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a good eth nimble/swiftness/balance. will you gimme? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

true. in my case we'd be speaking about ~450 ADB out of a ~6.5k pool, so something like +7% damage (but does this) even matter when you have 2x IW10 weapons?). and obviously -30 parry points (something like -38% parry).

also, for some reason i can't seem to play as mindlessly with (club + rapier) as with (rapier + waki). comparison isn't exactly fair since we're speaking about a nonIWed, non forged build against a IWed, forged one, but still...

as a former dw player for nimble I prefer a rapier than a waki (I prefer a balance rapier, tho)

a good eth nimble/swiftness/balance. will you gimme? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

i thought more about an Emerald of whatever (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

but check these out:

Legendary Demonic Wakizashi of Balance
IW10 Ethereal Waki offhand
Magnificent Ethereal Wakizashi of Balance
Magnificent Hallowed Wakizashi of Balance
IW10 Hallowed Waki Offhand

[edit]: dang, i just noted that eth part. oh well, check anyways (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

as a former dw player for nimble I prefer a rapier than a waki (I prefer a balance rapier, tho)

hmm... guess i should continue IWing my club then... just wondering, in a club+rapier build Overpower is to avoid as much as possible, but what about Swift? due to the lack of waki Attack Speed is natively lower than rapier+waki build

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Nov 14 2015, 19:46

Scavenger to increase your drop rate (credit drops too).

Credit drop isn't affected by Scavenger.

i thought more about an Emerald of whatever (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

but check these out:

Legendary Demonic Wakizashi of Balance
IW10 Ethereal Waki offhand
Magnificent Ethereal Wakizashi of Balance
Magnificent Hallowed Wakizashi of Balance
IW10 Hallowed Waki Offhand

[edit]: dang, i just noted that eth part. oh well, check anyways (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Your eth offhand is a nice one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

hmm... guess i should continue IWing my club then... just wondering, in a club+rapier build Overpower is to avoid as much as possible, but what about Swift? due to the lack of waki Attack Speed is natively lower than rapier+waki build

why not? swift is good for sure since it boosts AS from shade.

true. in my case we'd be speaking about ~450 ADB out of a ~6.5k pool, so something like +7% damage (but does this) even matter when you have 2x IW10 weapons?). and obviously -30 parry points (something like -38% parry).

also, for some reason i can't seem to play as mindlessly with (club + rapier) as with (rapier + waki). comparison isn't exactly fair since we're speaking about a nonIWed, non forged build against a IWed, forged one, but still...

Oh right because club has no parry, but -38% really (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
At high level with heavily forged gear club rapier should still be able to clear pfu gf reasonably, but rapier waki will be much easier.

Oh right because club has no parry, but -38% really (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
At high level with heavily forged gear club rapier should still be able to clear pfu gf reasonably, but rapier waki will be much easier.

Oh that's true.
I never think of gf cause I never do it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

This post has been edited by arialinnoc: Nov 14 2015, 20:00

Your eth offhand is a nice one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

yup. back when i decided to replace it i wasn't completely sure (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
give me an offer and it may be yours (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

why not? swift is good for sure since it boosts AS from shade.

exactly my thought. this will mean 3/4 useful potencies and less amnesias required then (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Nov 14 2015, 20:05

yup. back when i decided to replace it i wasn't completely sure (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
give me an offer and it may be yours (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

forget it.
I just gave away my old katana a sec ago (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

forget it.
I just gave away my old katana a sec ago (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

another lost chance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

just wondering, how old?

Oh right because club has no parry, but -38% really (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

yup. from 80.0% to 50.6%: -30% on total stats, thus 38% loss if compared to that 80.

but again, i'm comparing IWed/slightly forged gears against non-IWed/non-forged gears, so difference will surely be slower. considering parry/DEX forging and DW bonus, i guess club+rapier may reach 55% or so (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Nov 14 2015, 20:06

another lost chance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

just wondering, how old?
yup. from 80.0% to 50.6%: -30% on total stats, thus 38% loss if compared to that 80.

but again, i'm comparing IWed/slightly forged gears against non-IWed/non-forged gears, so difference will surely be slower. considering parry/DEX forging and DW bonus, i guess club+rapier may reach 55% or so (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

not an antique (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
just a pre 0.82 one.

not an antique (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
just a pre 0.82 one.

uh, alright then

yup. from 80.0% to 50.6%: -30% on total stats, thus 38% loss if compared to that 80.

but again, i'm comparing IWed/slightly forged gears against non-IWed/non-forged gears, so difference will surely be slower. considering parry/DEX forging and DW bonus, i guess club+rapier may reach 55% or so (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Just look at the difference in defense, 80% vs 50% you take 2.5 times more hits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
The more I think about other melee style I just cant think of a reason why I should not play 1h, and you can't even ofc in dw (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Just look at the difference in defense, 80% vs 50% you take 2.5 times more hits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
The more I think about other melee style I just cant think of a reason why I should not play 1h, and you can't even ofc in dw (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

how high your PMI , MMI & crit chance now , void ?

Just look at the difference in defense, 80% vs 50% you take 2.5 times more hits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

yup. sadly Resist is way lower, 'only' at 67%. too bad i cannot raise it too much without losing another SD piece (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

The more I think about other melee style I just cant think of a reason why I should not play 1h, and you can't even ofc in dw (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

but still, DW has nice potential. it's quite funny to see your HP remain the same for 7-8 straight rounds or so and mobs' HP literally vanish when Heartseeker is on (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
i bet that if Tenboro made that you gain +1~2 OC per every parried hit, you may have another style with perma-Spirit Stance

how high your PMI , MMI & crit chance now , void ?

82.4 77.7(maybe) and 50, why?

optimal is club and rapier, you can forgo overpower and get a lot of other potency.

www.nope.com

where!? where!?

Here. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

I think you lose too much dmg from that setup. club rapier is about 25 base adb higher than rapier waki

By that logic, won't Dual Axe of Slaughter combo be the best? They have the highest Base ADB after all. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

but again, i'm comparing IWed/slightly forged gears against non-IWed/non-forged gears, so difference will surely be slower. considering parry/DEX forging and DW bonus, i guess club+rapier may reach 55% or so (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Now think about this: fully Parry forged + Lmax Base Parry Nimble-Rapier + Pmax Base Parry Nimble-Waki. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

you can't even ofc in dw (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

True. DW isn't OFC friendly.

i bet that if Tenboro made that you gain +1~2 OC per every parried hit, you may have another style with perma-Spirit Stance

www.nothapening.com (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

This post has been edited by tetron: Nov 14 2015, 20:59

www.nope.com

huh? So what combo you think is best? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

huh? So what combo you think is best? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

If you face many monsters, additionnal parry may be more valuable than stun on a single target, right? So I guess Rapier of Slaughter + Waki of Nimble may be better.

Question:

huh? So what combo you think is best? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Answer:

If you face many monsters, additionnal parry may be more valuable than stun on a single target, right? So I guess Rapier of Slaughter + Waki of Nimble may be better.

If you only focus on your ADB without taking some defensive measurements, you WILL have trouble in PFUDOR. Also, since the majority of attacks are Physical, and considering even Physical Void attacks can be parried, I'd say the loss of Parry by using Club is vital & fatal.

This post has been edited by tetron: Nov 14 2015, 21:15

If you only focus on your ADB without taking some defensive measurements, you WILL have trouble in PFUDOR. Also, since the majority of attacks are Physical, and considering even Physical Void attacks can be parried, I'd say the loss of Parry by using Club is vital & fatal.

Why mention void before piercing? The two are basically the same for DW/Shade and piercing is much more common.