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Aug 6 2011, 16:33
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Zero Angel
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QUOTE(rawrboy @ Aug 6 2011, 22:08)  Once again with the ignorant assumption, "claiming that its a piece o'cake to do that on BT." WHEN, and how are you jumping to such idiotic conclusions. Why do you assume everything is about an Ego, when its just you. I'm a low level player trying to power level up to higher level to get access to more Arena and yet you assume some really idiotic stuff about me.
Everything you've said has been assumptions about me "Him, claiming that its a piece o'cake to do that on BT" another wild imagination of yours. When have I claim anything, the only thing I've claimed is me doing IWBTH in grindfest to power level to get access to more arenas. I even stated I only average around 10rounds in IWBTH Grindfest.
QUOTE(rawrboy @ Aug 6 2011, 22:28)  I was under the assumption
.....and yet you can jump to such dumb conclusions.
Lol. QUOTE(rawrboy @ Aug 6 2011, 22:33)  See only a person who cares about their own ego would jump to a conclusion like that. I mean really, 1 sentence made you jump to a conclusion that I was trying to show off?
People aren't saying you're showing off. People are saying that you're an idiot for posting that "Just do it in BT" shit, when you haven't even tried anything remotely close to it. This post has been edited by Rei-Tenshi: Aug 6 2011, 16:37
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Aug 6 2011, 16:43
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rawrboy
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QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Aug 6 2011, 07:33)  Lol. People aren't saying you're showing off. People are saying that you're an idiot for posting that "Just do it in BT" shit, when you haven't even tried anything remotely close to it.
Um have you read a single thing Miala has typed. I made a suggestion based off of what I was reading through the Leveling Up Items thread, and saw quite a few people doing it on BT. The fact that you're saying that nobody said I was trying to show off proved to me you didn't read a single thing, so read before you comment. Theres a big difference between making an assumption over data you read and making a judgement on a person.
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Aug 6 2011, 16:45
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Zero Angel
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QUOTE(rawrboy @ Aug 6 2011, 22:43)  Um have you read a single thing Miala has typed. I made a suggestion based off of what I was reading through the Leveling Up Items thread, and saw quite a few people doing it on BT. The fact that you're saying that nobody said I was trying to show off proved to me you didn't read a single thing, so read before you comment.
Theres a big difference between making an assumption over data you read and making a judgement on a person.
So its wrong for them to make assumptions, but its all OK if you do. Nice. And read the bolded parts of my previous post. Try practicing what you preach.
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Aug 6 2011, 16:45
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Ichy
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QUOTE(rawrboy @ Aug 6 2011, 16:43)  Um have you read a single thing Miala has typed. I made a suggestion based off of what I was reading through the Leveling Up Items thread, and saw quite a few people doing it on BT. The fact that you're saying that nobody said I was trying to show off proved to me you didn't read a single thing, so read before you comment.
Theres a big difference between making an assumption over data you read and making a judgement on a person.
Last patch changed a lot. You might want to read the patch notes where I complained how impossible it is to do a High level Item World on BT.
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Aug 6 2011, 16:49
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rawrboy
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Aug 6 2011, 07:45)  Last patch changed a lot.
You might want to read the patch notes where I complained how impossible it is to do a High level Item World on BT.
Okay. Still maybe the way i wrote it came out wrong to her, but even right now when I read it, its just me telling her to try to do it on BT cause I honestly believe she could pull it off, yet it comes back to me "acting like I could do it". Honestly can't get my head around it. This post has been edited by rawrboy: Aug 6 2011, 16:49
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Aug 6 2011, 16:50
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buktore
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@ rawrboy I'm kinda suspecting that the reply you have been reading are probably very old... I don't remember there's a mechanic in the game that increase mob's defense at higher difficulty. I kinda want to test it myself but I'm run out of token at the moment... EDIT:: Ninja'd by ichy (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) This post has been edited by buktore: Aug 6 2011, 16:56
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Aug 6 2011, 16:52
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Mi-Ala Starbreeze
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0 1 Initializing Item World (Round 118 / 151) ...
HARD 5/9 pots used Three sparks procced Spirit almost equal to zero Chances of survival are beyond grim BATTELTOADZ HERE I GO!!11
This post has been edited by MiAla: Aug 6 2011, 16:52
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Aug 6 2011, 16:53
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rawrboy
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QUOTE(Rei-Tenshi @ Aug 6 2011, 07:45)  So its wrong for them to make assumptions, but its all OK if you do. Nice.
And read the bolded parts of my previous post. Try practicing what you preach.
How can you compare the act of "judging somebody" being equal to me reading about how people pulled off such achievements which they have and believed it to be real. I don't understand how you see those 2 things being equal. If you do then I'm sorry I guess, but I don't. Well anyways I give up on this, at least I got my post count up, gonna try to get to level 140 before Arena resets >.< This post has been edited by rawrboy: Aug 6 2011, 16:57
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Aug 6 2011, 16:53
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varst
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QUOTE(rawrboy @ Aug 6 2011, 22:49)  Okay. Still maybe the way i wrote it came out wrong to her, but even right now when I read it, its just me telling her to try to do it on BT cause I honestly believe she could pull it off, yet it comes back to me "acting like I could do it". Honestly can't get my head around it.
