion
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 3,350
Joined: 20-February 08

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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Nov 20 2015, 17:39)  well , first thing you need to upgrade your rapier into at least mag tier (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) mag holymag demonicyou can have 1 of my mag rapier of slaughter if you want for free (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Thanks but don't worry about it. To boot things, right now i have 46 only soul fragments and i need to gather up to 121 for the leggings i bought. So even if i wanted i could not get them (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Well worse case scenario i have this bought from the bazaar. Even if it doesn't have an elemental attack i can enchant it according to the needs. But all in all... i can wait as well. Now... since it just came to my mind... a... stupid question i want to ask for quite some time now. You people are all saying you prefer having dark/holy attacks on the weapons. I suppose for the SGs. However the SGs are only for the last 3 arenas and 1-3 monsters per round. Giants and the other high endurance monsters that are ever present are much more troublesome for my tastes, specially when after an OFC i have still every monster well and kicking o_O Am i missing something or are the holy/dark needed just for a quick clear of SG arenas?
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Nov 20 2015, 20:38
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Epion
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 20-February 08

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QUOTE(TygerTyger @ Nov 20 2015, 17:49)  Took many eons but I finally got my first peerless!gratz
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