Personally, for something that I haven't tried and just read through other posts, I would just say' I have read somewhere that you can level your item faster at BT difficulty. Have you tried that?' Instead of 'Just do that in BT' I am sorry for misunderstanding your point. But I really hope this thread can be more accountable for the suggestions given, since those expert (I'm not one of those) have stopped answering here. This post has been edited by varst: Aug 6 2011, 16:56
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Aug 6 2011, 16:55
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Mi-Ala Starbreeze
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122/151 9 9 You have been defeated. Not enough spirit for fifth spark to proc U MAD? FML
But hey, now that I am out of IW I can go to Settings and switch BT!
This post has been edited by MiAla: Aug 6 2011, 16:56
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Aug 6 2011, 16:55
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Ichy
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QUOTE(rawrboy @ Aug 6 2011, 16:49)  Okay. Still maybe the way i wrote it came out wrong to her, but even right now when I read it, its just me telling her to try to do it on BT cause I honestly believe she could pull it off, yet it comes back to me "acting like I could do it". Honestly can't get my head around it.
You should not advise people to do things you have not tested yourself. Long BT IW is impossible right now.
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Aug 6 2011, 17:00
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Zero Angel
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QUOTE(rawrboy @ Aug 6 2011, 08:26)  Just level it up with Battletoad, 2 levels a day sooner or later it'll outlevel you no problem.
So you couldn't seriously see how people would be annoyed by a post like this? Plus the wrong info that you were saying about IWs being easier than Arenas. QUOTE(Ichy @ Aug 6 2011, 22:55)  You should not advise people to do things you have not tested yourself.
This. None of this would have started if you didn't make the first assumption by reading outdated posts.
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Aug 6 2011, 17:01
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varst
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Aug 6 2011, 22:55)  You should not advise people to do things you have not tested yourself.
Long BT IW is impossible right now.
Point to note, why the monsters in BT has almost 50% more hp than in Nintendo? I suppose they only jump by 25% as per what the difficulty implies! x10/x8 = 1.25, right? How on the hell can I complete those legend arenas without wasting tons of infusions? (Hm....I think the facts are clearly stated now by Ichy about long IW BT. Should we stop talking about that here?) This post has been edited by varst: Aug 6 2011, 17:03
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Aug 6 2011, 17:01
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rawrboy
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Aug 6 2011, 07:55)  You should not advise people to do things you have not tested yourself.
Long BT IW is impossible right now.
Yep, won't deny that I was in the wrong when it came to that, but how MiALa retaliates at me cause she think I was being egotistic, I don't know what to say. Over and over she kept posting about how I said this and that. Half the time using sarcasm and putting words into other peoples mouth. I'll just ignore all her post from now on. Yes I take the blame for my misguided post, but I won't take any blame for her being defensive about her ego. I don't know what to say, a helpful person would've just told me that I was wrong and should check the update. I don't understand how somebody can go around and make the assumption that I was trying to brag about how easy BT is. I've added her to ignore and she can do the same, I just think its better this way. @Varst the way you replied and talked to me I was perfectly fine with it. MiAla on the otherhand barely attempted to be civilized, all she did was speak in tongue n cheek and try to belittle me with her sarcasm. This post has been edited by rawrboy: Aug 6 2011, 17:15
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Aug 6 2011, 17:10
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buktore
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QUOTE(varst @ Aug 6 2011, 22:01)  I suppose they only jump by 25% as per what the difficulty implies!
Normal : 0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=7380 (Pirate Bird) LV=204 HP= 2710Hard : 0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=7380 (Pirate Bird) LV=204 HP= 4065 (+50% HP) .... My guess is that some diff setting increase more HP but (if any) less damage, and some diff setting is the opposite.
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Aug 6 2011, 17:15
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MidNightPass
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Personally I have done about 150LV of IW on hard without using too many pots (normal status)
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Aug 6 2011, 17:18
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Zero Angel
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QUOTE(rawrboy @ Aug 6 2011, 23:01)  I don't understand how somebody can go around and make the assumption that I was trying to brag about how easy BT is.
QUOTE(rawrboy @ Aug 6 2011, 08:26)  Just level it up daily with Battletoad, 2 levels a day sooner or later it'll outlevel you no problem.
I bolded the parts where any normal person in here would think that you can do it, no problem. Also consider that when people post advice here, its a given that they've actually tested out what they're posting. It's "Ask the Expert", not "Repeat what an Expert said in another thread". QUOTE(rawrboy @ Aug 6 2011, 21:43)  Not sure If I completely understood your statement. IW is the easiest of the 3 compared to Arena and Grindfest. Arena being hardest since monsters start off at 100%, while IW and Grindfest starts off at 50*.
And I'll just point out that this is false. Arena starts at 100% and STAYS at 100%. IW/GF starts at 50% and increases by 1% every round. I hope you can see now why people are saying that a level 200+ Item is a pain in the ass to level, especially at BT/IWBTH.
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